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Posted by JM on May-25-2006 03:38:

whoa this IS exciting!!!

>JM<


Posted by clubamerica on May-25-2006 03:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
You can be as dissolusioned as you want but you don't have to be an ass to the people who still like the stuff. Too many people on this site act like musical missionaries trying to make others feel bad for enjoying the stuff that they like. There are ways to plug the stuff that you enjoy without being a jerk to people who like different stuff, a simple "I find this music too formulaic and not unique enough for my liking, and would rather listen to XXXXX" would be enough.

It is quite understandable to branch out to different styles of music, people do it all the time, but most of them don't feel the need to preach about it to others via web forums and proclaim that their newly found taste makes them more mature and part of a superior class of EDM fan.

We all go through this, we hear the same shit day after day then get online or go to some obscure venue in hopes of finding something different and exciting, is it really such a problem that people find armin different and exciting compared to what they were previously exposed to? If you get bored of it you can branch out to something different but why be such a party pooper to all those that you leave behind?

There is plenty of great 2006 music, I lost a giant heap of it in a hard drive failure last month . I agree that it isn't coming out of ASOT and that armin's camp is getting really poppy and unexciting, but you can't force kids to stop enjoying things if they like them. I guess we are falling into this trap that makes us think all people who like armin are being sheep and we just can't accept the fact that a bunch of people genuinely prefer his music.
9 out of 10 dentists would agree!!!


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on May-25-2006 06:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
I retract my earlier statement, this now qualifies as the biggest amount of bullshit i've read this week. You're taking the idea that anybody who doesn't like armin (or tiesto has been brought up here) doesn't because they're elitist, not because they actually just don't like the current sounds they're playing. It's thoughts like that that allow the 'elitists' the chance to look down on people like you & laugh, because it has nothing to do with it at all. I don't care who makes or plays a track, if it's good it's good, but if it's not, that doesn't make me any less of a listener. If all of us who don't like the crap coming out from AvB etc now are elitists, then god help us all.


+1


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on May-25-2006 06:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
There were trash tracks than, there are trash tracks now; but you will pick the best tune from 1993 and compare it from worst tune in 2006; and than say 1993 was better.

Noone can make new quality track every week, neither Armin; nor Tiesto or any DJ from 1993. And dont tell me year 1993 had more trance releases than 2006, and year 1993 had more number of 'good tracks' releases than year 2006.

And you are very arrogant to make a statement like 'I would pick ANY Art of Trance track'. What you mean ANY? Like he was a GOD; 100% of his works are jems. Not even a single track which is not off the mark? All of them better than Tiesto and Armin combined? Looks like ex-DJ worshipper to me.


+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

absolutely agree


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on May-25-2006 07:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
How can you say there are not people doing that today? How can you say that what dosent catch your attention; is pretty much shit for everyone else? Isnt this elitism?


Yeah, f.e. I spend pretty much every month on buying vinyls, because i love the tracks. It�s so individual and subjective! Noone can judge if this era of trance is worse than the one in 1993 and vice versa. It�s different but that does NOT mean worse or better.


Posted by Purple on May-25-2006 08:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Eagle`
This thread is so negative, plz delete it


Stay out of this thread kid, you may hurt yourself.


Posted by noikeee on May-25-2006 08:20:

quote:
Originally posted by paulandrews
Yeah, f.e. I spend pretty much every month on buying vinyls, because i love the tracks. It�s so individual and subjective! Noone can judge if this era of trance is worse than the one in 1993 and vice versa. It�s different but that does NOT mean worse or better.


An analogy would be saying "noone can judge if Britney Spears is worse than Mozart".

Of course, music taste is always something highly subjective, but I'm perfectly entitled to my opinion that 1993 trance is 10 times better than current trance, thank you.

UnWorldly: i agree that it's pointless to be a music missionaire, and i don't think anyone questions that the Armin fanboys listen to him because they genuinely like him. At a point he used to be my favourite dj, i know why they like him!

But the way some of them get all mega-defensive at any criticism is hilarious. Hey, they're claiming we all secretly listen to ASOT and just pretend we don't like it cause of jealously! I think we're perfectly entitled to make fun of them when things reach that point.


Posted by LittleGoku on May-25-2006 08:27:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
An analogy would be saying "noone can judge if Britney Spears is worse than Mozart".

