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shooter!



luv that kharnt

how bout i go eat some hey? i just may!

haha

geez you go away for a weekend and you almost miss a whole test match

i was looking forward to england having a crack but when i wake up and they lost 2 wickets in the first 45 mins already i knew it was over hehe. first blood to us!

Following the crushing defeat of England in the first test, the International Cricket >Council has imposed a new set of rules for the rest of the Ashes series to make the contest more even.
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>1) As a result, England has been granted an automatic wickie, freeing
>up wicket keeper Geraint Jones to defend the boundary. Under the
>rule,Australian batsmen will be deemed out "caught behind" if the ball nicks >their bat and lands in the immediate area behind the wicket. The rule is a >compromise from the original English proposal which had pushed for automatic >slips as well. The ICC refused that request on the grounds that "someone has >to go and get the ball when an Australian misses it."
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>2) In addition, Australia is under strict "tip and run" restrictions
>which require they take a run off every ball they hit. Ricky Ponting was happy >to accept this, as it meant no change to his current game plan. As a >compromise, it was agreed that the Australians will also have to shout out >the word "wickets" when completing a run to make run out decisions by >umpires easier.
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>3) Following his outstanding performances, Ricky > Ponting has "six and out" restrictions imposed on him. As well, following >complaints from English fielders, Ponting will have to get the ball if it >goes across the road.>
>4) Instead of using a bat, Justin Langer will now be obliged to use his >arm with his jumper wrapped around it.
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>5) New rules for England include "one hand, one bounce" while they are >fielding, and the provision of "last man carries" when they are batting.
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>6) The English tried to extend the "can't get out first ball" provision >to "can't get out first ten overs", but the ICC proclaimed that the extra >runs gained would hardly be worth the effort. Australian captain Ricky Ponting >as vigorously opposed the "last man carries" rule and has launched an >appeal. Ponting says Australia will only agree to the rule if there are >electric wickets at the end, allowing Aussie fielders to throw to the stumps >at either end.
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> 7 ) English pace bowler Matthew Hoggard will also be allowed to wrap the >ball's seam with electrical tape when he's bowling in the secondinnings. >

> 8 ) An ICC spokesperson stated there will be "no LB" for English batsmen >unless "it is really, really obvious."
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> 9 ) Shane Warne has conceded that its "fair enough" that he has to bowl >underarm (but not molly grubbers) to the English tail end.
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>10 ) If England decides that Steven Harmison is to be given an over, the >umpire will deem the Australian batsmen as dismissed if Harmison lands the >ball anywhere on the pitch. Captain Ricky Ponting has no problems with this >change, as the probability of such a dismissal occurring is >infintessinatelly small.
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>Despite the changes, Australia remains firm favourites to win the series, paying $0.22, while an English win is currently paying $1.3
>trillion.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Following the crushing defeat of England in the first test, the International Cricket >Council has imposed a new set of rules for the rest of the Ashes series to make the contest more even. > >1) As a result, England has been granted an automatic wickie, freeing >up wicket keeper Geraint Jones to defend the boundary. Under the >rule,Australian batsmen will be deemed out "caught behind" if the ball nicks >their bat and lands in the immediate area behind the wicket. The rule is a >compromise from the original English proposal which had pushed for automatic >slips as well. The ICC refused that request on the grounds that "someone has >to go and get the ball when an Australian misses it." > >2) In addition, Australia is under strict "tip and run" restrictions >which require they take a run off every ball they hit. Ricky Ponting was happy >to accept this, as it meant no change to his current game plan. As a >compromise, it was agreed that the Australians will also have to shout out >the word "wickets" when completing a run to make run out decisions by >umpires easier. > >3) Following his outstanding performances, Ricky > Ponting has "six and out" restrictions imposed on him. As well, following >complaints from English fielders, Ponting will have to get the ball if it >goes across the road.> >4) Instead of using a bat, Justin Langer will now be obliged to use his >arm with his jumper wrapped around it. > >5) New rules for England include "one hand, one bounce" while they are >fielding, and the provision of "last man carries" when they are batting. > >6) The English tried to extend the "can't get out first ball" provision >to "can't get out first ten overs", but the ICC proclaimed that the extra >runs gained would hardly be worth the effort. Australian captain Ricky Ponting >as vigorously opposed the "last man carries" rule and has launched an >appeal. Ponting says Australia will only agree to the rule if there are >electric wickets at the end, allowing Aussie fielders to throw to the stumps >at either end. > > 7 ) English pace bowler Matthew Hoggard will also be allowed to wrap the >ball's seam with electrical tape when he's bowling in the secondinnings. > > 8 ) An ICC spokesperson stated there will be "no LB" for English batsmen >unless "it is really, really obvious." > > 9 ) Shane Warne has conceded that its "fair enough" that he has to bowl >underarm (but not molly grubbers) to the English tail end. > >10 ) If England decides that Steven Harmison is to be given an over, the >umpire will deem the Australian batsmen as dismissed if Harmison lands the >ball anywhere on the pitch. Captain Ricky Ponting has no problems with this >change, as the probability of such a dismissal occurring is >infintessinatelly small. > >Despite the changes, Australia remains firm favourites to win the series, paying $0.22, while an English win is currently paying $1.3 >trillion.

