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Ok going to be posted in the morning for definite, all the results are in, it's just taking me longer than I thought to put it all together!
Remix1
JUDGE 1
Good start with the intro, could do with a bit more drive...the plucked melody is nice too, but very simple and needs more FX.
At 2:20 � pads are a welcome addition as it was starting to get a little boring...again I notice that there needs to be more drive, percussion is way too basic. The lead sound is quite true to the original, but could maybe stand out more...at 4:57 � starting to get bored again, but the other lead that the remixer brings in is very nice, and should have been in earlier. The breakbeat doesn't work at
all here really.
Overall the track needs more variation, and although simple and quite mellow sounding doesn't really hold my attention.
Creativity: 6
Melody: 7
Overall Sound: 6
Arrangement: 6
Overall: 26
JUDGE 2
Creativity: 7
This has a kinda proggy melodic sound to it..
Overall Sound: 4
It doesnt sound so bad overall, but some percussion elements like the open hat didnt sound too good.
And the bass is not as defined as i would wish for.
Melody: 7
I think the melody works well here..
Arrangment: 6
Pretty basic arrangement with a little breakbeat section.
Overall Score: 24
JUDGE 3
Creativity 5
Overall Sound 6
Melody 4
Arrangment: 6
total score 21/40
comment: Not horrible but lacks on the creative side & while there is a sub melody, there isn't a lot of of difference from the original track in the actual sound of it. Composition is ok during breakbeat section but otherwise not overly inspiring. Let down also by lack of percussive work.
JUDGE 4
Creativity 7
Overall Sound 6
Melody 6
Arrangement 7
TOTAL 26
OVERALL MARK:
97/160 = 61%
REMIX 2
JUDGE 1
Off to a good start here, these stab chords are great...a good bassline here too, slots nicely under everything else. This one is developing quite fast, plenty of variation even in the buiildup. Kick is cutting through the mix, it's just maybe slightly too loud...seems to be the thing these days! Nice transition into the breakdown...Breakdown is nothing spectacular, sounds quite empty, could do with a nice low pad to widen things up. Breakbeat is ok...things are starting to pick up again nicely as the main section is built up to. When it all kicks in things are sounding good although the kickdrum is still a little overpowering and takes over the mix. Percussion is simple, but works well.
Overall I enjoyed this remix, it is well produced if a little empty sounding, and could be competitive in this competition...
Creativity: 7
Melody: 7
Overall Sound: 8
Arrangement: 8
Overall: 30
JUDGE 2
Creativity 8
Overall Sound 6
Melody 7
Arrangment: 9
total score 30/40
comment. Very nice adaptation. By making it both upbeat and melodic it adds a lot to the tune, allowing the main melody not to need to be changed because not as much emphasis is placed on it as the first remix.. Seems to work really well with the only downside being the overall mastering which is a tad loud, nothing else.
JUDGE 3
Remix 2
Creativity: 6
Pretty basic "uplifting trance" sound, The piano works really well in the break along with the breakbeat.
Overall Sound: 7
It sounds alright, mudded at places like the bass, and the lead is kinda wet.
Melody: 7
Great piano...
Arrangment: 6
I like the stabs in the outro and intro
Overall Score: 26
JUDGE 4
Creativity 8
Overall Sound 7
Melody 7
Arrangement 8
TOTAL 30
OVERALL TOTAL MARK:
116 / 160 = 73%
REMIX 3
JUDGE 1
This is an energetic start to say the least, the rolling bassline is great, percs are tight sounding. The melody coming in could do with some equalizing, as could the pad, they have way too many low-mids, so much that the bass and kick are drowned out. Nice bass changes here, the pads are good sounding and the melody sounds great....the choir pads really make a difference here.
At the breakdown � I like this one, the lead sound is a great choice, very like the original. Pads are very warm.
Buildup is quite strong, and the main part is well produced, although the mixing is average. Too many sounds with low mids fighting for space, and it becomes a bit muddy.
Overall I enjoyed the warm sounds here, although the track needs a bit of work mixing wise, some elements just take over the track completely. The track also clips frequently.
