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Posted by all-nite-freak on Nov-28-2005 21:48:

i will not support Godskitchen and i go to many other clubs, not just Aria.Burned once shame on them...burned twice shame on you.


Posted by Biggy on Nov-28-2005 22:00:

Do you seriously think that Godskitchen Canada is the same guys than in US or in Europe? The guy who bought the rights of Godskitchen is the old rep of DuMaurier in Montreal. A big organization!


Posted by Marcus007 on Nov-28-2005 22:35:

Donald K Donald... wtf does he know about putting on raves? The guy does fkn rock concerts...

Light dude, don't get me wrong, I'm totally there for CELEBRATION and technically it's a Godskitchen event. Now, only after attending celebration will I TRULY know what to think of Godskitchen Canada...


Posted by gorex on Nov-28-2005 23:27:

je lis et �a me fait sourire

antz contre biggy...

dans le style de david contre goliath...

mais un david cach� par son ordinateur qui en plus d'�tre d�savantag� par son apport physique � une visible difficult�e strat�gique ...

naviguant lentement mais surment vers sa propre perte


Posted by antz66 on Nov-28-2005 23:33:

quote:
Originally posted by gorex
je lis et �a me fait sourire

antz contre biggy...

dans le style de david contre goliath...

mais un david cach� par son ordinateur qui en plus d'�tre d�savantag� par son apport physique � une visible difficult�e strat�gique ...

naviguant lentement mais surment vers sa propre perte

that really doesnt explain this @ all maybe u should think b4 u post


Posted by alwayssmiling on Nov-29-2005 00:15:

I also thought that Tiesto played a sick set I loved his housey feel and vibe. He rocked the house! Its too bad that people got asked to leave and the cops were being assholes coming into the club on the biggest night the club has ever had. I also sorry for all the people that got asked to leave im sure that the promoters of the show are working on making arrangements for all those people! Their shows in Toronto rock and they have never missed a beat in Toronto. The problem was simple TIESTO is a Arena DJ now and the crowd that turned up to the show was overwelming for anyone to deal with! I had a great time see you at the next Tiesto party in Montreal!


Posted by all-nite-freak on Nov-29-2005 00:22:

the cops were just doing their job....a promoter who sells tickest for over 3 times the legal capacity is to blame.

antz the only one not thinking here is you...i antz a metaphor for the size of your brain...you are arguing with one of the city's largets promoters.He knows the deal....how many events have you organised and what is your knowledge of the logistics it takes to have a proper event.






















didnt think so


Posted by antz66 on Nov-29-2005 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
the cops were just doing their job....a promoter who sells tickest for over 3 times the legal capacity is to blame.

antz the only one not thinking here is you...i antz a metaphor for the size of your brain...you are arguing with one of the city's largets promoters.He knows the deal....how many events have you organised and what is your knowledge of the logistics it takes to have a proper event.






















didnt think so

ok good point but alot of shit biggy says are lies and no1 here seems to see it. alot of stuff he says about aria is lies and about 514 for example 5500 ppl @ Cream everyone who was there knows it was more like 8000 and stuff like sven vath coming to aria in 2006 no way that is happening or that sander was suppose to play @ aria november 25th and hernan catteneo @ red lite for new years.. yea rite


Posted by KrinKer on Nov-29-2005 00:31:

Is it just me or does every people that liked the show are people that are either

1: People that are new to the board
or
2: People that we have never heard of before
or
3: People from out of town

Another thing, it's the first time that i've heard about a "recours collectif" against a club for a particular night. Doesn't it rign a bell for how bad this night was ?

KrinKer


Posted by all-nite-freak on Nov-29-2005 00:33:

quote:
Originally posted by KrinKer
Is it just me or does every people that liked the show are people that are either

1: People that are new to the board
or
2: People that we have never heard of before
or
3: People from out of town

Another thing, it's the first time that i've heard about a "recours collectif" against a club for a particular night. Doesn't it rign a bell for how bad this night was ?

KrinKer

+1
i cant believe im on the same page as krinker

please flame me as it will help avoid the coming apocalypse


Posted by Twoon on Nov-29-2005 00:39:

Hello everyone, as I have been reading this there are way to many stories and rumors about what actually has happened and what is about to happen, so I just would like to share with you what the truth is since I know both the people that are running Godskitchen and DKD.





