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Originally posted by kr00t0n ... , mixing things gives various, and often interesting, results

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Originally posted by crackity jones And we should legalize pot and tax the shit out of it. I'm done

i doubt that will ever happen in our life time.

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Originally posted by TCB i doubt that will ever happen in our life time.

Maybe your great grand-children will read this thread someday and feel for your concerns; how you feel right now.

this website has info on drugs and the rave act. and about the corruption in the us. It's really sad that in america it's ok to go to see at rap show, do cocaine all night, and shoot at each other.. but if you go dance, and socialize all night then it's "raving" and evil.

the site is www.knowyourdrugs.com it has a lot of info on it.

interesting thread. I used to be so narrow minded concering drugs but all that changed a year ago when I said fuck it and did E at a Tiesto party. I'm pretty sure my partying life changed, because alcohol just does not cut it. Booze is shite...you act like a moron, you piss a million times, you barf, you feel like crap....yet that's legal? I've done the X what...7 or 8 times now and it's been awesome except for one time in a club that was so packed, I was sweating gallons and felt paranoid after losing my friends. But that's because I was nervous taking it (I don't know why).

Anyway, I even talked to my family doctor about this. He said it should be lumped into the same category as booze, just different. It's not going to kill you as long as it's the real stuff. I trust my source since he does them himself. I am concerned that this will be my thing every night out, but so far I am limiting myself. I've tried the coke, the k, and it's nowhere near as good as E. I'll never touch meth or ghb. I agree about the aggression though....i'm not a violent person in any regard, but while on E, I'd never fight anyone...i'd probably TAKE punches and still smile. The world would be a happier place (at least the partying world) if everyone popped a pill every now and then and smoked a big fatty while coming down. That's another thing....what are these horrible come downs people talk of? I just feel worn out after and maybe a little down, but thoughts of suicide? Um no...never. I just want to talk and dance, hug everybody, etc. Western governments, especially the USA, just dont' get it.

Just last weekend I tried 100% pure MDMA in a white capusle...now that was intense...a little too intense actually. It's my understanding that regular E is about 40% mdma and the rest is cut with speed and other stuff like caffiene which gives you the energy and prevents tiredness. People should just be responsible with it...sure, have a few beers, but once you pop that ******, cut the booze off and sip some water every hour and take breaks from dancing. Unless you have a heart or liver condition, you're not going to die. The media really needs to stop sensationalising E in my opinion.

Anyway, it's opened up my eyes on having a good night out. I can't see myself ever getting retared on alcohol again like that. And it's way cheaper too.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 interesting thread. I used to be so narrow minded concering drugs but all that changed a year ago when I said fuck it and did E at a Tiesto party. I'm pretty sure my partying life changed, because alcohol just does not cut it. Booze is shite...you act like a moron, you piss a million times, you barf, you feel like crap....yet that's legal? I've done the X what...7 or 8 times now and it's been awesome except for one time in a club that was so packed, I was sweating gallons and felt paranoid after losing my friends. But that's because I was nervous taking it (I don't know why). Anyway, I even talked to my family doctor about this. He said it should be lumped into the same category as booze, just different. It's not going to kill you as long as it's the real stuff. I trust my source since he does them himself. I am concerned that this will be my thing every night out, but so far I am limiting myself. I've tried the coke, the k, and it's nowhere near as good as E. I'll never touch meth or ghb. I agree about the aggression though....i'm not a violent person in any regard, but while on E, I'd never fight anyone...i'd probably TAKE punches and still smile. The world would be a happier place (at least the partying world) if everyone popped a pill every now and then and smoked a big fatty while coming down. That's another thing....what are these horrible come downs people talk of? I just feel worn out after and maybe a little down, but thoughts of suicide? Um no...never. I just want to talk and dance, hug everybody, etc. Western governments, especially the USA, just dont' get it. Just last weekend I tried 100% pure MDMA in a white capusle...now that was intense...a little too intense actually. It's my understanding that regular E is about 40% mdma and the rest is cut with speed and other stuff like caffiene which gives you the energy and prevents tiredness. People should just be responsible with it...sure, have a few beers, but once you pop that ******, cut the booze off and sip some water every hour and take breaks from dancing. Unless you have a heart or liver condition, you're not going to die. The media really needs to stop sensationalising E in my opinion. Anyway, it's opened up my eyes on having a good night out. I can't see myself ever getting retared on alcohol again like that. And it's way cheaper too.