Creativity: 6
Melody: 8
Overall Sound: 6
Arrangement: 7
Overall: 27
JUDGE 2
Creativity 7
Overall Sound 4
Melody 7
Arrangment 7
Total Score 25/40
comment: subtle but nice take on the melody, and arranged nicely. the big letdown is simply the overall sound, the kick is far too quiet, especially against the clap and the lead/pads jump out way more than the other elements. Perhaps lowering the volume of those to allow the kick & bassline opportunity to strengthen the track would make all the difference.
JUDGE 3
Creativity: 5
Wont get any points for creativity here..
Overall Sound: 7
Bass is muddy and the mix is loud, but overall full sounding.
Melody: 6
Very basic interp of the melody.
Arrangment: 6
Overall Score: 24
JUDGE 4
Creativity 8
Overall Sound 8
Melody 8
Arrangement 9
TOTAL 33
FINAL MARKS:
109/160 = 68%
REMIX 4
JUDGE 1
Great intro, sounds like this remixer really knows what they are doing...all the elements in the mix have their own space...a good transition into the breakdown. That guitar sound needs fattened up a little, and could do with some warmth. The pads work well here, the breakdown is warm and harmonious.
In the main part now, and the bass is just fantastic, it slots perfectly under the melodic elements, the mixing here is almost flawless...the main section could maybe be extended a little, it's all over a bit quickly. This sounds like the sort of stuff released on Anjunabeats.
Overall a very competitive remix here, and great mixing skills once again.
Creativity: 7
Melody: 8
Overall Sound: 10
Arrangement: 8
Overall: 33
JUDGE 2
Creativity 8
Overall Sound 7
Melody 8
Arrangment: 9
total score 32/40
JUDGE 3
Did Above & Beyond enter this remix contest ?.
Creativity: 8
The production is very tight, and has a full sound to it, those pads are very nice and warm.
Although not very original, there are still some subtle details to be heard in this mix.
Overall Sound: 10
Simply nothing to pick on, it sounds great.
Melody: 8
Great implementation of the melody, and loving pads.
Arrangment: 6
Not many surprises here.
Overall Score: 32
JUDGE 4
Creativity 9
Overall Sound 8
Melody 9
Arrangement 9
TOTAL 35
FINAL SCORE:
132/160 = 83%
REMIX 5
JUDGE 1
Great bassline this remix has here, and I like the notes it follows too, this remix seems a little darker...it's great to hear something difference. I'm missing some original sounding percussion which would compliment the mix. This producer has everything sounding nice and tight here.
Now the breakdown....a strange choice of lead, with the distorted square sound...although it fits in with the vibe of the track.
I like what this remixer has done here, they've taken a happy major key melody and transformed it into a dark brooding track. The track needs more energy after the breakdown...although the overall mixing sound is good.
It's nice to hear an original sounding track, although I think the remix could do with a little more drive, through more interesting percussion perhaps. A competitive remix nonetheless.
Creativity: 9
Melody: 7
Overall Sound 8:
Arrangement: 7
Overall: 31
JUDGE 2
Creativity 9
Overall Sound 8
Melody 8
Arrangment: 9
total score 34/40
Brilliant. Something a bit different for the old teeth to get into. Has a real feel of the Condor sound from 1999/2000 but it sounds fresh. Creative Juices were obviously floating here.
JUDGE 3
Creativity: 9
Im personally really enjoying this sounds, stands very much out from the other remixes. psyish kinda sounding, and the part at 5:30 is really enjoyable.
Overall Sound: 8
Sounds tight, without trying too hard.. simple, and effective.
Melody: 8
Yes, you manage to make an basic uplifting melody sound rather dark.
Arrangment: 7
Nice arrangment, but with a lack of effects.. and depth at places.
Overall Score: 32
JUDGE 4
Creativity 7
Overall Sound 6
Melody 6
Arrangement 7
TOTAL 26
FINAL MARK
123/160 = 77%
REMIX 6
JUDGE 1
Different sounding kick here, I quite like it. The remixer is getting a very wide and warm sound here...very short intro, the breakdown starts at 1:20. Breakdown is perhaps a little empty sounding, but the sounds are nice...into the main section, and the track goes limp completely...there is no drive at all and the bassline is doing nothing...plus that melody that sounds like a phone ringing in the background is getting quite irritating....it's quite disappointing after a promising intro. Also the remix is too short, but at least the overall sound is clear.