First of all, the reason that Godskitchen is coming to Montreal is due to the fact that Montreal is a great town with a great vibe and has opportunities to make money just like anyone else. It just so happens that one of the workers of Godskitchen and the VP of DKD (who is actually one of the pioneers of Gold Club Series) are friends and have decided to team up with a few other industry leaders to work on larger scaled shows across Canada. The fact that Godskitchen can produce the dance side of things and DKD is great at doing rock concerts and other live acts makes it a great combination to produce a larger festival type of event. The have also teamed up with Gillette who specialize in running large scale concerts. Also 514 still is to this day a community pillar in the Montreal dance scene since almost day one and they have produced many great events over the past decade and this merger was clearly beneficial for all involved. They told me their main focus was not to come here and take away from anyone it was to help keep something everyone on the team believes in with such a great town like Montreal and yes to make money, there is no denying that as people do not work for free.

Now about the Tiesto show, from what I have heard form reliable sources is that it was a Gem show and Godskitchen was actually helping the promotions with the show and did not have much to do with the booking or security issues and capacity issues. Obviously when you have the #2 DJ in the world at a club that holds 1000 people in a city that dance is pretty big you are going to have problems. Stick Armin, Sasha, and PVD there it would be the same exact thing a mess. From what I also understand people who did get kicked out are calling and receiving their money back. The fact is yes he should have played at a bigger club but what was done was done.



For all you people that talk shit about Godskitchen you should stop, they have proven worldwide that they can clearly run night clubs, produce larger arena shows and build festivals. They are actually cool guys like the rest of us. Can you blame them for wanting to come to Montreal and make money doing dance events especially since some of the people that just came together are actually friends and is the VP of a concert company? I can guarantee you Celebration will be operated like any other major event that has been held at the Bell Center. I can tell you this, their main focus is to produce a Global Gathering in Montreal and Vancouver this summer with DJ�s and Live acts, it isn�t to come and squeeze as much money out of everyone by bringing Tiesto to Circus and over selling the place, seriously come on. I am sure they are business men and have good work ethics like anyone such as Aria or Stereo and believe in lengthy relationships with the paying customers. Other wise why would have been around for 7 years and have done things in almost every major city worldwide other wise why would people like DKD, BBC1, Playstation, Space, Ice do business with them. They are just a different brand that something you are used to and that�s why all the hate. They actually have been helping the scene in Montreal all these years from over seas by teaching the youth about this culture just like Aria or Bal en Blanc has been doing the same for the scene. For fuck sake�s grow up, this isn�t about hate.



Well this is pretty much the gist of what I know, I am a Godskitchen supporter as I have been to many of their events as well as a supporter of any good party really, so for now take care and whom ever is coming to Celebration I will see you there as it will be a great place to be on New Years Eve.



Here is the flash invite incase you haven�t seen it, it is pretty cool www.godskitchen.com/celebration


Posted by AtomicRooster on Nov-29-2005 00:42:

quote:
Originally posted by antz66
ok good point but alot of shit biggy says are lies and no1 here seems to see it. alot of stuff he says about aria is lies and about 514 for example 5500 ppl @ Cream everyone who was there knows it was more like 8000 and stuff like sven vath coming to aria in 2006 no way that is happening or that sander was suppose to play @ aria november 25th and hernan catteneo @ red lite for new years.. yea rite


dont see why booking sven @ aria is a lie, since he has been at aria many times befor.


Posted by KrinKer on Nov-29-2005 00:42:

quote:
Originally posted by antz66
ok good point but alot of shit biggy says are lies and no1 here seems to see it. alot of stuff he says about aria is lies and about 514 for example 5500 ppl @ Cream everyone who was there knows it was more like 8000 and stuff like sven vath coming to aria in 2006 no way that is happening or that sander was suppose to play @ aria november 25th and hernan catteneo @ red lite for new years.. yea rite


dude

What would you rather have, a club owner that lies, but that actually tries to do something with his club.
or
A club owner that you never hear about, or that you hear only when a big night is coming

Or, if you want it more clear.

What would you rather Have

Aria
or
514 productions

Clearly, Aria had its flaws and clearly the owner don't really address them, but at least he tries to get something going for his club.

