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Posted by gibbo on Jul-11-2006 21:17:

quote:
Originally posted by svens_bath
fuck off a 'lets all wave our fists at ronaldo thread' randomly appears on TA just after the england defeat and you want me to beleive your not trying to blame ronaldo for something..aye alright then sound.

why is it that one of your own said this on page 1:

"hardly ronaldos fault, other portugese players were just as frustrating. All boils down to a shit formation & a shit performance"

he obviously read the thread the same way as me and realised that it wasnt ronaldo's fault


He must have the same poor eyesight, reading and interpretation skills as u then. Everyone, the germans and French included hated Ronaldo's antics. Like i said no one even mentioned England. So u believe what u like, u obviously do anyway. Its annoying that if u lose in a WC or any football game ur opinion on things doesnt matter anymore and everyone plays the bitter card. We lost because we couldnt beat Portugal and we cant take penalties. Who's denied that on the thread, no one.


Posted by svens_bath on Jul-11-2006 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by gibbo
We lost because we couldnt beat Portugal and we cant take penalties.


well we got there in the end didnt we.


Posted by gibbo on Jul-11-2006 21:24:

quote:
Originally posted by svens_bath
well we got there in the end didnt we.


Only because u cant read, i never denied we lost because we werent good. Look at my last 4 posts that point it out. Like beating a dead horse tbh.


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jul-11-2006 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by svens_bath
well we got there in the end didnt we.



No mate. 120+ posts on, and YOU got there in the end. The rest of us were there all along.


Posted by svens_bath on Jul-11-2006 21:39:

aye no bother


Posted by Coup on Jul-11-2006 21:58:

quote:
Originally posted by svens_bath
aye no bother

im not done yet

quote:
Originally posted by djgosher2023
and id say 66% of them fans booed owen h at the start of the group stages...only 'support' the team when playing good.its an known fact

The ONLY reason any England fans booed Hargreaves is because Sven insisted on bringing him on every 60minutes to a game which did not need a defensive midfielder and we never saw what he was capable of. People raved on how good is he for Bayern and the only ever time you saw him in an England shirt is coming on at 60minutes and doing fuck all.

4/5 years of that and its not hard to see why people were getting pissed. It was Sven's fault. Hargreaves finally had the chance to show us hes actually a pretty mint player. Had he been given the chance years ago none of it would have happened. The booing was more likely aimed at the general "here we go again, 60mins and Hargreaves comes on decision."


Posted by djgosher2023 on Jul-12-2006 12:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
im not done yet


The ONLY reason any England fans booed Hargreaves is because Sven insisted on bringing him on every 60minutes to a game which did not need a defensive midfielder and we never saw what he was capable of. People raved on how good is he for Bayern and the only ever time you saw him in an England shirt is coming on at 60minutes and doing fuck all.

4/5 years of that and its not hard to see why people were getting pissed. It was Sven's fault. Hargreaves finally had the chance to show us hes actually a pretty mint player. Had he been given the chance years ago none of it would have happened. The booing was more likely aimed at the general "here we go again, 60mins and Hargreaves comes on decision."


then why did the english fans boo him in there last game before going over to germany?.and it was only a friendly match.


Posted by Coup on Jul-12-2006 13:16:

quote:
Originally posted by djgosher2023
then why did the english fans boo him in there last game before going over to germany?.and it was only a friendly match.

you twat.


Posted by djgosher2023 on Jul-12-2006 13:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
you twat.


its true but.


Posted by Martin McG on Jul-12-2006 13:50:

you know what i cant believe some of the anti scottish, irish and welsh contingent on here!

its just blatant racism, now there would be an uproar if anyone spouted political/religious nonsense about asians, muslims, blacks etc
but no its against countries so it must be fine then, get a grip of yourselves its a game of football that you lost

i dont want england to win any major tournaments down to the simple fact of the english media but i do not have any problem with english people

so leave it at football and think before you decide to post your bile


Posted by gibbo on Jul-12-2006 13:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Martin McG
you know what i cant believe some of the anti scottish, irish and welsh contingent on here!

its just blatant racism, now there would be an uproar if anyone spouted political/religious nonsense about asians, muslims, blacks etc
but no its against countries so it must be fine then, get a grip of yourselves its a game of football that you lost

i dont want england to win any major tournaments down to the simple fact of the english media but i do not have any problem with english people

so leave it at football and think before you decide to post your bile


What has anyone said thats racist u absolute muppet, actually read the thread before posting such crap. Theres been a lot of bitter anti-english rant on here and some calling of nations football teams crap but i dont see what that has to do with personally insulting countries or racism. A post of such pure muppetry almost doesnt deserve a response so i'm not quite sure why i bothered.


Posted by djgosher2023 on Jul-12-2006 14:01:

quote:
Originally posted by gibbo
What has anyone said thats racist u absolute muppet, actually read the thread before posting such crap. Theres been a lot of bitter anti-english rant on here and some calling of nations football teams crap but i dont see what that has to do with personally insulting countries or racism. A post of such pure muppetry almost doesnt deserve a response so i'm not quite sure why i bothered.


.before the world cup even started the media were making it out that england had the world cup wraped up again.