Creativity: 6
Melody: 6
Overall Sound: 7
Arrangement: 6
Overall 25
JUDGE 2
Creativity 7
Overall Sound 4
Melody 6
Arrangment 6
total score 23/40
comment. Subtle. I can hear what's trying to be done, but it doesn't quite work. Totally lacking bassline and the kick doesn't seem to suit, but it's a good attempt to do something a little bit more downbeat with it than some of the other remixes. Effort appreciated but the lead really doesn't work in this case.
JUDGE 3
Starts out with recognisable Chicane plucks..
Creativity: 5
Apart from the Chicane plucks it sounds pretty lacking.
Overall Sound: 4
Oh.. that lead is very loud, have to turn the volume down.
Melody: 7
I will give u a plus for thise Chicane plucks..
Arrangment: 4
This track sounds rushed and unfinished..
Overall: 20
JUDGE 4
Creativity 7
Overall Sound 7
Melody 8
Arrangement 7
TOTAL 29
FINAL MARKS
97/160 = 61%
REMIX 7
JUDGE 1
A promising start here in the intro, the sawtooth does it's job ok. The bassline slots in nicely under the track. That lead melody in the breakdown is in desparate need of some delay, it's far too static...it's actually ruining the track when it hits the main part. The track is a little limp here as well, drive is non existent, very 'dance floor clearing'. Hold on...the track just stops all of a sudden...not good at all. Too short.
Creativity: 6
Melody: 7
Overall Sound: 7
Arrangement: 5
Overall: 25
JUDGE 2
Creativity 6
Overall Sound 6
Melody 6
Arrangment 1
total score 19/40
Where did the rest of it go? It's way way way way way too short. Even the offspring of a midget & a Leprechaun would bully it for being so short. Really let down by this as it's hard to judge and a whole category is gone at least.
JUDGE 3
Creativity: 5
Very typical sound.
Overall Sound: 6
Sounds full enough.
Melody: 6
Typical sounding melodic wise
Arrangment 6:
Track is way too short.
Overall 23
JUDGE 4
Creativity 8
Overall Sound 8
Melody 8
Arrangement 5
TOTAL 29
FINAL MARK
96/160 = 60%
REMIX 8
JUDGE 1
Haha straight into it here...not much of an intro, but it sounds great...those rhodes are excellent...it's also the first track I've heard to have really good percs. Those swishes are excellent too. The drive is excellent too.
Hmmm not much of a transition into the breakdown, I'm starting to think that this remixer started the remix the day before! Breakdown is a little bare with just a sawtooth.
It comes together ok in the main section, the remixer has mixed it well, although that maybe isn't that impressive as there's very few melodic elements, the track is crying out for some pads!
The drive that was in the intro has all but disappeared...back to the outro, with those great sounding rhodes...hmm another very short track.
It's a shame for this one, as it started off very promising, then just went rather limp at the end.
Creativity: 7
Melody: 6
Overall Sound: 7
Arrangement: 5
Overall 25.
JUDGE 2
Creativity 8
Overall Sound 9
Melody 8
Arrangment 7
total 31/40
comment: very nice use of a bit of acid, adds a subtle change to the simple melody. Mastering seems spot on, kick & percussion seems to sit with the track rather than sound out of place either too quiet or too loud. Nice effort, only real gripe would be the length is a tiny bit short for mixing out.
JUDGE 3
Creativity: 7
Plus for the intro and outro sequence.
Overall Sound: 8
The intro and outro of this track sounds extremely tight!
Melody: 5
Not much new to listen here, pretty basic lead sound, and melody.
Arrangment: 6
The track started really tight, but ended up pretty basic, and is very short as well. This one really had a winner potential.
But the execution of the main part was too weak unfortunately.
Overall Score:26
JUDGE 4:
Creativity 8
Overall Sound 8
Melody 7
Arrangement 8
TOTAL 31
FINAL SCORE:
113/160 = 71%
REMIX 9
JUDGE 1
A rather thumping kick here, not really my cup of tea...the remixer is bringing in a bassline with too much reverb on it. There are some very strange percs here too.