514 production is obviously what brought the scene the the "mainstream" in Montreal, but they actually the reason why events have gone down in quality. Before 514 tried to book only big dj's event were something else, it was parties, with drag queens, people who would come to partie in costumes and things like that. and because of 514 it has now become Big dj, Big room, Big lights and people that are in are the one in charge of making the party.

Also, All-nite-freak, you think the same way as i do because for once you actually hd a intelligent thought ! Which, by the way, is a first for you on this board.

KrinKer


Posted by all-nite-freak on Nov-29-2005 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by KrinKer

Also, All-nite-freak, you think the same way as i do because for once you actually hd a intelligent thought ! Which, by the way, is a first for you on this board.

KrinKer


ahhhhhh....all is well now...thanks krinker i thought the end of the world was upon us.


Posted by AtomicRooster on Nov-29-2005 00:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Twoon
Hello everyone, as I have been reading this there are way to many stories and rumors about what actually has happened and what is about to happen, so I just would like to share with you what the truth is since I know both the people that are running Godskitchen and DKD.





First of all, the reason that Godskitchen is coming to Montreal is due to the fact that Montreal is a great town with a great vibe and has opportunities to make money just like anyone else. It just so happens that one of the workers of Godskitchen and the VP of DKD (who is actually one of the pioneers of Gold Club Series) are friends and have decided to team up with a few other industry leaders to work on larger scaled shows across Canada. The fact that Godskitchen can produce the dance side of things and DKD is great at doing rock concerts and other live acts makes it a great combination to produce a larger festival type of event. The have also teamed up with Gillette who specialize in running large scale concerts. Also 514 still is to this day a community pillar in the Montreal dance scene since almost day one and they have produced many great events over the past decade and this merger was clearly beneficial for all involved. They told me their main focus was not to come here and take away from anyone it was to help keep something everyone on the team believes in with such a great town like Montreal and yes to make money, there is no denying that as people do not work for free.

Now about the Tiesto show, from what I have heard form reliable sources is that it was a Gem show and Godskitchen was actually helping the promotions with the show and did not have much to do with the booking or security issues and capacity issues. Obviously when you have the #2 DJ in the world at a club that holds 1000 people in a city that dance is pretty big you are going to have problems. Stick Armin, Sasha, and PVD there it would be the same exact thing a mess. From what I also understand people who did get kicked out are calling and receiving their money back. The fact is yes he should have played at a bigger club but what was done was done.



For all you people that talk shit about Godskitchen you should stop, they have proven worldwide that they can clearly run night clubs, produce larger arena shows and build festivals. They are actually cool guys like the rest of us. Can you blame them for wanting to come to Montreal and make money doing dance events especially since some of the people that just came together are actually friends and is the VP of a concert company? I can guarantee you Celebration will be operated like any other major event that has been held at the Bell Center. I can tell you this, their main focus is to produce a Global Gathering in Montreal and Vancouver this summer with DJ�s and Live acts, it isn�t to come and squeeze as much money out of everyone by bringing Tiesto to Circus and over selling the place, seriously come on. I am sure they are business men and have good work ethics like anyone such as Aria or Stereo and believe in lengthy relationships with the paying customers. Other wise why would have been around for 7 years and have done things in almost every major city worldwide other wise why would people like DKD, BBC1, Playstation, Space, Ice do business with them. They are just a different brand that something you are used to and that�s why all the hate. They actually have been helping the scene in Montreal all these years from over seas by teaching the youth about this culture just like Aria or Bal en Blanc has been doing the same for the scene. For fuck sake�s grow up, this isn�t about hate.



Well this is pretty much the gist of what I know, I am a Godskitchen supporter as I have been to many of their events as well as a supporter of any good party really, so for now take care and whom ever is coming to Celebration I will see you there as it will be a great place to be on New Years Eve.



Here is the flash invite incase you haven�t seen it, it is pretty cool www.godskitchen.com/celebration


im sure they will pull their shit togheter after this, because worst thing for a buisness is its reputation taking a downfall, but still doesnt help that they put their name on this event, have not heard anything from anyone related to Gem events, Circus nightclub, or Godskitchen. Also fact is that people were kicked out, tickets were TOO expensive for 1 dj in a club (this was BEB price) and he didnt even spin his 6 hours.