wat a laugh!

lol

love how all of a sudden it changes. Ponting could well have ended up looking very stupid there by not enforcing the follow on. I think we did ok 2nd innings, but we were simply left with too much to do from inept bowling. Hoggard hasn't fired in a while now, and harmison is so out of confidence. I think there's a lot of points to come out of this though:

we lack the dynamic captaincy of vaughan, the brains to set unusual fields, make unusual bowling changes & generally inspire.

Flintoff is not captaincy material. It's too much for him. Strauss captained fine last summer when freddie was injured, so I'd have kept him on, it must have dented his confidence when he needed it most against his worst enemy (warne)

Bell has improved, you can't deny that. He's still making some mistakes,but overall isn't too bad.

We miss simon jones. big time.

If Geraint Jones is a good enough batsman, play him as opener anyway, and drop cook who looks inept against bounce & pace, giving Read the chance to take the gloves at number 7.

Michael Holding said it on commentary: Batsmen make runs, bowlers win games, so WHY didn't we pick Panesar & Plunkett, 2 of our real good bowlers


Anyway, let's see what happens in Adelaide

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Originally posted by Ian we lack the dynamic captaincy of vaughan, the brains to set unusual fields, make unusual bowling changes & generally inspire. Flintoff is not captaincy material. It's too much for him. Strauss captained fine last summer when freddie was injured, so I'd have kept him on, it must have dented his confidence when he needed it most against his worst enemy (warne) Bell has improved, you can't deny that. He's still making some mistakes,but overall isn't too bad. We miss simon jones. big time. Michael Holding said it on commentary: Batsmen make runs, bowlers win games, so WHY didn't we pick Panesar & Plunkett, 2 of our real good bowlers Anyway, let's see what happens in Adelaide

Agreeing with what you say mate.

Michael Vaughan is your modern day Dermot Reeve, he made weird but effective bowling changes and field settings, but it always seemed to pay off. Vaughan is missed greatly, not only for his batting, but his captaincy. Yes he didnt make enough runs while he was captain, but he is still a quality player when he gets in.

Flintoff, just dosnt have the qualitys as captain. He should be left to just concentate on his batting and bowling. Strauss would be a good choice.

Bell is getting better all the time. But im worried the middle order will be exposed to the pressure if the openers go early.

Jones is a superb bowler. He caused the Aussies all sorts of problems, with his control of swing. Hope he recovers soon.

good to see they go a few runs on the board, Adelaide could see some big totals.

Agree we miss Simon Jones alot, Harmy is only half the cricketer away from home too. Still think it is all to play for but Eng will need alot a luck, carefully placed cricket ball under Glenn McGraths foot may help.

LOL at the rule changes post

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Originally posted by Ian love how all of a sudden it changes. Ponting could well have ended up looking very stupid there by not enforcing the follow on. I think we did ok 2nd innings, but we were simply left with too much to do from inept bowling. Hoggard hasn't fired in a while now, and harmison is so out of confidence. I think there's a lot of points to come out of this though: we lack the dynamic captaincy of vaughan, the brains to set unusual fields, make unusual bowling changes & generally inspire. Flintoff is not captaincy material. It's too much for him. Strauss captained fine last summer when freddie was injured, so I'd have kept him on, it must have dented his confidence when he needed it most against his worst enemy (warne) Bell has improved, you can't deny that. He's still making some mistakes,but overall isn't too bad. We miss simon jones. big time. If Geraint Jones is a good enough batsman, play him as opener anyway, and drop cook who looks inept against bounce & pace, giving Read the chance to take the gloves at number 7. Michael Holding said it on commentary: Batsmen make runs, bowlers win games, so WHY didn't we pick Panesar & Plunkett, 2 of our real good bowlers Anyway, let's see what happens in Adelaide

yeah, more or less right.

I don't think Ponting should have made them follow-on. After spending a day in the heat its always a risk to send them straight back in, Chennai 2001 anyone? Give the bowlers half a day rest, smart move. There was still plenty of time, if they couldn't bowl England out again the focus shouldn't have gone onto Ponting "why didn't you make them follow on" but rather the bowlers "why couldn't you bowl them out in 2 days".

