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Posted by tribu on Dec-12-2006 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by stren
this is reason enough that you don't deserve to win


Trashtalking your opponent on day 1? And you said you weren't interested in winning


Posted by nchs09 on Dec-12-2006 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by stren
this is reason enough that you don't deserve to win
+b0p!


Posted by dallastar on Dec-12-2006 22:59:



weeeeeeeeeeeee


Posted by Omega_M on Dec-12-2006 23:00:


Posted by dallastar on Dec-12-2006 23:01:

ewwwwww


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-13-2006 00:20:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas
Damn right!



I truly don't have many a competitive bone in my body. I'll be happy just as long as one of us progresses past the third round. Just to keep the coolness factor alive.


Posted by medinaM5 on Dec-13-2006 00:24:

this is to determine who is the most popular in school and who gets to sit with them at lunch


Posted by Rinster on Dec-13-2006 00:28:

nice flash mate!


Posted by RickyM on Dec-13-2006 00:47:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
I truly don't have many a competitive bone in my body. I'll be happy just as long as one of us progresses past the third round.


Bollocks!!!


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Dec-13-2006 01:00:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
I truly don't have many a competitive bone in my body. I'll be happy just as long as one of us progresses past the third round. Just to keep the coolness factor alive.


when you got my bone in your ass your guaranteed to make it past round three baby


Posted by Yohan on Dec-13-2006 02:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
when you got my bone in your ass your guaranteed to make it past round three baby

Your game is not very subtle Karim


Posted by Orbax on Dec-13-2006 02:22:

uhhh wtf is Masonious for IGK humor????

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...light=just+iron


Posted by tribu on Dec-13-2006 03:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
uhhh wtf is Masonious for IGK humor????

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...light=just+iron


that thread single handedly drove me to pick the name


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Dec-13-2006 05:18:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
Your game is not very subtle Karim





Posted by Arbiter on Dec-13-2006 05:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
While I do not begrudge you for what you have posted I must challenge you. I trust you understand this. As I stated earlier, this will be a difficult decision for many and your use of misleading and unsubstantiated negative campainging against me will only muddy the waters. Please, do not insult those you seek to gain support from, it is unbecoming of a person as dignified as you and shows a great deal less character then we all know you possess. Most disturbingly, your tactics show you have a very low view of the c0r, which as someone who vehamently loves and values this community I find reprehensible.


I absolutely do not intend to run a negative campaign and, accordingly, I'm not going to dispute any of the statements you have made in your defense. But despite the fact we have many of the same aims, there are clearly some big differences as well that I think voters need to be aware of.

In your own words, you believe that "this is a community that is quite capable of enforcing it's own standards." Now, that's a very noble sentiment, and I wish that I could share it. Unfortunately, it's also a failed strategy. Over the past four years these "standards" have steadily dropped precisely because they haven't been enforced. Many members with high standards have left when faced with the deluge of pointless threads and failed attempts at humor, and for the most part their place has been taken by members with far lower standards, who have only contributed further to the problem.

A lot of good people have worked against this trend for years. I've worked against it. Many of the members with high standards have worked against it. And many of our past and present moderators have worked against it. But it hasn't been enough, and it's not the fault of those people who have put their time and effort into raising the bar here in the chill out room instead of lowering it, it's simply the fact that the people who are lowering the standards have far more collective time on their hands. Do I have a low view of those individuals who've undermined our efforts to raise standards here in the COR? Of course I do: I believe that anyone who genuinely valued this community and, in particular who had seen it change over the course of the last half-decade would regard those who they see as having caused it to deteriorate with a certain degree of contempt.

If the chill out room were really capable of enforcing reasonable standards, then I must ask why our chill out room moderators and former moderators - long standing and generally respected members of the community - are forced to time and time again write posts such as these:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=387249
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=378734
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=378769

You say that "this is a polling of the c0r to determine who they believe best exemplifies what we as the c0r value." I say that we need to re-evaluate what we really value most. I say that we need to raise standards instead of letting them continue to decline.

When I ask my fellow tranceaddicts to vote for me, I am not just asking them to vote for me as an individual. I'm asking them to vote for a change of direction, for new standards and new values - or, I should say, for the old standards and old values we once enjoyed here in this forum. Will voting for me erase our problems or magically cause us to revert to our former glory? Certainly not. But it will send a powerful message that there is still a strong desire out there in this community to raise standards - because that is the true message of my campaign. If nothing else, I think that's a start - something we can build upon. I don't believe that a vote for you, Moral Hazard, would be a bad vote because of any failing of yours, I believe it would be a bad vote because it would represent a failure to take advantage of the opportunity to send that message.