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loved reading ur post Dj Smitty20
100%mdma....it's been a long time i havent seen one of these (

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 interesting thread. I used to be so narrow minded concering drugs but all that changed a year ago when I said fuck it and did E at a Tiesto party. I'm pretty sure my partying life changed, because alcohol just does not cut it. Booze is shite...you act like a moron, you piss a million times, you barf, you feel like crap....yet that's legal? I've done the X what...7 or 8 times now and it's been awesome except for one time in a club that was so packed, I was sweating gallons and felt paranoid after losing my friends. But that's because I was nervous taking it (I don't know why). Anyway, I even talked to my family doctor about this. He said it should be lumped into the same category as booze, just different. It's not going to kill you as long as it's the real stuff. I trust my source since he does them himself. I am concerned that this will be my thing every night out, but so far I am limiting myself. I've tried the coke, the k, and it's nowhere near as good as E. I'll never touch meth or ghb. I agree about the aggression though....i'm not a violent person in any regard, but while on E, I'd never fight anyone...i'd probably TAKE punches and still smile. The world would be a happier place (at least the partying world) if everyone popped a pill every now and then and smoked a big fatty while coming down. That's another thing....what are these horrible come downs people talk of? I just feel worn out after and maybe a little down, but thoughts of suicide? Um no...never. I just want to talk and dance, hug everybody, etc. Western governments, especially the USA, just dont' get it. Just last weekend I tried 100% pure MDMA in a white capusle...now that was intense...a little too intense actually. It's my understanding that regular E is about 40% mdma and the rest is cut with speed and other stuff like caffiene which gives you the energy and prevents tiredness. People should just be responsible with it...sure, have a few beers, but once you pop that ******, cut the booze off and sip some water every hour and take breaks from dancing. Unless you have a heart or liver condition, you're not going to die. The media really needs to stop sensationalising E in my opinion. Anyway, it's opened up my eyes on having a good night out. I can't see myself ever getting retared on alcohol again like that. And it's way cheaper too.

it's pretty naive to think e wont hurt you as bad as alcohol in the long run. actually to make sure your bodys serotonin levels wont be permanantely hurt youre supposed (there are alot of studies about this, visit google) to wait up to three month between your intake of e, mda or mdma. after these three month the levels should be back at 99% or something close to it. doing e every night out not only defeats its purpose but will also literally fuck you up. The paranoia you experienced could easily happen out of the blue and stay with you for a long time. Believe you me, ive been there. That said e is imo shit. Why? because you dont frickin know whats in those little blue, red, pink etc pills. There have been batches with heroin, k, and the usual speed and every other shit dirty substance you can imagine.

MDMA on the other hand... is all good baby

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Originally posted by allen ok guys... any one familiar with ways to over come the comedowns other than thc ofcorse?

ever heard of xanax or ambien? if not id suggest you look them up.

303 my friend, E = mdma A good clean pill consists only of mdma (xtc) + binding substances. And as for batches with heroin or other crap, those are very very rare, specially in Holland where you are!

And as to not knowing whats in your pills, you live in Holland damn it! You can have your pills lab-tested

For other ways to test pills on containing MDxx, ketamine, amphetamines, etc. there is the EZ-Test (Marquis reagent) or the more completer one with Mandelin, Mecke, Robadope, Simons solutions (www.eztest.com) You could also check your pills on a site like www.pillreports.com Of course this is not 100% reliable (there have been 100's of different types of mitsubishi's in all colours, contents and shapes) but quite often it does give a good indication as to what type of pill you have I've heard

Nice post btw Dj Smitty20

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Originally posted by Synthesia 303 my friend, E = mdma A good clean pill consists only of mdma (xtc) + binding substances. And as for batches with heroin or other crap, those are very very rare, specially in Holland where you are! And as to not knowing whats in your pills, you live in Holland damn it! You can have your pills lab-tested For other ways to test pills on containing MDxx, ketamine, amphetamines, etc. there is the EZ-Test (Marquis reagent) or the more completer one with Mandelin, Mecke, Robadope, Simons solutions (www.eztest.com) You could also check your pills on a site like www.pillreports.com Of course this is not 100% reliable (there have been 100's of different types of mitsubishi's in all colours, contents and shapes) but quite often it does give a good indication as to what type of pill you have I've heard Nice post btw Dj Smitty20

idd, mdma is the "active substance", lets call it that for simple reason. to this day tho, i havent come by one pill consisting of only mdma and ive been doing this stuff for some 10 years now.
my post wasnt about that tho. what i dont like about e is the simple fact that it isnt PURE 100% MDMA.
its just as you said also binding substances and this is important! other less pure substances ie k, and amphetamines. True the heroin batches are uncommon and the word spreads pretty rapidly when its known.

