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These kind of tragic events seem to be happening all to often!!!
When our parents were in school back in the 50, 60 and 70's shootings like this didnt occur.
What has happened to this countries youth since the beginning of the 80's?

Just a guess, but I have the feeling as soon as they identify the shooter the investigation will turn up an Xbox360 with Halo 2, Gears of War, Crackdown or any first person shooter for that matter. Not because the games have anything to do with the crime itself, but because someone will use it for their personal politcal agenda. What do you all think?

I hope that people are going to stop scapegoating entertainment for the real underlying problem. That guns are far to easy to obtain in this country. I think there is something wrong when I can walk into a WalMart special order a small arsenal of semi-automatic rifles, lazer scopes, 5 or 6 boxes of ammo for each gun, tonights dinner, a video game, new CD along with toilet paper and chapstick.

Just M2C

My heart goes out to the victims and their families.

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Originally posted by slkvin I hope that people are going to stop scapegoating entertainment for the real underlying problem. That guns are far to easy to obtain in this country. I think there is something wrong when I can walk into a WalMart special order a small arsenal of semi-automatic rifles, lazer scopes, 5 or 6 boxes of ammo for each gun, tonights dinner, a video game, new CD along with toilet paper and chapstick. Just M2C

Well I'm glad you've identified the real underlying problem for us. It's not that we have people who are so disturbed that they choose to go on a killing spree, the real problem is how easily they can get ahold of guns!

Wait, what did you say about someone using it for their own personal political agenda?

this is honestly horrible.

it actually made me sick to my stomach at work today.

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Originally posted by slkvin ...back in the 50, 60 and 70's shootings like this didnt occur. ... I hope that people are going to stop scapegoating entertainment for the real underlying problem. That guns are far to easy to obtain in this country.

Strangely enough, such shootings occurred far less often when guns were far easier to obtain.

Not to assert the inverse of what you are asserting; I seriously doubt that the two factors are related in any strong way.

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Originally posted by Nickerous Hey guys, I'm student at VT and so far this is what I've gathered: The shooter was a student from Radford, another university about 20 minutes away looking for his girlfriend. The first shooting happened about 600 feet from my dorm. Luckily everyone I have been able to contact is not hurt. At about 10AM EST, he went into an academic building and killed over 30 people, some lined up execution style. I slept through my first class so I never made it to class. I did talk to my friend who was in the class that I slept through. She said that they held the students in the building for a few hours and they could hear the gunshots. What a horrible tragedy.

Uhh. That's absolutely terrible. I'm glad you're okay, though. My heart goes out to your classmates and their families.

wait, so he was looking for his girlfriend?

wtf did she do?

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Originally posted by mezzir source? also, fred phelps is going to picket their funerals

Considering one of the Phelps' daughters in my class knew about this after we got done with lab this morning, I'd say the chances are highly probable. However, we've got a few big exams coming up, so she may not make it personally.

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Originally posted by slkvin When our parents were in school back in the 50, 60 and 70's shootings like this didnt occur.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Considering one of the Phelps' daughters in my class knew about this after we got done with lab this morning, I'd say the chances are highly probable. However, we've got a few big exams coming up, so she may not make it personally.

You have one of the Phelps daughters in one of your classes?

That must be quite an experience.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Well I'm glad you've identified the real underlying problem for us. It's not that we have people who are so disturbed that they choose to go on a killing spree, the real problem is how easily they can get ahold of guns!

Arbiter I totally agree with you I think that there are far to many disturbed young people. The question is why? There is an empidemic of violent youth. It the combination of easily available weapons and disturbed people that causes these kind of things! Should have been more clear in my post.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

Well, they were less common.

In any case, blaming "easy access to guns" is about as productive as blaming the people of New Orleans for living in an area where flood water has "easy access" to their homes and businesses.

Jack Thompson has been all over Fox News this afternoon saying that the shooter was trained by video games.

Leave it a prick like that to take every opportunity to capatalize off a tragedy.

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Originally posted by RJT Jack Thompson has been all over Fox News this afternoon saying that the shooter was trained by video games. Leave it a prick like that to take every opportunity to capatalize off a tragedy.

next they'll be blaming manson again.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Considering one of the Phelps' daughters in my class...

What's your Paypal info? I want to wire you $50 to punch her in the face.

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Originally posted by squirrelly next they'll be blaming manson again.

Personally I think the shooter was just following the example of Dick Cheney.

How the news media thinks it's even OK to speculate about details like that is beyond me - especially as early as it was occurring, when relatively little was known (as if there is a ton known now, right?) about the nature of the shootings.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles You have one of the Phelps daughters in one of your classes? That must be quite an experience.

Indeed. Strange gal. Pretty nice, however, and she never discusses any personal stuff in class (nor would I ever care to ask). No excuse for what she and her family does, mind you, but I keep the school person separate from the personal one so we can all get through the program (well, actually all I care about is me getting through the damn program). But I digress.

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Originally posted by RJT How the news media thinks it's even OK to speculate about details like that is beyond me - especially as early as it was occurring, when relatively little was known (as if there is a ton known now, right?) about the nature of the shootings.

Check the press conference on CNN's Pipeline I linked to a few posts back. It's going on right now and the media is doing an absolute shitload of assuming. The officer and the VT president have to keep telling them to quit making assumptions.

It's quite simple. Americans allowed guns to be [almost] freely available. This sort of thing is bound to happen.

There are nutters everwhere in the world, and if guns are freely avalable then this just exacerbates the issue.

Like I said, it was bound to happen [again].

It will happen again in the future.

I'm sorry to say that it's America's (as a nation) fault.

Jarv

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Originally posted by Arbiter Personally I think the shooter was just following the example of Dick Cheney.

oh I shouldn't laugh but I did.

notice shoot outs have been on college campus' lately? I don't even want to go on campus today.

I'm already always scared of gunmen [I work in a bank] I don't want to be scared to go to SCHOOL.

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Originally posted by idoru Check the press conference on CNN's Pipeline I linked to a few posts back. It's going on right now and the media is doing an absolute shitload of assuming. The officer and the VT president have to keep telling them to quit making assumptions.

The media's making assumptions?

Wow, there's a shocker.

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Originally posted by RJT How the news media thinks it's even OK to speculate about details like that is beyond me - especially as early as it was occurring, when relatively little was known (as if there is a ton known now, right?) about the nature of the shootings.

Ratings rule, not evidence.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 The media's making assumptions? Wow, there's a shocker.

There's logical assumptions that the media makes (which I can find suitable for many situations), however these are totally inept, senseless assumptions that I'm talking about.

Initially when I read posts like Jarv's, I get fairly upset, because I'm an American who actively supports more gun control.

But even though broad generalizations like that aren't entirely true, it is our policy that allows things like this to occur - and our responsibility as Americans to vote in order to say "We don't want this kind of shit happening in our country."

Voting doesn't happen, and these archaic, 18th century ideals remain, and we have to deal with shit like this happening and the majority of idiots here wondering "Why?" and "How?" when the answers seem pretty clear.

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Originally posted by RJT ...and these archaic, 18th century ideals...

What do you mean by this?

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