90% of anti-english is because of the media.:


Posted by Martin McG on Jul-12-2006 14:05:

quote:
Originally posted by gibbo
What has anyone said thats racist u absolute muppet, actually read the thread before posting such crap. Theres been a lot of bitter anti-english rant on here and some calling of nations football teams crap but i dont see what that has to do with personally insulting countries or racism. A post of such pure muppetry almost doesnt deserve a response so i'm not quite sure why i bothered.


your the only muppet on here, i have read the entire thread and the slating of nations down to your own stupid assumptions is laughable

get your head out of your own arse and grow up

its a game of football for fuck sake and blaming one person for you going home is just sheer stupidity, Rooney stamped on the guys nuts and Ronaldo went looking for the card but Rooney pushed Ronaldo under the referees nose before the card was issued, now the letter of the law states anyone who is involved in violent conduct or raising their hands should get a straight red

now rooney has stamped on the guys nuts and then blatantly shoved ronaldo next to the referee, and your still blaming ronaldo for asking for a card and winking?!


Posted by gibbo on Jul-12-2006 14:05:

quote:
Originally posted by djgosher2023
.before the world cup even started the media were making it out that england had the world cup wraped up again.

90% of anti-english is because of the media.:


I don't know how u've managed to derive that. Our media were convinced we couldnt win from the day Rooney got injured and then were never positive again. Then take all the anti-sven articles and insults of his tactics and yeh i can see what u mean, our media were convinced we would win it . People believed we could win it this time, but nobody really believed we would because better teams like Brazil and Argentina were there as well as a lot of other good teams. This weird interpretation that we think we have a divine right to win things is just a misconception people like to have so they can have a go at English people. Its not created by the media as they actually seem to do everything they can to disrupt us winning it because a bitter exit sells them more papers.


Posted by gibbo on Jul-12-2006 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Martin McG
your the only muppet on here, i have read the entire thread and the slating of nations down to your own stupid assumptions is laughable

get your head out of your own arse and grow up

its a game of football for fuck sake and blaming one person for you going home is just sheer stupidity, Rooney stamped on the guys nuts and Ronaldo went looking for the card but Rooney pushed Ronaldo under the referees nose before the card was issued, now the letter of the law states anyone who is involved in violent conduct or raising their hands should get a straight red

now rooney has stamped on the guys nuts and then blatantly shoved ronaldo next to the referee, and your still blaming ronaldo for asking for a card and winking?!


FUCK OFF!!!

quote one racist comment that isnt only against a countries football team but is personal then u'll have some ground to work with. You've read nothing or have the interpretation skills of someone who's just had his head smashed with a sledge hammer.

Again no one even mentioned England in this thread, its about Ronaldo's cheating, no one even mentioned Englands loss until the Scottish and Irish contingent started having a go and calling us bitter for losing. There's more anti-english rant on here than anti-scottish or irish so u pull your head out of your ass and think before u type because ur claiming to have read the whole thread is a joke if u think its racist. Like i said theres not one actual racist comment on the thread so i have to question whether u know what the word means.


Posted by djgosher2023 on Jul-12-2006 14:18:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_mdma


Its time to start some good old hoolaganism down in germany!!!!


and england got voted the best fans...and this was the 3th reply to the topic..

enough said about the english fans.everytime they loose go looking for trouble after the matches


Posted by svens_bath on Jul-12-2006 14:21:

quote:
Originally posted by gibbo

Again no one even mentioned England in this thread, its about Ronaldo's cheating, no one even mentioned Englands loss until the Scottish and Irish contingent started having a go and calling us bitter for losing.


read the first page. one of your own englsih compatriots said that he didnt think it was ronaldo's fault. in fact he was the the first one to point out that it wasnt ronaldo's fault..so i honestly dont know where you are getting this idea that this thread is not about englands loss, and that it is someone other than an englishman who brought this element into this thread...it is so very clearly implied.


Posted by gibbo on Jul-12-2006 14:21:

quote:
Originally posted by djgosher2023
and england got voted the best fans...and this was the 3th reply to the topic..

enough said about the english fans.everytime they loose go looking for trouble after the matches


Sorry mate but that point isnt worth crap our fans had one of the lowest arrest rates. Also u'll find apart from one night of trouble caused by a few hundred people, hundreds of thousands possibly millions of our fans by the end who visited Germany behaved brilliantly. A case of a few spoiling it for the many and people taking advantage. Even Fifa and German officials have praised the behaviour of our fans, if we'd done so much damage to Germany we wouldnt have got voted best fans and we wouldnt have been getting praise from German officials thats for sure.


Posted by gibbo on Jul-12-2006 14:23:

quote:
Originally posted by svens_bath
read the first page. one of your own englsih compatriots said that he didnt think it was ronaldo's fault. in fact he was the the first one to point out that it wasnt ronaldo's fault..so i honestly dont know where you are getting this idea that this thread is not about englands loss, and that it is someone other than an englishman who brought this element into this thread...it is so very clearly implied.