Soundforge is going into clip overload here, this remixer is pushing far too many loud sounds into his remix...the track is distorting like crazy...I'm trying to find some positives for this remix, I suppose some of the sounds are original, and the square lead is also good.
Overall it's way too loud and distorted, soundforge actually crashed twice trying to load the amount of clips in this track....
Creativity: 7
Melody: 6
Overall Sound: 4
Arrangment: 5
Overall 22.
JUDGE 2
Creativity 5
Overall Sound 5
Melody 5
Arrangment:: 5
total score 20/40
comment. doesn't work at all soundwise. The kick is too loud, the lead synth gives me the shits & I've had to turn it down in volume 4 times already. Percussion has a kind of err on the side of lieb, without being exact, but it can't save the track I'm afraid.
JUDGE 3
Creativity: 7
Cool drums, crazy sounds
Overall Sound: 3
Extremely loud mix and clipping. with loads of sharp sounds
Melody: 5
Not much interesting here. lead sounds muddy.
Arrangment: 6
Not many surprises.
Overall score: 21
JUDGE 4
Creativity 8
Overall Sound 4
Melody 7
Arrangement 8
TOTAL 27
FINAL MARKS
90/160 56%
(9)REMIX 9 - DAEUS REMIX = 56%
(8)REMIX 7 - FABRIX EUROPA REMIX = 60%
(7)REMIX 1 - ANDREW ANDERSON REMIX = 61%
(-)REMIX 6 - YOU FALLEN ONES REMIX = 61%
(5)REMIX 3 - TERRY BARKER REMIX = 68%
(4)REMIX 8 - SMALL RIVER REMIX = 71%
(3)REMIX 2 - DER MYSTIK REMIX = 73%
(2)REMIX 5 - 350FQ REMIX = 76%
(1)REMIX 4 - ELDRITCH REMIX = 83%
So well done to Eldritch, bit of a unanimous vote to win the competition...if you could send me a PM with your e-mail address Eldritch...here are the links to the remixes:
http://www.rickymusic.co.uk/taremixcontest07/
judge 4 was as bit of a lazy bugger no feedback 
Thanks Judges and RickyM for organising.
Heres my take...
[Remix 9 - Daeus]
My remix 9.
I knew I wouldnt be getting a very high score as my tune got louder and louder throughout production until my new speakers blew up (I'm still getting used to proper EQ'ing) and sorry for crashing your soundforge Judge 1. Then I ran out of time and realised I hadnt even put the main Halycon melody in but I spent so much time on it I had to submit it even if it didnt get rated.
I enjoyed making it allot and even found I went off and a tangent with that wicked Bassline which inspired me to produce that random tune that comes in before I even touch the Halycon part lol.
I wanted to add an epic feel with the bongo sounds but needed more work on the perc in general I think.
I loved using part of the tune in a loop for buildup at 4:30 and I hope everybody liked the birds with the sweep for atmosphere.
Gotta love the birds.
Heres my take on the other tunes anyway.....
ANDREW ANDERSON REMIX 1
[Times Listened to during live review: 4 ]
Heh did I here an owl in this remix - gotta love the birds.
There's no engery in the bassline and the percs never changed after they get going.
The pad is massive and could be used with a driving synth to make ace.
At 6:00 the plucking is wicked, this should have been used to drive the entire tune, ashame its just at the end.
DER MYSTIK REMIX 2
[Times Listened to during live review: 3 ]
Nice hard kick, nice key at the start, quite a clicky bassline, oh man thats a nice bassline when it drops haha.
Quite a weak halycon bit in the background with tho but ill let that off for now.
Woh quite a big pad that comes in.
I love that whaling noise you hear twice before the main break buildup.
Still sounds good at 1:50 due to that amazing bassline I just let everything else off because of that.
Oh is that the tune finished (goes v quiet)..NO lol
Piano...NICE, with a choir...and nice pad, Piano still ace, some nice FX oh and a break..all sounds good.
The main synth sounds alright..abit weak again, amazing reverb but not much to it...nice take on the melody..this remixer has keyboard skills I think.
Not a bad buildup but could have been more hard-hitting ti then go back in to that wicked bassline.