Thing is i want to do pure stuff. Its simple as that. Just as i want to do PURE kush or cannabis, i never use tobacco if i roll the spliff myself. Sometimes tho, you know, youre not the one with the stash hehe..

I am pretty much automatic.

Lights, Camera, DANCE

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Originally posted by 303 idd, mdma is the "active substance", lets call it that for simple reason. to this day tho, i havent come by one pill consisting of only mdma and ive been doing this stuff for some 10 years now. my post wasnt about that tho. what i dont like about e is the simple fact that it isnt PURE 100% MDMA. its just as you said also binding substances and this is important! other less pure substances ie k, and amphetamines. True the heroin batches are uncommon and the word spreads pretty rapidly when its known. Thing is i want to do pure stuff. Its simple as that. Just as i want to do PURE kush or cannabis, i never use tobacco if i roll the spliff myself. Sometimes tho, you know, youre not the one with the stash hehe..

but man, I don't think E ever WAS 100% pure MDMA...that's the whole point. Pure MDMA is a much different, and very intense, buzz. For the first two hours, I didn't want to dance....I had to get the fuck out of the bar, sit in the car with my buddy and deal with each wave of goodness with a lot of concentration. It is not a dancing drug...but every time I've taken a regular E, I dance like a maniac without any inhibitions...I'm very talkative and I just feel so good dammit. Regular E's come in coloured tablets...pure MDMA is almost always in a whiteish capsule. From what i've seen, done and heard, there is a major difference in the dose and the high. I've only done the pure shit once, and while it was good, it was just way too much for me to be in a packed club with all kinds of people. In my opinion, it's something to on occasion with your buddies at home and laugh the night away. it also made me feel extremely tired the last few days (I dropped it Saturday night).

I also asked my doctor about the long term effects of E on memory/depression, etc. He said it's still all speculation at this point and he reads the latest journals, being a very liberal minded person and open to this stuff. He said the biggest problem is not knowing what you are getting with each batch since its illegal. Recently, Canada has had some problems with E dealers mixing meth in their supply to make more money because of its addictive qualities. I know, that with my source, this is NOT a problem. I am getting the real deal.

Simply put, however, I have a major problem with people (and I used to be one of them not too long ago) who sit there and get all righteous about drugs, yet they're the first ones to get totally bombed on alcohol, smoke 20 ciggies in a night or get in on a joint. Obviously, there is a separation between things like heroin, crack, crystal meth...those IMO are very serious drugs. But I know a lot of people who are regular users of E and it has not run their lives into the ground.

To the above poster...

I think your statements are a bit ridiculous. Ok, you trust your dealer, because he does the pills too? Have you ever seen him take one? How do you know he doesn't do other hard drugs?

You bash drugs like methamphetamines, yet MDMA is A-OK? Buddy, X and meth are VERY SIMILAR CHEMICALLY. MDMA = MethyldioxlMETHAMPETAMINE!! AKA just another type of meth.

If you thought pure MDMA was too intense, you took too much, period. A proper dose is 1/10 gram but I highly doubt you even took the time to weigh it out... did you?

You've done X 7 or 8 times, you are a noob as far as I'm concerned. I had the EXACT same additude you have right now. I had no comedowns, and strait up, I loved X.

Then my buddy got thrown in the hospital when the cops busted a party we were at, the only chemical in his blood was PURE METH. We "trust" our dealer too, lol.

I've seen X take over so many kids. I know a kid who is STUPID because he's dropped over 400 times. I'm talking 3+ pills each time. He CANNOT release seratonin naturally anymore, he HAS to pop pills.

Just wait, you'll get addicted, just like everyone does. There is no easy road to drug use. PERIOD. It happened to me, and it WILL happen to you. I highly highly doubt you can control a drug like X. It's just too good. It is that damn good, that it will control you. Just wait until you pop your 2nd pill in a night, and then a 3rd, and soon enough its 6 AM and you're brain feels like mush and you want to cry.