Calling Ronaldo a cheat is true and saying he was wrong to go to the ref and calling him names is fair game because what he did was wrong. No one says he was to blame for the loss, infact everyone knows and admitted it wasnt his fault, just that he's a pratt. Like beating a dead horse mentioning this point to u because it doesnt sink in.


Posted by Martin McG on Jul-12-2006 14:28:

quote:
Originally posted by gibbo
FUCK OFF!!!

quote one racist comment that isnt only against a countries football team but is personal then u'll have some ground to work with. You've read nothing or have the interpretation skills of someone who's just had his head smashed with a sledge hammer.

Again no one even mentioned England in this thread, its about Ronaldo's cheating, no one even mentioned Englands loss until the Scottish and Irish contingent started having a go and calling us bitter for losing. There's more anti-english rant on here than anti-scottish or irish so u pull your head out of your ass and think before u type because ur claiming to have read the whole thread is a joke if u think its racist. Like i said theres not one actual racist comment on the thread so i have to question whether u know what the word means.


here you go Gibbo, enjoy

now racism is not only about colour or religion remember, it is discriminating against minorities etc, check?

well here are a few of the comments that pissed me off as it was not related to football but towards a nation

quote:
Originally posted by sykadelik
Quiet now, your opinion is invalid due to bias as all irish, welsh and scottish on this matter. You'll always take the opposite side to the English rather than the side of reason.


quote:
Originally posted by Coup
The Scottish even voted for Ronaldo in the FIFA young player award to try and counter act the damage we were doing by voting for someone else.


quote:
Originally posted by Coup
What a suprise, a Scot.


Posted by Coup on Jul-12-2006 14:36:

I'm with gibbo on this one. I don't think you actually understand the word racism, yet you seem to be spouting it all over the shop.

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
The Scottish even voted for Ronaldo in the FIFA young player award to try and counter act the damage we were doing by voting for someone else.

How the fuck is this racist? That comment is FACT. That piece of information was printed on www.bbc.co.uk/football when it said England fans were voting for the #2 player to make Ronaldo lose. Under that, it said "a recent campaign has been launched in Scotland to get people to vote for Ronaldo to try and lessen the damage being done by the English".

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
What a suprise, a Scot.

Yet again, how is this racist? That point refers to yet more bollocks not being understood (seem to have a lot in this thread), ignoring the points made and repeating the same drawn out argument and bashing the English - just happened to come from a Scot, hence my reply.

sort it out.


Posted by svens_bath on Jul-12-2006 14:38:

quote:
Originally posted by gibbo
Calling Ronaldo a cheat is true and saying he was wrong to go to the ref and calling him names is fair game because what he did was wrong. No one says he was to blame for the loss, infact everyone knows and admitted it wasnt his fault, just that he's a pratt. Like beating a dead horse mentioning this point to u because it doesnt sink in.


clearly not. there is obviously a massive difference in interpretation of this thread then, but seeing as my original post actually did make the point you are saying, i think we ultimately agree.


Posted by Martin McG on Jul-12-2006 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
I'm with gibbo on this one. I don't think you actually understand the word racism, yet you seem to be spouting it all over the shop.


How the fuck is this racist? That comment is FACT That piece of information was printed on bbc.co.uk/football when it said England fans were voting for the #2 player to make Ronaldo lose. Under that, it said "a recent campaign has been launched in Scotland to get people to vote for Ronaldo to try and lessen the damage being done by the English".


Yet again, how is this racist? That point refers to yet more bollocks not being understood (seem to have a lot in this thread), ignoring the points made and repeating the same drawn out argument and bashing the English - just happened to come from a Scot, hence my reply.

sort it out.


coup the point is not all scottish people were wanting england to lose or voting for ronaldo to win it, now if you had said a minority then fine as i accept that some people were but the fact is the way these things are portrayed is that it was every non english person in britain


Posted by gibbo on Jul-12-2006 14:43:

Theres nothing racist in those comments u idiot. Where are the insults. All the insults are saying scots cant have a valid opinion on the football team because the scottish team is crap. Thats just a football fact that thje scottish team isnt good, not an insult based on scotland or a point of racism, if i say Latvia's team is crap, does that then make me anti-latvian. Like u said its only football. If someone called u a fuckin scottish whatever then u'd have a case. Plenty of irish and scottish people on this thread have said things like "The English are just bitter", i'm not going round calling them racists and u should know better. I'm sure Sy and Coup will be delighted to see u calling them racists, and i can sure u their not and its just so insulting.

No one on this thread is actually anti-irish or anti-scottish, some of us just think ur football teams are crap and u've said things to the same affect about England. Can i call u a racist now then? What Sy said was about scottish and irish fans just going against England fans no matter what is true. Scotland fans bought Trinidad and Tobago shirts to support them in the WC just to be anti-england. To me thats a lot more racist than anything i've seen on here, just hate us because we're English. I don't hate people because of their nationality and neither do Sy or Coup. Those comments are not personal to a nation they are purely football based. How u've taken offence to them after some of the crap people have wrote about England is beyond me.


Posted by Martin McG on Jul-12-2006 14:47:

gibbo i know sy and coup well enough to partially agree there but these comments are out of order they are bugger all to do with the scottish team, not one part refers to the scottish national team, it refers to the scottish people


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