Of course, music taste is always something highly subjective, but I'm perfectly entitled to my opinion that 1993 trance is 10 times better than current trance, thank you.



im still wondering which track from this year stands taller than the "older" Li Kwan-Point Zero...produced in 1993...but hey thats my opinion

+1 for 1993


Posted by RebeL9 on May-25-2006 08:58:

quote:
Originally posted by LittleGoku
im still wondering which track from this year stands taller than the "older" Li Kwan-Point Zero...produced in 1993...but hey thats my opinion

+1 for 1993


ironicly enough that is Armins all time favourite tune.


Posted by trancedanne on May-25-2006 09:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
You can be as dissolusioned as you want but you don't have to be an ass to the people who still like the stuff. Too many people on this site act like musical missionaries trying to make others feel bad for enjoying the stuff that they like. There are ways to plug the stuff that you enjoy without being a jerk to people who like different stuff, a simple "I find this music too formulaic and not unique enough for my liking, and would rather listen to XXXXX" would be enough.

It is quite understandable to branch out to different styles of music, people do it all the time, but most of them don't feel the need to preach about it to others via web forums and proclaim that their newly found taste makes them more mature and part of a superior class of EDM fan.

We all go through this, we hear the same shit day after day then get online or go to some obscure venue in hopes of finding something different and exciting, is it really such a problem that people find armin different and exciting compared to what they were previously exposed to? If you get bored of it you can branch out to something different but why be such a party pooper to all those that you leave behind?

There is plenty of great 2006 music, I lost a giant heap of it in a hard drive failure last month . I agree that it isn't coming out of ASOT and that armin's camp is getting really poppy and unexciting, but you can't force kids to stop enjoying things if they like them. I guess we are falling into this trap that makes us think all people who like armin are being sheep and we just can't accept the fact that a bunch of people genuinely prefer his music.


you said it all


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on May-25-2006 09:46:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0 Of course, music taste is always something highly subjective, but I'm perfectly entitled to my opinion that 1993 trance is 10 times better than current trance, thank you.


Of course, it�s only an opinion. So if someone more or less directly presents this opinion (very often in a negative and unconstructive way) in almost every thread, it�s really annoying. Like UnWordly said, those people think they can play some messiah-role or something..


Posted by LittleGoku on May-25-2006 09:52:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
ironicly enough that is Armins all time favourite tune.


no kidding!

hahahaha hilarious!
maybe the they will dig it up and listen to some real tuneage, now that they know its armins favorite tune of all time (1993)


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on May-25-2006 09:52:

quote:
Originally posted by LittleGoku
im still wondering which track from this year stands taller than the "older" Li Kwan-Point Zero...produced in 1993...but hey thats my opinion

+1 for 1993


noone can answer your "question" cause it�s your opinion. you said that. someone else would say another track, someone would agree with you that�s life. but now this is a bit far from the origin of this debate.


Posted by LittleGoku on May-25-2006 09:55:

quote:
Originally posted by paulandrews
noone can answer your "question" cause it�s your opinion. you said that. someone else would say another track, someone would agree with you that�s life. but now this is a bit far from the origin of this debate.

obviously we are here, discussing a growing conflict arising with ASOT. This is the state of trance.


Posted by Purple on May-25-2006 11:11:

quote:
Originally posted by LittleGoku
im still wondering which track from this year stands taller than the "older" Li Kwan-Point Zero...produced in 1993...but hey thats my opinion

+1 for 1993


Its ok you like Li Kwan-Point and other stuff from 1993. Keep playing them over and over again for as long as you want, till year 2016 if you like. Go ahead and make Appreciation threads for them if you want and post nice stuffs, pics and love hearts in it.

But the point I want to make is, dont jump in into any other thread with Armin, Tiesto name on it and start bashing other people for not liking Li from 1993 and make a fool out of yourself in the process.


Posted by LittleGoku on May-25-2006 11:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
Its ok you like Li Kwan-Point and other stuff from 1993. Keep playing them over and over again for as long as you want, till year 2016 if you like. Go ahead and make Appreciation threads for them if you want and post nice stuffs, pics and love hearts in it.

But the point I want to make is, dont jump in into any other thread with Armin, Tiesto name on it and start bashing other people for not liking Li from 1993 and make a fool out of yourself in the process.


this is a music discussion thread open to both people who like ASOT and those who dont like ASOT

quote:
Originally posted by Purple

OMG OMG I am so exited!!

pg1.