I'm just looking out for you, I really am. I've done every drug in the book, K, X (20), MDMA (10), meth (10), acid, ETC.

Please, please, reconsider the additude you have towards X. It is incredibly dangerous, and therefor, incredibly awesome at the same time.

To conclude, USE SPARINGLY!!!!!! Every 3 months is a perfect number as posted above. Recognize your addiction when it happens, and take drastic measures to control it. BE CAREFUL! I would hate to see a dead TA, so I felt it was my duty to type this.

Dance for life.

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Originally posted by epdarks To the above poster... I think your statements are a bit ridiculous. Ok, you trust your dealer, because he does the pills too? Have you ever seen him take one? How do you know he doesn't do other hard drugs? You bash drugs like methamphetamines, yet MDMA is A-OK? Buddy, X and meth are VERY SIMILAR CHEMICALLY. MDMA = MethyldioxlMETHAMPETAMINE!! AKA just another type of meth. If you thought pure MDMA was too intense, you took too much, period. A proper dose is 1/10 gram but I highly doubt you even took the time to weigh it out... did you? You've done X 7 or 8 times, you are a noob as far as I'm concerned. I had the EXACT same additude you have right now. I had no comedowns, and strait up, I loved X. Then my buddy got thrown in the hospital when the cops busted a party we were at, the only chemical in his blood was PURE METH. We "trust" our dealer too, lol. I've seen X take over so many kids. I know a kid who is STUPID because he's dropped over 400 times. I'm talking 3+ pills each time. He CANNOT release seratonin naturally anymore, he HAS to pop pills. Just wait, you'll get addicted, just like everyone does. There is no easy road to drug use. PERIOD. It happened to me, and it WILL happen to you. I highly highly doubt you can control a drug like X. It's just too good. It is that damn good, that it will control you. Just wait until you pop your 2nd pill in a night, and then a 3rd, and soon enough its 6 AM and you're brain feels like mush and you want to cry. I'm just looking out for you, I really am. I've done every drug in the book, K, X (20), MDMA (10), meth (10), acid, ETC. Please, please, reconsider the additude you have towards X. It is incredibly dangerous, and therefor, incredibly awesome at the same time. To conclude, USE SPARINGLY!!!!!! Every 3 months is a perfect number as posted above. Recognize your addiction when it happens, and take drastic measures to control it. BE CAREFUL! I would hate to see a dead TA, so I felt it was my duty to type this. Dance for life.

Ok, well thanks for the concern. He's not really my "dealer"....he's my friend and has been for many years. I would trust him with my life. I have seen him use them, back when I wasn't into it. Anyway, my own doctor said there is a huge difference between E and Crystal Meth...being that E can potentially be addictive, whereas meth IS addictive. I've watched a few documentaries on it too through www.cbc.ca Anyway listen man...I am not a heavy drug user and never will be. Just tonight I told my friends I wasn't going out. In the next few weeks, I won't be able to go out since I'm an A student and have too much shit to do. I DO space it out. I partied quite a bit the last month (did E 3 times, pure MDMA once) but that's because school was out. Now that I'm back, I don't have the same opportunities to do this stuff. Lots of people experiement and I guess I'm in that phase now.

By my own admission, I still am a Noob, but I know I can cut myself off and if I didnt, I would get help. Yes, it is a great drug, but I think you're giving it too much credit honestly. If it ever came to the time when I needed to do more than one pill a night, that would be it for me. Also, I'm 24....I really don't think I'm going to be partying like this when I'm 30. I have friends who are into the coke big time, personally I stay away from it. When my doctor says it's better to do E rather than coke or anything else that's illegal, you have to at least respect that right?

I appreciate the concern.....maybe I was being too enthusiastic. I do love it but it has not taken control over my life and never will. I'm too strong a person to let it, to be frank. I have no idea the next time I"ll be doing it as I don't plan to party big for at least a month.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 [...] When my doctor says it's better to do E rather than coke or anything else that's illegal, you have to at least respect that right? [...]

I dont like that statement at all. Aamof, id say that is probably the most stupid thing ive ever heard a "doctor" say.

About your MDMA experience, just as epdarks said, you clearly took too much of it.
Also, you doubtely thought MDMA was a drug to "dance on", but rather

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In my opinion, it's something to on occasion with your buddies at home and laugh the night away.