As for England, Panesar has to play in Adelaide. However (I think I'm somewhat against the grain here) but keep Harmison in the side. Ge'll learn from that and he won't choke again. Seeing you hear "he's underdone" about 1206 times a day, getting him out of the team won't help. Showing confidence in him is the right way to go. He's still an important part of that attack. Somewhere in there there needs to be a different paceman though, I think the attack as it is lacking something (dunno what though).

I think Ponting made the rigth decision. Instead of having to get 350 (which can be done, even by this England team) and then adding a few more on top of that, which coulda been done slowly and then Aust woulda had to come back in and get runs quickly to win - they had too big a target to even hope to get.

Hopefully you follow my logic there, but I think placing a 600 target instead of 350 really changes the approach of batting from the trailing side.

ps. Which of you Adelaide boys are going to the match?

I only scored tickets for day 2, but shall be a good day!!!

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Originally posted by gumble I think Ponting made the rigth decision. Instead of having to get 350 (which can be done, even by this England team) and then adding a few more on top of that, which coulda been done slowly and then Aust woulda had to come back in and get runs quickly to win - they had too big a target to even hope to get. Hopefully you follow my logic there, but I think placing a 600 target instead of 350 really changes the approach of batting from the trailing side.

downside of it is that if harmison or hoggard or someone picked up 3 or 4 quick wickets, they could've ended up gaining this confidence they need & that could've changed the series. As it is, I don't know what changes if any we'll make for friday.

Ben, It's not a temporary lack of form, bar a couple of good days in the pakistan series last july/august, he hasn't done the job for a very long time, and we've been shown what's wrong here, it's an action problem where his front arm is falling away & he's not upright, nor are his legs pumping. Steve simply doesn't bowl enough, so he can't get into rhythm, a lot of this is due to the england policy of few warmups and resting test players from county games (look at stuart clark for why that's wrong) We have got to stand up & be counted, and Harmy needs to do this soon.

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Originally posted by gumble ps. Which of you Adelaide boys are going to the match? I only scored tickets for day 2, but shall be a good day!!!

dude, take a banner or something

My cousins have some tickets, but I don't know which days they're going. My dad was going to go but he's doing the world cup in barbados instead.

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Originally posted by Ian Ben, It's not a temporary lack of form, bar a couple of good days in the pakistan series last july/august, he hasn't done the job for a very long time, and we've been shown what's wrong here, it's an action problem where his front arm is falling away & he's not upright, nor are his legs pumping. Steve simply doesn't bowl enough, so he can't get into rhythm, a lot of this is due to the england policy of few warmups and resting test players from county games (look at stuart clark for why that's wrong) We have got to stand up & be counted, and Harmy needs to do this soon.

fair enough. I knew his action sucked but didn't know he's been crap for a while.

No attendance for me this year, too busy. Unfortunately I'll be able to hear it from where i work so it'll be rubbing it in

on the upside at least I'll be able to follow the scores. Theres a conference I was meant to go to on Sunday monday tuesday, if I had been going to that I couldn't

aussies taking an unchanged lineup

COME ON ENGLAND, COME ON ENGLAND

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Originally posted by PauLie_C COME ON ENGLAND, COME ON ENGLAND

An Argie rooting for England that's a turn up for the books.

I'm a positive thinker, however I have the feeling it's going to be a whitewash the convincts will win the Ashes. Too much seems to be going wrong. I agree with Ian Freddie is not captaincy material.

Ah well. What do say when you see an Aussie? Two pint's of Stella and a bag of peanuts please.

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Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan Ah well. What do say when you see an Aussie? Two pint's of Stella and a bag of peanuts please.

lol

so does anyone have that message tone, from the 3 mobile ad, with ritchie going 'marvellous'? i really want that! if someone has it can you please send it? thanks!

haha id love that too!!

i still think england can turn it around here. hope vaughan comes back soon.

monty has to play!!

Monty play's for my County (Northants) good player. However what did make me laugh was when he claimed to have been racial abused by the crowd it caused controversy in the media, all the Aussies did was call him was a stupid Indian.

Well I'm off to get a 30 Can Slab of VB to have at hand for this one.

I gotta work all first day tho

Hopefully England bat first this time

I just wanna see Hayden and Langer bat.... and then Ponting. A greater top 3? THERE IS NONE!

fuckin disgusting. Fletcher picks the same side, we deserve to lose this.

England won the toss and elected to bat.

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Originally posted by Lloyd England won the toss and elected to bat.

And wow look at them go.

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