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Originally posted by jon jon what?

whoa...totally didn't even finish that sentence off! oops

And yes, DJ Almanac is required. I ordered my 2007 copy yesterday.

Most of Toronto's electronic scene loves the HARD HOUSE, BANG BANG! BOOM BOOM! and for that reason i think that most believe DJs who do not perform to such expectations are shit. I say Mark Oliver is the most overrated DJ in the Toronto scene (no consistency in his mixing), while Tiesto is the most overrated in the world, he just doesnt care anymore. Others like Digweed and Sasha are really good, their music isnt HARD, but takes u through a journey, and their mixing is flawless..just cuz progressive isnt ur thing doesnt mean u should criticize legends who shaped this music scene over time

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Originally posted by Jaineration to add to the Danny Howells debate... 1-held an abolsute 80's party with Lee Burridge at a Bar (not a club on the first night of the conference) no beats, no mash-ups, just straight 80's...no bubble gum either...the good stuff...Falco, Orchestral Manouvers in The Dark, The Fixx, XTC and much more..the vibe was awesome, and the egos were put aisde..great party!

STFU!!
That is fuckin AWESOME (big 80s fan here)

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Originally posted by mdabat Most of Toronto's electronic scene loves the HARD HOUSE, BANG BANG! BOOM BOOM!

I may be new to the house scene, but most people in TO loving hard house? I don't think so.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* I may be new to the house scene, but most people in TO loving hard house? I don't think so.

No, but the popular Toronto house sound is hard and fast.

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Originally posted by mdabat Most of Toronto's electronic scene loves the HARD HOUSE,

Ummmmm, NO

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Originally posted by The Highroller No, but the popular Toronto house sound is hard and fast.

Party house tunes get boring well fast though.

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Originally posted by The Highroller No, but the popular Toronto house sound is hard and fast.

Ahhh...I see.

Armin.

I don't think I've ever been impressed by anything he's done.

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Originally posted by EvilTree Party house tunes get boring well fast though.

In 2005, I would agree that the Toronto sound got boring quickly, but I found in 2007, especially in the latter half, Nathan Barato and Carlo Lio have been pushing the once narrow boundaries of the Toronto sound. Although it may still be hard and fast, it's a a lot more forward thinking.

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Originally posted by TheVrk Ummmmm, NO

I respect ur opinion, but thats the image i get from the scene here, whenever im at the guv i hear mark oliver destroying the speakers with his music, his set after above&beyond was awful! goes from trance to progressive house, back to trance, then hard house and hardcore..i go to This is London and i see some sketched out person jumping up and down with a paper that says HARDER on it, and everyone around him is complaining that the music is not hard enough..thats the vibe i get.

No one really gives credit to DJs who dont go with that style, Jeff Milligan for example is a very talented Toronto DJ whos more popular outside of Canada than he is here..why?? cuz he spins minimal and some tech (on 4 decks too)..and what are party house tunes? lol

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Originally posted by mdabat I respect ur opinion, but thats the image i get from the scene here,

I misunderstood the context of the post.
I took it as what edm fans in general in TO prefer, as opposed to the actual style local DJs spun. My bad

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Originally posted by TheVrk I think this applies to ANY DJ, let alone someone with a sound as diverse and intricate as Howells.

Danny Howells moreso than 99% of the DJ's out there. Just listen to his 24:7 cd, Choice, EM 2002, GU027. His versatility is second to none.

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Jain said it best. Those 2 are prime examples of why he's better than everybody else (cept for Burridge). I'd kill to be at that 80's party

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Originally posted by The Highroller but I found in 2007, especially in the latter half,

You've been to the future??

lol little g travels through space and time seeking out the best Behrouz sets...

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Originally posted by The Highroller In 2005, I would agree that the Toronto sound got boring quickly, but I found in 2007, especially in the latter half, Nathan Barato and Carlo Lio have been pushing the once narrow boundaries of the Toronto sound. Although it may still be hard and fast, it's a a lot more forward thinking.

I concur. Saw Carlo a few nights ago in St. Catharines and I was very impressed with him. He has succesfully managed to create his own, unique sound. Although it may not be my sound of choice, it's fresh, and he's pushing it which imo deserves all the respect in the world. Same goes for Nathan. Kudos fellas.

You are all ridiculous people

I'd like to add one more...

Sander Van Doorn. Way too much hype for this dude...wasn't impressed the last time he was here. Sure, my opinion is biased in terms of selection, because I'm not the biggest fan of tech-trance, but his mixing as well as programming I found to be pretty mediocre. My opinion. Eat it with a spoon if you must.

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Originally posted by exstasie I <3 my Tiesto

you must be new to this "scene" then.

This topic screams an endless debate.

In order to fully and thoroughly critique a DJ you must listen to that specific DJ for quite a lengthly period... years of course. This would require one to attend many live events as well as induldge in many other compiliations and livesets from around the globe to see how the DJ spins throughout the rest of the planet in order to pass judgement on what is and what isn't "Over-rated". You must understand what a DJ might play here in North America may be completely different than other continents. The DJ knows (or should know) to carefully select a track listing for a specific crowd. Secondly, you must critique the DJ on 4 major levels. Beatmatching & Technicalities, Track Selection, Programming & Flow and of course Crowd Interaction. If the DJ succeeds the majority of the time in most if not all categories throughout your clubbing career then over-rated they are not. The fact remains that a DJ's style will never stay the same and just because that specific DJ progresses and evolves over time hardly means they become Over-Rated.. but to sucessfully critique a DJ unbiasedly even if their style has changed becomes the key factor in deciphering who is and is not Over-Rated.

My 2 Pennies.

anyone that calls Danny Howells overrated doesn't know what they're talking about.

Also, as a side note, I've witnessed it many times where intl DJs take it easy in Toronto and spin like absolute shit - probably because they know the majority of the crowd will drool over whatever is given to them (kinda like our hockey team) - but somehow they go on to play great sets elsewhere the next night.

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Originally posted by Swamper Also, as a side note, I've witnessed it many times where intl DJs take it easy in Toronto and spin like absolute shit - probably because they know the majority of the crowd will drool over whatever is given to them (kinda like our hockey team) - but somehow they go on to play great sets elsewhere the next night.

Eg. Toronto->Montreal.

Happens way too often. But the crowds are such tools here that a DJ can afford to play bad cause everybody will eat it up anyways, like you said.

^^ damn right Del. perfect example of that was Armin last year. he sucked big time at Decadence and absolutely killed it at BeB a few days after. like WTF!!

edit. lol you beat me to it peter

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Originally posted by Tordan ^^ damn right Del. perfect example of that was Armin last year. he sucked big time at Decadence and absolutely killed it at BeB a few days after. like WTF!! edit. lol you beat me to it peter

I think we need to have a DJ Idol.....all the top DJs spin off....winner take all.

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