Posted by antz66 on Nov-29-2005 01:03:

im sure alot of ppl @ circus dont even know it was godskitchen doing the event or even care. i dont think its going to affect too many ppls stance on celebration and for anyone whos thinking of suing circus good luck


Posted by Bertuzz on Nov-29-2005 01:25:

quote:
Originally posted by KrinKer
Is it just me or does every people that liked the show are people that are either

1: People that are new to the board
or
2: People that we have never heard of before
or
3: People from out of town



lol, seriously. You took the words from my mouth (err...keyboard).

tranceaddict in training (joined Nov. 2005):
"BEST NIGHT EVER, OMG I MET MY WIFE CUZ SHE LOOKED AT ME"

tranceaddict in training (joined Oct. 2005):
"TIesto is the shizz, best night of 2005"

junior tranceaddict (Location: Toronto)
"MOntreal is THE party town, tiesto is amazing, this was the best night of my life"

how bout you come back on an actual GOOD night in MOntreal, rather than one that everyone is swearing and cursing about? My theory is that the Toronto people can't read the ravemontreal reviews cuz they're in French, so they don't understand what some of the people had to endure.


Posted by all-nite-freak on Nov-29-2005 01:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Bertuzz
lol, seriously. You took the words from my mouth (err...keyboard).

tranceaddict in training (joined Nov. 2005):
"BEST NIGHT EVER, OMG I MET MY WIFE CUZ SHE LOOKED AT ME"

tranceaddict in training (joined Oct. 2005):
"TIesto is the shizz, best night of 2005"

junior tranceaddict (Location: Toronto)
"MOntreal is THE party town, tiesto is amazing, this was the best night of my life"

how bout you come back on an actual GOOD night in MOntreal, rather than one that everyone is swearing and cursing about? My theory is that the Toronto people can't read the ravemontreal reviews cuz they're in French, so they don't understand what some of the people had to endure.


I think its because some have never experienced the true gold events...those events that are great due to vibe and music, instead of hype hype hype....If i had paid 150$ i would say it was good just to not look like a fool.My friend thinks camo is in so i am going to go out and buy camo!!!!Yeah....le lol.


Posted by Nick on Nov-29-2005 02:03:

Bertuzz,. J'ai lue quelques postes sur ravemontreal and let me tell you I agree with those guys. It happened to me and my friend to.
Those who had the "great-time" were the ones in front and center, untouched by the police. Also for those who claim this "great-time"
4 out of 6 hours isn't getting what we paid for, nor for the DJ to come late, nor the treatment off the security that's including the clubbers who waited for hours.

huggs946 from ravemonteal.com posted a funny cartoon about big DJ's.


Ravemontreal Ti�sto Thread


Posted by gorex on Nov-29-2005 03:26:

Antz do not take my message negatively or personnaly as this was not its intent.
I wrote my precise opinion at that time following my acknowledgement of previous posts with your participation in them.

@krinker
tu peux �tre s�r que les actions l�gales ne se rendront pas plus loin que le remboursement des billets aux achteurs.



je sais pas pourquoi jsuis soudainement contant de geurire une blessure au genou...
jai eu des billets donn�es (dont mes amis ont (h�las pour eux) herit�) j'ai jamais �t� au circus et dans d'autres circonstances ligamentaires c'aurais probablement �t� une premi�re


Posted by dj ugo on Nov-29-2005 05:11:

Je pense que plusieurs d'entre nous manque d'objectivit� dans leurs opinions. Le fait que quelqu'un est nouveau sur le forum ne devrait aucunement pes� dans la balance. �a n'affecte aucunement ses connaissances sur le millieu!! Je suis pas tout � fait nouveau, mais la majorit� d'entre vous ne savent pas qui je suis. Mais une chose est sure, c'est que je suis dans le millieu depuis plus longtemps que bien d'entre vous, peu importe mon anciennet� en tant que Tranceaddict. De plus, je remarques que plusieurs sont incapable d'�tre impartiale, arr�ter de prendre la d�fense de l'un et de l'autre, ils sont assez grand pour se defendre tout seul. Parfois on se croirait dans une classe de maternelle. Je d�saprouve totalement le manque de respect aussi, les insultes c'est pas correcte de la part de ceux qui les utilisent. D�fendez vous avec honneur et amener des points et des faits constructifs et objectifs! Si le Aria etait de la merde, ca ferait longtemps qu'il aurait fermer ses portes, meme choses pour le st�r�o et le circus. C'est trois club, trois facon de penser diff�rente, vous choisissez celui qui vous plait mais arreter d'essayer de me convaincre que l'un est meilleur que l'autre. Question de go�t ou de choix!!


