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Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2 hey now the vestax decks are pretty cool.. IMHO the only thing giving technics a run for the money.

listen, I took the pdx2000's out for a spin, and I assure you they are better than techs.

Start and stop time is close to instant, and reverse takes no more than 1 second to completely reverse the platter, at a constant speed.

The clickless pitch fader is perfect, and somehow feels better than the tech's.

ANd they just look so plain beautiful.

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Originally posted by DJ Chrono listen, I took the pdx2000's out for a spin, and I assure you they are better than techs. Start and stop time is close to instant, and reverse takes no more than 1 second to completely reverse the platter, at a constant speed. The clickless pitch fader is perfect, and somehow feels better than the tech's. ANd they just look so plain beautiful.

which makes Vextax a great alternative!

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Originally posted by JohnSmith and of course.. tech12s.. if you don't have those, you are a wannabee in my opinion.

Well, I guess I'm a "wannabee"

I "wannabee" a DJ in my condo.

Just because you don't have the Versace version of turntables, doesn't mean you're a "wannabee". I love spinning, I love my tables, and nobody's gonna tell me what I should be buying.

Come on bro...we're all one, big, happy tranceaddict family, let's stick together!

Apologies if hostility is felt.

Love and respect!

I agree with u4ea... I don't like it when ppl brag about their equipment like that. Sure 1200's are the standard, but is that a reason for you to talk down on ppl who don't have them? Djing is about other things aswell... music, fun, skill etc... I think fun is the most important one

Yeah, you guys are right, sorry, i didn't mean to come of as a snob because of my preference for techs.

they are great decks, but, as has been said, there are others that are very good as well. notably vestax, and gemini's are OK too.

I'll tell you a little story about a dude i know name "dj wicked" he has 2 "turntables" actually, i think that you would call them record players more precisely. i think one is a sony, and one is a pioneer or something, they don't have pitch control, they might even be belt driven, i'm not sure.

he also has a mixer he got from radio shack, with just a crossfader and volume knobs, the thing hardly works.

anyway, one day he invited me over to "spin" and i showed up and just laughed.

I decided that day, i would get tech12s, and that would be all i would settle for.

but, to each his own, and i mean no disrespect to shock wav or u4ea, or anyone else who doesn't have techs.

hell, i am thinking of buying a numark TTX1 for a 3rd deck, so.. yeah..

anyway, that crow was tasty!

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Originally posted by JohnSmith Yeah, you guys are right, sorry, i didn't mean to come of as a snob because of my preference for techs. they are great decks, but, as has been said, there are others that are very good as well. notably vestax, and gemini's are OK too.

you being snobish ?
vestax and gemini are not just ok
actually gemini blows if you're talking real shit ....
Vestax is defenitely a real alternative....

but let us not forget ... most improvments these days are made to please to the scratch dj market with , straight arms for example ....

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Originally posted by JohnSmith I'll tell you a little story about a dude i know name "dj wicked" he has 2 "turntables" actually, i think that you would call them record players more precisely. i think one is a sony, and one is a pioneer or something, they don't have pitch control, they might even be belt driven, i'm not sure. he also has a mixer he got from radio shack, with just a crossfader and volume knobs, the thing hardly works. anyway, one day he invited me over to "spin" and i showed up and just laughed.

awwwww I bet you wrecked his day , and you might have also destroyed all the coolness he thought he had in him!
you bad bad boy!
you gonna go and give him your 1200s NOW !
it's an order

what about the new numarks, look really smooth, have some very cool options, switchable tonearm, and you can swictch around the pitch bar, even cost more then tech, so at least numark thinks they are worth something
Anyone had a chance to play around with them? like look pretty nifty

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Originally posted by UltimaGT what about the new numarks, look really smooth, have some very cool options, switchable tonearm, and you can swictch around the pitch bar, even cost more then tech, so at least numark thinks they are worth something Anyone had a chance to play around with them? like look pretty nifty

NEW NUMARKS=SCRATCH DJ HEAVEN

who cares in trance/techno about straight arms! come on! these things are made to scratch not spin and beatmatch....

but that's one of the ringers on the numarks, they have SWITCHABLE tonearms, INCLUDED check it out : numark.com

they look realy good 'tah boot, makes me kinda wonder if the 1210 were the right move...

Yeah the new numarks look pretty sweet.

and all those features.. well, they are neat, but the way i see it, it's just stuff that can break.

my techs do exactly what i need them too, and i know people that have had theirs for 20 years and they still perform just like they did out of the box.

now, maybe numark TTX1s will do that too? who knows they have only been out for a few months, so it's impossible to say.

I'd like to read a review from a TA on them, all i can find on the web seems to be marketing material for them.

I know the switchable arms are included but it's pointless!

even most scratch djs still only use MK2s

if you're spinning techno/trance and you use straight arms call yourself a moron, cause that's just what you would be...
most straight arms are to short so they cause quicker wear on your vinyl

gemini SA 600 which are "cheap" TTs are the only decently lengthed straight arms out there

just don't get some!

concerning numark ... well the TT X1 is decent but all the extra features... it's like a car with a good engine, the electronics and superficial things are bound to go dead before the rest .....

technics power had been to not follow a hype in making new TTs everywhere trying to renew the market ....

and Numarks with all their billions of glow in your face features, make it easier to mix stuff is just,,,, lame lame lame ... pretty soon they'll make them automatics! and beatmatch and mix without anyones help....

Vestax is also getting steady on their models sticking to what they have without following hype and they are real good so I say vestax is the only decent competition.

and in case anybody gets pissed cause I might be bashing on cheap equipement I'm not ... I totally understand if if you can't afford the expensive stuff

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Originally posted by jdat if you're spinning techno/trance and you use straight arms call yourself a moron, cause that's just what you would be...

watch your mouth, I use straight tone arms.

