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Yeah but being a good Dj comes with extra skills..watching armin chop up Divini and Warning's 4Lb at labour of love in toronto, I thought was one of the best things i've ever heard

Is a DJ that can play instruments a musician?

Only if he utilizes turntables and\or dj technology in a MUSICAL fashion and to their musical potential.

If I'm amazing at drums, and I can't mix for shit, and don't care about phrase matching, harmonic mixing, or even beatmatching...that is NOT being musical with turntables and therefore, qualifies me in the category of NOT being a musician in the realm of DJ'ing. Just a kiss ass who loves dance music and like to pretend or maybe is just learning how to truly be musical behind decks. Nothing wrong with that! But truth is truth.

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Oh yeah, and most house/trance djs produce their own tunes anyways




Thats not entirely true. I'd say a vast majority of DJ's use engineers to produce their tunes

Re: DJ is NO SKILL ???

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Originally posted by Beethoven what the DJ's do in the club? the answer is: MIXING and MIXING. my best friend is a good DJ. he said, to be a good DJ, he should mix well and has a good track selection. a DJ should ACT! What he really means is learn how to smile and use body language to communicate with the crowd. is that all? the answer is: Yes. Anybody can be a DJ. However, DJ is like running. Anyone can run. However, only a few that can be a champion. I respect them. My point is: learning how to be a DJ is far more easy than any other musical intstrument.

I think u want to say that prod. skills > DJing

DJing's continously evoluted

Then many technices
many ideas
& more varity of tools (choices)

So how ur abilities & ideas take them all
TO have a cotinous nice REACTION from the croud ?

DJ is NO SKILL !!!

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Originally posted by Salegon DJ is NO SKILL !!!

LOL !! This is funny !!!

it seem that you are totally agree with me. however, if DJ is NO SKILL, can every DJ voted to be number 1?

This thread is hilarious.

DJ, NO SKILL, GET TO THE CHOPPER, ���HHAhAaAH!

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Originally posted by AndskiSpeed Is a DJ that can play instruments a musician?

yes.

one of them is Paul van Dyk.

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Originally posted by Beethoven LOL !! This is funny !!! it seem that you are totally agree with me. however, if DJ is NO SKILL, can every DJ voted to be number 1?

Wow, you're puking out hilarious posts.

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Originally posted by Beethoven yes. one of them is Paul van Dyk.

Hah. That's like saying if you can make an omelet, you must be a chef because no other than a chef can make one.

Re: DJ is NO SKILL ???

Software is allowing people to think they are musicians. As long as you know your measures and the program, anyone can produce electronic music.

As for DJ's.....they can practically create original-sounding tracks (to some degree) by mixing loops/tracks. Basically, a DJ or a musician has as little or as much "skill" as they personally want to put into their hobby/career.

A piano player can play "Mary Had A Little Lamb" their whole life, or a DJ can be happy with spinning the same set, getting tracks to flow nicely in and out.(whoopdeedoo) OR that piano player can move on to mozart, and that DJ can move on to mixing live, getting 2cdjs and 4 vinyls going at the same time. Who's to say has more skill?
Each has their own levels of skill.

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Software is allowing people to think they are musicians. As long as you know your measures and the program, anyone can produce electronic music.

This is rubbish, if anyone could do it then everyone would. Just because software makes it easier doesn't mean that software makes it easy. Producing good music takes exceptional skill and a very good ear, otherwise you'll just produce banal sh1t and no-one will buy it. It's hard enough to sell good music these days.

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Originally posted by jahnlay This is rubbish, if anyone could do it then everyone would. Just because software makes it easier doesn't mean that software makes it easy. Producing good music takes exceptional skill and a very good ear, otherwise you'll just produce banal sh1t and no-one will buy it. It's hard enough to sell good music these days.

true.

as i said, most of people can run, but only a tiny few that can be a true champion.

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Originally posted by jahnlay This is rubbish, if anyone could do it then everyone would. Just because software makes it easier doesn't mean that software makes it easy. Producing good music takes exceptional skill and a very good ear, otherwise you'll just produce banal sh1t and no-one will buy it. It's hard enough to sell good music these days.

It depends on what you do with it.....obviously there are extremely difficult aspects associated with certain software programs, but there are also very basic ones that can make anyone sound like they know what they're doing.

Also rubbish, GIGO is an old saying in computers and it applies to music too, Garbage In = Garbage Out. There is no software that makes any one sound good, either the person is good and knows what they are doing, or it shows that they're average or bad.

Maybe you just haven't been in music long enough to tell the difference between a good and bad production?

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Originally posted by jahnlay Also rubbish, GIGO is an old saying in computers and it applies to music too, Garbage In = Garbage Out. There is no software that makes any one sound good, either the person is good and knows what they are doing, or it shows that they're average or bad. Maybe you just haven't been in music long enough to tell the difference between a good and bad production?

Take acid for example, extremely basic....you can choose from several loops, put them together and like I said, if you know your basic 4/4 you can throw together a song and it might not sound that bad. When it comes to other programs, yea RIGHT. You need to know the software very well in order to get anything that sounds half-way decent to come out of it.

I have been composing songs for 9 years and playing the piano for 18 years. I have been in music long enough to be able to distinguish good production from bad. I am simply talking about the amount of effort that different programs allow people to put into their productions.

It depends on what you spin also. Like with trance, there isn't much to do but mix intros and outros, but back in the day, me and my friends were all into techno, where the songs were so basic you would do a hell of a lot more. Plus today mixers and shit have effects built in. You used to have to create echos and flangers and shit like that with two records, and it was awesome cuz if you could do it, it was totally original. Better technology has made it easier to do. Not to mention better turntables. It was much harder to mix on the crappy shit that was out 10 years ago.

Andy Moor is a born musician, and as with any truly world class musician they can turn their hand to produce the epitome of amazing in any musical genre they so desire. From learning his first piano piece at the age of five to mastering six musical instruments by the age of eleven, to spinning his first record at the age of thirteen onto rocking the worlds leading festivals in front of tens of thousands of people by the age of twenty one.



Andy Moor is a future hero.

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Originally posted by Beethoven Andy Moor is a future hero.

OMG I thought Tiesto our hero! He play in the OLIMPICS!!!1

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Originally posted by paulandrews OMG I thought Tiesto our hero! He play in the OLIMPICS!!!1

Tiesto is one of the biggest spinner in the world. playing in the OLIMPICS is an OUTSTANDING matter. Of course he is OUR HERO!



I'm not really sure if Tiesto can play any musical instrument.

an EXCELENT DJ must be a musician too. if not, how can they select a great records to play in every performance? how can they produce a great music that has high quality, art and amazing tune? Nice.

I belief, with the proof of his musical production and performance, I do think that Andy Moor is a future hero.

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Originally posted by Beethoven Tiesto is one of the biggest spinner in the world.

I would soooo mount him in my BMW's wheels instead of those small 16" BBS Spinners

the bad thing is...there's 4 wheels and only one Tiest0r fuck

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