Pour ce qui attrait � la soir�e de Tiesto, moi je me suis grandement amus�, malgr� que je fut d�cu qu'il ai jou� 4h au lieu de 6h. D'autre part, l'organisation laissait � d�sirer, c'est vrai, mais dites vous que p-e ils en tireront une le�on, ou p-e ils y repenseront � 2 fois avant de r�cidiver. L'erreur est humaine, l'incomp�tence aussi, mais il faut savoir etre juste lorsqu'on juge quelque chose dont on ne connais meme pas la moiti� des d�tails. Des: �a l'air, j'ai entendu dire, il y des rumeurs etc. pour moi ca n'a pas ca place dans une discussion comme on a pr�sentement.

Je ne vise personne, j'esp�re juste que ca fera r�fl�chir certain d'entre vous.

respect

Ugo


Posted by LiGHT78 on Nov-29-2005 05:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Nick
Bertuzz,. J'ai lue quelques postes sur ravemontreal and let me tell you I agree with those guys. It happened to me and my friend to.
Those who had the "great-time" were the ones in front and center, untouched by the police. Also for those who claim this "great-time"
4 out of 6 hours isn't getting what we paid for, nor for the DJ to come late, nor the treatment off the security that's including the clubbers who waited for hours.

huggs946 from ravemonteal.com posted a funny cartoon about big DJ's.


Ravemontreal Ti�sto Thread


Can people PLEASE stop posting that cartoon....It's just not funny.


Posted by all-nite-freak on Nov-29-2005 05:23:

quote:
Originally posted by LiGHT78
Can people PLEASE stop posting that cartoon....It's just not funny.

sorry but it is too funny


Posted by Zinger on Nov-29-2005 05:38:

quote:
Originally posted by KrinKer
What would you rather have, a club owner that lies, but that actually tries to do something with his club.
or
A club owner that you never hear about, or that you hear only when a big night is coming

Or, if you want it more clear.

What would you rather Have

Aria
or
514 productions

Clearly, Aria had its flaws and clearly the owner don't really address them, but at least he tries to get something going for his club.

514 production is obviously what brought the scene the the "mainstream" in Montreal, but they actually the reason why events have gone down in quality. Before 514 tried to book only big dj's event were something else, it was parties, with drag queens, people who would come to partie in costumes and things like that. and because of 514 it has now become Big dj, Big room, Big lights and people that are in are the one in charge of making the party.


Good point on Biggy. Try and find another club owner posting on forums filled with clubbers and giving them a heads up on a few things regarding the scene is rare. When i joined TA i was so down to see posts by Biggy & Louis regarding events @ aria and to interact with they're customers the way they do. Thats called building a relationship with your clients. On the other hand, i also know that they're is a bias on this forum for Aria, myself included.

On 514, i have no idea how the scene was before 514, i must have been like 14 before 514 started. All i know is that 514 gave me a lot of memorable nights that i will never forget. They lost their vision and focus, and thats only their fault. I think 514 will always be remembered for the great parties they have thrown in the past, they have definetly helped create that famous vibe in Montreal that out-of-towners, Big DJ's and many others love so much.

As for the Tiesto @ Circus, i think that Circus or Godskitchen or DKD or GEM or whoever the fuck organized the party messed up big time. The fact is, all their names are associated with the event. They all chose to do business together as a team and when u mess up as a team, the whole team gets the heat, not just one player.

The bouncers at Circus were assholes to say the least. Maybe they forgot what type of crowd goes to after hours (usually no violence, friendly peeps). They were ******s when they were kicking people out. The fact remains that Tiesto is very commercial and he will attract people who usually don;t go to these parties that are new to the scene which will lead to huge ticket sales. The party organizers fucked up big time by over selling. Maybe by 50-100 people is fine. Not by 200-300. I hope whatever that guy on ravemontreal is doing to action agaisnt them works. No way to treat people who worked hard for their cash and chose to (over)spend at your club.


Sorry for the crazy long post, i had to give my 2 cents.


Posted by alec on Nov-29-2005 05:45:

quote:
Originally posted by UneeK
i also know that they're is a bias on this forum for Aria, myself included.



There is a bias because anyone that knows the montreal scene knows which club/owners are the best!


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