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Posted by Werewolf on Jul-21-2002 19:10:

Re: A "challenge"

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Originally posted by Nadi
I have a bit of a challenge for all the people bashing hip hop. Every time someone posts that they dont like hip-hop, I'd like to see them list at least 1 reason why besides "its filled with wiggers". This is a challenge only in the sense that it might be hard for you guys to find a reason. Not because there isnt a reason, but because no one has bothered to give one. Other than wiggers or "trance is better etc".

- most repetitive genre ever !
- always the same layers, so almost every song ends the same way it starts
- cheap lyrics, mostly about cars, money etc.
- black wannabies music as said by many others

I'm not saying that every1 who listens to rap/hiphop are wiggers. So don't come out and say, "Hey, I like rap a lot, and I'm not dressed like a wigger bla bla bla..."
and don't get me wrong, there r also a few good rap songs with really good lyrics. However, in general I can't stand hearing always the same words...

those r enuff for me not to listen to this genre...

Posted by Greedy on Jul-21-2002 19:18:

Rap is a culture. If youre not accustomed to the hip hop culture, then you wouldnt understand it. Its like asking someone from Netherlands what they feel about rap and asking someone from Queens NY about trance.
With the exception of the stuff you hear on the radio and MTV, hip hop is real, the lyrics are real, the stories behind them are real. Not all rap revolves around cash, money and ho's.
BTW, russian rap is horrendous.

Posted by Nadi on Jul-21-2002 19:50:

Re: Re: A "challenge"

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Originally posted by Werewolf

- most repetitive genre ever !
- always the same layers, so almost every song ends the same way it starts

what about all the epic/uplifting stuff? they all have the same structure too. buildup, gets real fast, silence synths, in that order. No one critizes those though

- cheap lyrics, mostly about cars, money etc.

this is probably the biggest misconception concerning the genre. All the mtv rap is obviously going to be bling bling rap. But the real stuff isn't. I dont watch mtv much, but when i do and happen to see techno its all the same, its the same with the rap they dont portray the scene accuratly.
- black wannabies music as said by many others

even if there is some truth to that can you explain how that affects the music?

Posted by trancedance on Jul-21-2002 20:21:

Exactly

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Originally posted by tranceDJ
OK, had something to add here:

Hiphop WAS a respectable genre back in the 80s when it first started. People were doing it for the music and not the money and it was underground. Slowly hiphop declined into the commercial crap it is today...hopefully this will never happen to trance *knocks on wood*

I certainly hope Trance doesn't get watered down like hiphop has. I really liked the hiphop of the 80's with the Sugar Hill gang, Kool moe dee, GrandMaster Flash and the Furious 5, etc...but honestly, the good hip hop tunes are so rare now. Some of the tunes makes you wonder what people were thinking when they made them. I listen to Trance 99% of the time; not to say all Trance tunes are good - there are some crappy ones as well...but it really is way better constructed music than hip hop. True musicians can't argue that fact - you have to be much more talented to create a Trance tune than a hip hop tune.

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