I would seriously like to see the difference between wear on a record from a str8 to a S tone arm.

All my records sound as good as when I baught them. Wear is reflected more on how heavy you set your weight. I've usually got mine at 1.5-2 grams. There is no skipping ever, and it's light enough to not wear down my records.

And i think those numarks look pretty good, some of you people just can't accept that your 1200's have actually been outdated (..well in terms of power and features) and are not the top of the line anymore. Vestax already was ahead of technics long ago, but same thing applies.

I dont want to start an argument here about turntables. Just use whatever equipment you like best. Its not about the equipment, its about the SKillz

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Originally posted by DJ Chrono watch your mouth, I use straight tone arms. I would seriously like to see the difference between wear on a record from a str8 to a S tone arm. All my records sound as good as when I baught them. Wear is reflected more on how heavy you set your weight. I've usually got mine at 1.5-2 grams. There is no skipping ever, and it's light enough to not wear down my records. And i think those numarks look pretty good, some of you people just can't accept that your 1200's have actually been outdated (..well in terms of power and features) and are not the top of the line anymore. Vestax already was ahead of technics long ago, but same thing applies. I dont want to start an argument here about turntables. Just use whatever equipment you like best. Its not about the equipment, its about the SKillz

ah sorry didn't mean to sound nasty concerning straight arm TTs ...

actually there is one dilemma with wear with str8 arms ... there's believers and non believers... delicate subject I know ..

I don't say I'm not accepting the rest ! I never said that !
And I give lots of credit to Vestax !
Numark ... maybe later

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Originally posted by DJ Chrono I dont want to start an argument here about turntables. Just use whatever equipment you like best. Its not about the equipment, its about the SKillz

and yes you're right ... do whatever suits you

This forum rocks. people can actually disagree, and not get intoa flame war.. so refreshing, some places are much worse.

anyway..

as for the straight tone arms thing.. i have no idea, i have heard that they wear out your records, but who knows, that could be techics marketing for all i know.

what i do know for sure, is that the TTX1 is an untested machine, and the tech12M3D is tested.

i agree that thevestax gives the only real competition at this point.

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Originally posted by JohnSmith as for the straight tone arms thing.. i have no idea, i have heard that they wear out your records, but who knows, that could be techics marketing for all i know.

what I find weird is that all home TTs have straight arms ....
off course I know you can't spin with them but still ... ain't that supposed to mean that straight arms are good?

this is like a huge dilemma! I've read they wear out more .... but I read it only in a few rare places and it seems like barely anyone knows anything about the subject ...

I'm gonna contact a friend of mine who presses vinyl for his work and ask his opinion ! I hope he answers ASAP!(haven't been in touch with him in a while )

Well.. i would assume since a regular home record player from sony or whatever is about $80, and a tech12 is more like $700, that the tech probably is using the better method?

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Originally posted by JohnSmith Well.. i would assume since a regular home record player from sony or whatever is about $80, and a tech12 is more like $700, that the tech probably is using the better method?

that makes sense yes BUT

people used to play records all the time ... and they would last for years... or maybe they wore down ...

I'm waiting for a reply from my vinyl pressing friend ... that won't be till tomorrow at least I'm sure

Finally just finish setup my equips (i am so happy)
although all stuffs still on the floor...ha~~
1 x mk3
1 x mk4
1 x djm600




and i still got some questions...plz help!!

1.do i put my rca cords to the phono or line on my mixer? which is better? or doesant matter?

2.i saw a post on the web site "The master (out) is sometimes called main (out). It is the output that will feed the power amplifier(s) for the dance floor speakers"

so i should plug my rca cords into booth/monitor instead of master out, correct ?

3.where can i find a djm600 manual,or anyone has it? mine is japanese manual.which i cant read......wuwu.....~~

Nice setup ;-) That stuff is so new, I still see cardboard from the original box!

#1 Phono = analogy input; Line = digital input; Since it's from turntables, you plug them into phono.

#2 The DJM-600 has 2 master outs. XLR outputs (for professional equipment) and RCA outputs. Master outs goes into the receiver/amplifier that's powering the main speakers (speakers the audience will hear). Booth/monitor outs goes to the amplifier that's power your monitor speakers in the DJ booth. If you only have 2 speakers, use the master out.

#3 Try ebay or pioneer's website to see if they ahve an electronic version.

mmmmDJM 600 !

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Originally posted by JohnSmith as for the straight tone arms thing.. i have no idea, i have heard that they wear out your records, but who knows, that could be techics marketing for all i know.

it's actually basic physics

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And i think those numarks look pretty good, some of you people just can't accept that your 1200's have actually been outdated (..well in terms of power and features) and are not the top of the line anymore.

i honestly can't understand how you could say something like this... is it because you honestly don't get it, or are you starting to stir something up? they've been the industry standard for the past 20 years for a reason dude...

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Originally posted by TranceGeek it's actually basic physics i honestly can't understand how you could say something like this... is it because you honestly don't get it, or are you starting to stir something up? they've been the industry standard for the past 20 years for a reason dude...

for how much longer do you think they will be the industry standard ?

1200's are the industry standard. just like the stanton 500's are the industry standard needles, it doesnt mean that they're the best.

I just got these 3 days ago...I am welding a case for em, and it should bein by the end of the week....So I am playing em on the bed

2 Tech. 1200 MK2's
Korg KAOSS Mixer

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Originally posted by Boomer187 I just got these 3 days ago...I am welding a case for em, and it should bein by the end of the week....So I am playing em on the bed 2 Tech. 1200 MK2's Korg KAOSS Mixer

WIth slipmats like those, I wouldn't dream of putting a record on it.

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