TERRY BARKER REMIX 3
[Times Listened to during live review: 3 ]
Thought it was hard house at the beginning, fast start anyway with nice rough bassline.
Nice intro to the first sound of the Halycon Melody....Pad sounds nice fading in, pad sounds wicked just to emphasise that.
The first Halycon sound synth that came in stays the same as the pad builds up..I wish this could sound phatter to compliment the amazing Pad.
Woh, NICE pluck, spent allot of time trying to copy the original (thats a good thing). Pluck valve opens up as I hear another or the same amazing pad which also seems to open up.
Bassline kicks in again..I wish the pluck valve stayed more closed because it sounds abit weak now.
Nice into to percs before the tune breaks, the bassline makes the tune sound like its going at full steam when it breaks.
I think Judge 3 should have given more for creativity on the Pluck and Pads as they obviously had allot of effort put in.
ELDRITCH REMIX 4
[Times Listened to during live review: 6]
Nice clean start, the simple but effective synth at the beginning gets the tune going and then another classic synth over the top brings the tune up to speed along with a quiet ringing noise with a gates sound on top ready for the gated pad (which sounds ACE) i.e. loads going on already but still dosnt sound too busy.
So far this tune sounds perfect/commercial, yes it does very anjuna beaty with the low analogue keyboard strikes in the background.
Amazing warm sound that gets louder before the guitar comes in which,yes does sound abit weak, a massive reverb on this would make it way better.
The build up is pretty kool when the big synth comes in to shadow the guitar.
For me the beginning and the end are the best parts, the middle could be allot more powerfull.
Its full of techniques but it could have tried to experiment some more.
350FQ REMIX 5
[Times Listened to during live review: 4 ]
Interesting bassline and reverby synth.
Stops in to a very dark synth, very simple synths so far.
Stays the same pretty much throughout the rest.
The Bassline is REALLY cheeky and could have been made phatter to stand out and used to lead the rest of the sounds along.
YOU FALLEN ONES REMIX 6
[Times Listened to during live review: 3 ]
Tottally different start to the rest of the tunes..could have been made in Reason from the analogy feel.
After thinking it sounded to non-organic at 01:15 an amazingly atmospheric sound comes in with a pad.
The main tune synth sounds pretty good and I can hear another wobbly synth put in at the same time as it which sounds good, but could be made way more dreamy and the bassline that then comes in could be made way fatter.
Perc just dosnt make the tune take off sorry no marks for perc.
Then I hear another dreamy background synth come in with some echo on it.
Thats it then basically, theres some amazing sounds which could have been made stand out with better perc and basslines basically.
FABRIX EUROPA REMIX 7
[Times Listened to during live review: 10]
Nice beginning very clean, I like the warm key that fades in and out v quickley before the tune begins properly and its ashame it couldnt continue or something even though it makes an appearence again at the breaks, it could have been used as a wicked pad backing.
The FX are all really good when the snare comes in at 1:10.
Then when the main tune comes in I thought "cheap choir sound" but kept listening...its got this slightly wicked "wobble" in it which you would hear more if the note was held down longer...as the snare comes in this synth seems to get fatter and fatter..
I think this synth could be even fatter with bigger reverb.
TERRY BARKER REMIX 8
[Times Listened to during live review: 3 ]
Another different start, interesting keys at the begginning.
The bassline is pretty good but quiet.
Nice Anjuna style messing about with a low sounding key before the tune stops for the main melody...oh it just jumps straight in lol, the nice key stops very suddenly..as if the remixer couldnt wait to drop in that main synth that does sound pretty kool but not kool enough to stop everything for it.
WOH that synth that then comes in on top of the super saw is ACE. More reverb on that and itd just sound like heaven, on its own though without that damn supersaw we all know. haha thats a nice sound yea.
But im worried because nothing else is changing and... im right it just stays like this now for the rest of the tune.
Strange tune because of that amazing final synth that comes in over the super-saw and that strange sleepy key at the beginning.