.. to be frank, when you do e or mdma "at home" i think youve kind of "crossed a border". Im sure it could be cool and all that, but.. imo it doesnt belong in that enviroment. This is of course highly subjective.
Next (?) time you do MDMA, maybe you would want to get it in powder form and mix that with juice or lemonade or soda. You might find that an easier way to control the intake. Just a thought.

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Originally posted by 303 (...) to be frank, when you do e or mdma "at home" i think youve kind of "crossed a border". Im sure it could be cool and all that, but.. imo it doesnt belong in that enviroment. This is of course highly subjective. (...)

hope i didnt misunderstood u buddy...but private parties , between friends are the best way-to start with- to really understand E..
dnt you think so?

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Originally posted by 303 I dont like that statement at all. Aamof, id say that is probably the most stupid thing ive ever heard a "doctor" say. About your MDMA experience, just as epdarks said, you clearly took too much of it. Also, you doubtely thought MDMA was a drug to "dance on", but rather .. to be frank, when you do e or mdma "at home" i think youve kind of "crossed a border". Im sure it could be cool and all that, but.. imo it doesnt belong in that enviroment. This is of course highly subjective. Next (?) time you do MDMA, maybe you would want to get it in powder form and mix that with juice or lemonade or soda. You might find that an easier way to control the intake. Just a thought.

obviously he was not praising it. No doctor ever would. But he's a younger guy and he knows what really goes on with younger people. Anyway, he said there is always the danger that E and other stimulants, such as cocaine and crystal meth, will cause cardiac arthymia and/or arrest and failure. And again, because you never know you can be 100% sure what you're getting, it could be mixed with other harmful things. But, and this is a DOCTOR talking remember, he said that there is little risk that a REAL E tablet will kill you in the short term and that the long term effects are still only speculation. There have been hints and small studies about memory loss, but it is not universal opinion among the medical community that moderate use of E fucks up your brain beyond repair. Hasn't anybody smoked a lot of dope in a short term and felt that you couldn't remember shit? He also told me, and I think there is some truth in this, that taking one E tablet on a night, as compared to people who binge drink 20 beers is still very similar. Both are extremely harmful to your body if used incorrectly.

Is there really any difference between the idiot who goes out every weekend, gets so fucking drunk on alcohol and can't remember anything the next day as opposed to the moron who does a gram of coke in a night or the reckless asshole who takes an E tab every once in awhile? I say take your pick. I know what works for me, but I find it odd that some of you guys who don't even know me are hinting that I have or will have a problem. I don't ever plan on ingesting 500 E pills in my life. I doubt I'll ever even come close to 100. And if I do, is it going to damage my brain beyond repair? Show me some hard evidence, not just heresay.

About the pure MDMA though....it was 90mg capsule. That's the typical size of pills is it not, or at least in that range? All I'm saying that for me, personally, it was too intense to be in a hot, packed club. Drugs are different for everybody....my buddy took half an E and felt absolutely nothing...another one of my friends drinks like a moron, another just does coke....other friends do nothing and still have a good time. What works for one does not work for another.

smitty when did you become such a proponent of pill-munching

a) most pills don't contain mdma, but a similar styled chem such as mda/mdea (which are subsequently easier and cheaper to make.

2. MDMA IS the dancey dancey, unless you get a pill with a high standard amphetemine content (speed), MDMA will make you more hyper/energetic as the mda/mdea styled stuff is more mongy, chew your face off in a corner, dibbling inanely.

iii. If you are one of the lucky one's (I am), you might not get comedowns, but I only ever see this in people who are naturally happy and well centred with who they are. If you arent, then this is just the honeymoon, so enjoy it while it lasts.

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Originally posted by kr00t0n a) most pills don't contain mdma, but a similar styled chem such as mda/mdea (which are subsequently easier and cheaper to make. 2. MDMA IS the dancey dancey, unless you get a pill with a high standard amphetemine content (speed), MDMA will make you more hyper/energetic as the mda/mdea styled stuff is more mongy, chew your face off in a corner, dibbling inanely. iii. If you are one of the lucky one's (I am), you might not get comedowns, but I only ever see this in people who are naturally happy and well centred with who they are. If you arent, then this is just the honeymoon, so enjoy it while it lasts.

yes I've heard that before but again, the people I get it off are pretty high rollers. I'm not saying it's the "best shit around" like I"ve heard so many times, but I live in a city with 300,000 people and I probably get the best batch in town. I'm fairly positive I am getting the real thing because it's always been a 2-4 hour high, feeling really good and just loving the music.