Posted by mezzir on Dec-13-2006 06:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
shortened to avoid being annoying


well put again dude
i think i say that to everything you say though :/
on behalf of both sunsnail and i, i would like to both formally and cordially invite you to the mezz/snail party! we would like to additionally find a member of the let this division continue (as a roll call) division, and welcome your input, should you choose to this invitation. please let us know at your earliest convienence.
cheers - mezzir


Posted by RandomGirl on Dec-13-2006 10:19:

MY PICTURE AND STATEMENT HAVE BEEN UPDATED!!!!!!!!!

Woot


Posted by stren on Dec-13-2006 12:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter


Even if you win, you're just one man against the army of senseless droids.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Dec-13-2006 12:52:

quote:
Originally posted by stren
this is reason enough that you don't deserve to win


Hear here!


Posted by Moral Hazard on Dec-13-2006 13:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
When I ask my fellow tranceaddicts to vote for me, I am not just asking them to vote for me as an individual. I'm asking them to vote for a change of direction, for new standards and new values - or, I should say, for the old standards and old values we once enjoyed here in this forum. Will voting for me erase our problems or magically cause us to revert to our former glory? Certainly not. But it will send a powerful message that there is still a strong desire out there in this community to raise standards - because that is the true message of my campaign.


While I recognize that there are relatively more, or at least more vocal, trolls and other undesirables in the c0r I think that you have taken the wrong view of things. What makes the c0r great is the randomness of this place. It is an area where anything is fair game. At any one time there can be thoughtful discussions on Platonic virtues along side a collection of entertaining stories from the clubbing world, women being catty about which of them has the most questionable morality, and some drunk or stoned person posting the ill-conceived notions flooding their minds while the rest of us mock them relentlessly. This is the magic of the c0r! There is something for everyone at all times. There is a such an unstructured, free form, chaotic collection of people, opinions, and expression here. This is the glory of this place, yet you see it as the downfall? Yes, there will be those that we'd rather not listen to but shutting them down would take away a little bit of the joy we all find here. We don't need new standards and values, we need to simply embrace what we already have. We don't need a leader who will sit in a lofty ivory tower and tell us what we're doing wrong, we need one who will embody the best of all aspects of the c0r. Someone who shows it is possible to have all the chaos we love about this place while still maintaining a level of decorum that shows respect for all our members. That is what I can provide, someone who is equally well equiped for the intellectual threads, drunk threads, party threads, and random stupidity threads. A reflection of what the c0r means and what we love about it.


Posted by Frenchie on Dec-13-2006 13:15:

I c0r.


Posted by Ivand on Dec-13-2006 13:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
While I recognize that there are relatively more, or at least more vocal, trolls and other undesirables in the c0r I think that you have taken the wrong view of things. What makes the c0r great is the randomness of this place. It is an area where anything is fair game. At any one time there can be thoughtful discussions on Platonic virtues along side a collection of entertaining stories from the clubbing world, women being catty about which of them has the most questionable morality, and some drunk or stoned person posting the ill-conceived notions flooding their minds while the rest of us mock them relentlessly. This is the magic of the c0r! There is something for everyone at all times. There is a such an unstructured, free form, chaotic collection of people, opinions, and expression here. This is the glory of this place, yet you see it as the downfall? Yes, there will be those that we'd rather not listen to but shutting them down would take away a little bit of the joy we all find here. We don't need new standards and values, we need to simply embrace what we already have. We don't need a leader who will sit in a lofty ivory tower and tell us what we're doing wrong, we need one who will embody the best of all aspects of the c0r. Someone who shows it is possible to have all the chaos we love about this place while still maintaining a level of decorum that shows respect for all our members. That is what I can provide, someone who is equally well equiped for the intellectual threads, drunk threads, party threads, and random stupidity threads. A reflection of what the c0r means and what we love about it.



you've got my vote

A vote for Arbiter is a vote for changing the essence of the c0r, a vote for you is a vote for respect

vote Moral Hazard.


Posted by eROs.au on Dec-13-2006 13:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Ivand

vote Moral Hazard.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Dec-13-2006 13:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Ivand
you've got my vote

A vote for Arbiter is a vote for changing the essence of the c0r, a vote for you is a vote for respect

vote Moral Hazard.


Thank you, my friend. I don't think I could have put it so succinctly.


Posted by Slylee on Dec-13-2006 14:31:

quote:
Originally posted by stren
YOU are annoying




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