Make a fool of myself eh? ummm by the way its spelled "excited"


Posted by Purple on May-25-2006 11:26:

quote:
Originally posted by LittleGoku


pg1.


Make a fool of myself eh? by the way its spelled "excited"


Ok you pinned me down their. I spelled excited wrong.

My post was not personally directed towards you, you never did, but a lot of other people jumping around with 'thick brain skulls' did.


Posted by trancedanne on May-25-2006 11:28:

i guess the asot haters will cry tonight when they see how many that will listen to asot 250


Posted by Ian on May-25-2006 11:37:

quote:
Originally posted by trancedanne
i guess the asot haters will cry tonight when they see how many that will listen to asot 250


No, we'll just do what we do each week, listen to whatever we want to, and not be surrounded by fanboys. You make it sound like we actually care that people like ASOT, we don't, it's their perogative to do so, but it's ours to listen to sounds that we find fulfilling ourselves.


Posted by trancedanne on May-25-2006 11:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
No, we'll just do what we do each week, listen to whatever we want to, and not be surrounded by fanboys. You make it sound like we actually care that people like ASOT, we don't, it's their perogative to do so, but it's ours to listen to sounds that we find fulfilling ourselves.


if you would not care if we listen to asot or not you would not have posted in this topic, there are 100 of other new topics here but this is the one which got flamed, yeah i wonder why


Posted by Ian on May-25-2006 11:45:

quote:
Originally posted by trancedanne
if you would not care if we listen to asot or not you would not have posted in this topic, there are 100 of other new topics here but this is the one which got flamed, yeah i wonder why


Actually my first post here was to somebody who gave a very biased pro-bigname dj opinion, which I responded to. The problem is that the moment any of the people who're known to have different tastes post, they're labelled haters, even if their replies are to reply to ignorant comments like those I first replied to from starboy.

Carrying on from this, I saw a point wrong from paulandrews who has since corrected what he was saying, it looked wrong, so I proved him wrong. After this, I get bitched at by kids like purple because I dare post in a thread on a free forum where anybody with an opinion has a right to be. Anything thereafter has just been answering accusations & questions placed, to which if myself & others don't post, the place would just end up as a fanboy movement.


Posted by Ian on May-25-2006 11:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Purple


Or they may break glasses and window panes in their house. Haters.


ok, forget the fact that u dont like me. Do you honestly think that people who dislike ASOT will go around breaking windows ? Have I totally misjudged you from being a troll and you're actually somebody who is just really naive? Perhaps that explains a bit, I dunno


Posted by Purple on May-25-2006 11:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
ok, forget the fact that u dont like me. Do you honestly think that people who dislike ASOT will go around breaking windows ? Have I totally misjudged you from being a troll and you're actually somebody who is just really naive? Perhaps that explains a bit, I dunno


OMG I cant believe you are still wagging your tail to get my attention. For reply to your post above, kindly read the last post on this page and my one post in next page:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...12&pagenumber=8


Posted by Ian on May-25-2006 11:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
OMG I cant believe you are still wagging your tail to get my attention. For reply to your post above, kindly read the last post on this page and my one post in next page:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...12&pagenumber=8


As if I want your attention. I'd prefer it if you died in some sort of nasty chemical explosion, wiping out any chance of you reproducing a dumb offspring into this already flagging world of ours. I'm not going to just sit by & not respond when you make the stupidest comments (and then when you delete them, which is why I quote them) to try & make yourself look better. I don't need to make second accounts to back myself up, I have no need to ask people to photochop pictures of you so that I can feel cool, however I'm not at liberty to ignore such ignorance. If you don't want people to pick up on your obvious lack of intelligence, just don't post, simple.


Posted by Purple on May-25-2006 11:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
As if I want your attention. I'd prefer it if you died in some sort of nasty chemical explosion, wiping out any chance of you reproducing a dumb offspring into this already flagging world of ours. I'm not going to just sit by & not respond when you make the stupidest comments (and then when you delete them, which is why I quote them) to try & make yourself look better. I don't need to make second accounts to back myself up, I have no need to ask people to photochop pictures of you so that I can feel cool, however I'm not at liberty to ignore such ignorance. If you don't want people to pick up on your obvious lack of intelligence, just don't post, simple.





Read the post above you, this time slowly again.

kthanxbye.


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