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| Originally posted by daeus TERRY BARKER REMIX 3 [Times Listened to during live review: 3 ] Thought it was hard house at the beginning, fast start anyway with nice rough bassline. Nice intro to the first sound of the Halycon Melody....Pad sounds nice fading in, pad sounds wicked just to emphasise that. The first Halycon sound synth that came in stays the same as the pad builds up..I wish this could sound phatter to compliment the amazing Pad. Woh, NICE pluck, spent allot of time trying to copy the original (thats a good thing). Pluck valve opens up as I hear another or the same amazing pad which also seems to open up. Bassline kicks in again..I wish the pluck valve stayed more closed because it sounds abit weak now. Nice into to percs before the tune breaks, the bassline makes the tune sound like its going at full steam when it breaks. I think Judge 3 should have given more for creativity on the Pluck and Pads as they obviously had allot of effort put in. |
Eldrich remix is awesome! Should be released for sure. Have you done more stuff that i can check out?
Hello, thanks for running this and providing feedback! Where can I download the other tracks to listen to?
Just a comment regarding my track's length - I don't see how 7:21 is way way too short for a trance track. There are plenty of tracks on trancemaster which are 6:30 to 7:30. Sure, some of them get up near the 10 minute mark (a few of mine have gone over 9 minutes - the track is as long as feels right to me). I don't understand that a track length of 7:21 is too short for a trance track, since a lot of great artists produce tracks shorter than that. Am I missing something?
Wow, I never expected to win to be honest. I learned alot of things producing this remix. One of them being, I need to find my own style, lmao. 
There were some really good remixes in this competition. My personal favorites being 3F05Q Darkside Remix and Terry Barker Remix. All of them are really cool though.
Thanks for a fantastic competition.
I can't wait to choose the track for the competiton next year. 
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| Originally posted by Eldritch Wow, I never expected to win to be honest. I learned alot of things producing this remix. One of them being, I need to find my own style, lmao. There were some really good remixes in this competition. My personal favorites being 3F05Q Darkside Remix and Terry Barker Remix. All of them are really cool though. Thanks for a fantastic competition. I can't wait to choose the track for the competiton next year. |
Freakin' A! 2nd Place!
Hey, that's huge for me. It's nice to know that I'm getting better at this. Looks like judge 4 just didn't like it, sad. As long as I'm making progress, it feels damn good. Hey hey, maybe it's time to think of a real artists name, instead of using my unpronouncable excuse of a forum handle.
Eldritch, if you didn't expect to win, then you need to start giving yourself more credit! The production was spot on. I expect to hear this on some internet radio...
Speaking of which, when's Schossow going to announce it, and where can I stream it online?
DERAIL, umm... your mix is 3:45. I don't know, but there seems to have been a mixup!!!
Unanimous Ricky? Judge 2 is my new friend! Who were the judges by the way, if that's okay to ask? (seems as Subtle is one, and thanks for the nice comments Subtle). Some nice feedback and critiques there, which are greatly appreciated.
RickyM, thanks for posting all of the results in such detail. Really nice to see some care taken. You have a PM, btw.
Cheers,
Alan
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| Originally posted by Subtle Congratz eldritch.. i told Ricky before i got the tracks that you would win. and you did.. I think ur remix was the best production, but 350FQ`s remix was the most original, so i gave you an even score. |
3:45, huh? It's 7:21 on my website, which I provided the download link to. How did it get cut down to 3:45? Where can I listen to this new short radio edit of my tune? (or the other entries?)
If I'd submitted a track that short, you'd all be dead right to criticise me for it!!!
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| Originally posted by derail 3:45, huh? It's 7:21 on my website, which I provided the download link to. How did it get cut down to 3:45? Where can I listen to this new short radio edit of my tune? (or the other entries?) If I'd submitted a track that short, you'd all be dead right to criticise me for it!!! |
Congratulations Eldritch!!!
I have played a few of your productions, so I knew it was going to be a tough competition. You deserve the win mate.
Third place, not bud for my first participation.
I'll beat ya next time :P
Cheers
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| Originally posted by Eldritch Wow, I never expected to win to be honest. I learned alot of things producing this remix. One of them being, I need to find my own style, lmao. There were some really good remixes in this competition. My personal favorites being 3F05Q Darkside Remix and Terry Barker Remix. All of them are really cool though. Thanks for a fantastic competition. I can't wait to choose the track for the competiton next year. |
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| Originally posted by Eldritch Wow, I never expected to win to be honest. |
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