And in regard to your third point, I honestly do not get "bad" come downs where I have horrible thoughts. I know I"m still a novice, but my brother, for example, has dropped 4 times and crashes like a bi polar mofo every time....just so miserable. Me? I'm just tired and lethargic, but not actually depressed. I am a pretty content person and definitely confident with who I am mentally, even though I'm at a crossroads in life and am stressing out about my next phase. I guess we'll see how the comedowns are after awhile. If they're really bad, I will probably just cut it off completely.

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Originally posted by orl hope i didnt misunderstood u buddy...but private parties , between friends are the best way-to start with- to really understand E.. dnt you think so?

i think, to some extent that for a first time user it might be a good idea, as with any other drug really, to see what kind of affect it will have on you. However i myself prefer doing coke when i am at "private parties" as i think doing e or mdma is a bit ott for such events.

Dj Smitty20,
Im not saying you will or are having problems. What i think most people agrees on however is the fact that e or mdma is by no means better than any other drug, which i kind of got the intention youre doctor was claiming.

and for the nasty afterburns etc, my experience clearly tells me the purer substance you drop the less you will suffer from any kind of issues, whether it be depression, paranoia or any other kind.

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Originally posted by 303 and for the nasty afterburns etc, my experience clearly tells me the purer substance you drop the less you will suffer from any kind of issues, whether it be depression, paranoia or any other kind.

To a degree yes, but comedowns come in various shape and sizes based on their causes.

The very nature of how MDMA works means that a person would be left lacking in a chemical that is associated with happiness and keeping your moods balanced.

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Originally posted by 303 However i myself prefer doing coke when i am at "private parties" as i think doing e or mdma is a bit ott for such events. (...)

hehe , have to agree, but we're not talking about the same parties

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Originally posted by 303 i think, to some extent that for a first time user it might be a good idea, as with any other drug really, to see what kind of affect it will have on you. However i myself prefer doing coke when i am at "private parties" as i think doing e or mdma is a bit ott for such events. Dj Smitty20, Im not saying you will or are having problems. What i think most people agrees on however is the fact that e or mdma is by no means better than any other drug, which i kind of got the intention youre doctor was claiming. and for the nasty afterburns etc, my experience clearly tells me the purer substance you drop the less you will suffer from any kind of issues, whether it be depression, paranoia or any other kind.

No no, he was not praising it. But he was pretty clear that as a stimulant in its real form, it's a safer bet than doing a lot of speed or coke or meth, etc. He did say that there are issues with withdrawal but any drug does that, including alcohol and ciggies. I know how I feel on it and I know that as long as I'm getting the right stuff, I"m not going to have a heart attack...my heart does not pound like crazy as it does when I do coke and get all nervous/anxious. That's why I prefer to do E because I know that it's going to be a good time.

I do have a question though....seems like you guys are experienced enough and my doctor said he couldn't answer the question because not enough long term studies have been conducted. How much E is too much? 50 pills over a few years...50 pills in a year? Dropping every weekend....every month? I'd say that on average, I'm in the once every month or two range and I'll keep it at that.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 [...] How much E is too much? 50 pills over a few years...50 pills in a year? Dropping every weekend....every month? I'd say that on average, I'm in the once every month or two range and I'll keep it at that.

dropping every weekend is suicidal...actually u'll soon realise that the substance has lost it's magical effects,thus u tend to stop, or maybe take a break-which usually is quite extended in time-; in both cases, it will only do u good..

i reckon 1/month is a wise intake, if u really stick to it ...u are quite tempted to disrespect this if there's a nice event or a nice Dj at the door ....been there, done that :P
further more , an undeniable fact is each person tolerence toward the substance(s)...."serious" and experienced E adepts tend to be more aware of the way to respect and preserve the balance...therefore i personnaly think that there's no "universal posologie"..however , statistics and average scales can be quite useful

i wonder if it's the frequency of poping that counts-in terms of potential side effects- rather than the number of poped pills/night..like for ex: if u pop 1pill/month , for 3 months v/s u've been clean for 3 moths and u pop 3 or 4 eccies in one night ...
thoughts?

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