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Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Sep-26-2006 22:19:

quote:
Originally posted by raveed
so its basically non parents teaching future parents on how to be good parents???


Pretty much. Although prospective teachers do it sometimes too I think.

My sis-inlaw read books, which is fine, but she did EVERYTHING by the book, and it became annoying.


Posted by Azz3D on Sep-26-2006 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
group hug anyone?


www.grouphug.us

:P


Posted by Slylee on Sep-26-2006 22:42:

actually this is pointless. you have no idea what you're talking about and you're pretty much arguing that every expert in this field (i.e. a child psychologist, or pretty much any psychologist) doesn't know what they're saying when it comes to punishing a child by using phsyical force (ok so that was better than "smacking" right?)

i actually babysat for a young couple for 2 years in high school and the wife was about 29 and she had her degree in early childhood development from a major university (some midwest state, i forget) and ran a daycare. i actually learned a great deal from her. everything she said made sense and her kids were awesome (they were 2 and 4 at the time). she really knew how to get them to listen and behave without having to spank them or anything like that. and they had their moments, but she had patience and understanding, and most importantly, education about young children and their way of thinking and dealing with things. that's the problem. most adults are ignorant about what goes through a 3 and 4 year old's mind. they don't know the reasoning behind it or how to deal with it. in the parent's mind, they're just being a "brat" and need a good "ass whooping".


anyway, i'm done yacking about my knowledge of how to deal with young children (who would have thought? ). i know i dont have any of my own, but i have tons of experience and pretty good knowledge even though i dont have a degree in it, and i know enough to know that what you are saying is just your own opinion based on your own experience, which you need to realize doesn't mean it's right.


Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Sep-26-2006 22:54:

I'm sure the couple you babysat for had great kids. I've done baby-sitting and see the same thing.

But equally, I would say kids who have been smacked also turn out great.

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
i know enough to know that what you are saying is just your own opinion based on your own experience, which you need to realize doesn't mean it's right.


Take a leaf out of your own book, please!


Posted by Silky Johnson on Sep-26-2006 23:07:

You don't need a fucking degree in ECD to know developmental stages of children and what they need to grow up "right". It's not like it's priviledged information.


We study this shit heavily in nursing, and there is no "right" or "wrong" way to raise a child. Sure, there are specific things a parent should be doing in order to teach their child good behaviour, but in the end nothing really matters more than the consistency of rewards or punishments you give them...whether it be a smack here and there or not. All the child will understand in the end is whether mommy and daddy mean what they say....it's up to the parent how they choose to enforce that.

In my opinion, a smack here and there is perfectly acceptable, only if the parent shows the child an equal amount of love and praise for things he or she does "right". You can't just scold a child only, or praise them only....there has to be both.


Posted by Danny Ocean on Sep-26-2006 23:11:

/endthread


Posted by adi26 on Sep-26-2006 23:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Danny Ocean
/endthread


yea or atleast change the title of the thread....its soo misleading...


Posted by Slylee on Sep-26-2006 23:34:

i didn't say it's priviledged information jenny, but i was pointing out that they shouldn't act like a degree in ECD means shit. in my experience, the average parent (including my sister and my uncle who recently had his first child) don't have a fucking clue as to what they're doing with their kids. but i'm sure there are also plenty without the degrees and whatnot (and who occasionally spank their children) who are doing a terrific job. don't forget, earlier in this thread, i said that i was a little torn, but that i didn't think it was ridiculous to give a small child a smack on the hand or a light spanking...but i certainly wouldn't make a habit out of it with my own children. i've gotten impatient and annoyed with my nephew or children i was watching, but it just didn't occur to me to spank them. i know it's because they're not my own, but i dont think i would be that way with my own either.


my uncle's kid still hasn't slept ONE day (i swear to god i'm not exaggerating) in his own bed, even though they probably spent about 5k decorating it. he "still likes to sleep with mommy and daddy" and he's 3, going to be 4 in about 4 months. they pretty much let him run the household. when we were there for christmas, he kept changing the channel in the livingroom even though my mom and i (and a few other family members) were watching something on TV and my uncle's wife was just like, "oh, hahha he wants to watch Barnie".



i'm nervous about how he's going to turn out as an adult.


Posted by Omega_M on Sep-26-2006 23:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
when we were there for christmas, he kept changing the channel in the livingroom even though my mom and i (and a few other family members) were watching something on TV and my uncle's wife was just like, "oh, hahha he wants to watch Barnie".


See this is when you bitch slap him. Nasty little thing.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Sep-26-2006 23:48:

There's nothing worse than hearing a parent complain about their bratty kids, totally oblivious to how they turned out that way....


HELLO! YOU FUCKING RAISED THEM!




LOL....morons.


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