TranceAddict Forums

TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Chill Out Room
-- R.I.P. Chris Beniot
Pages (10): « 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7 8 9 10 »


Posted by Paulino on Jun-27-2007 00:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
perhaps out of respect to ALL of them, you could keep that sort of bs out of here. the wwe statement was very biased to them but was true in many ways. we don't yet know if he was on anything. Perhaps after his neck fusion surgery he got addicted to them to rebuild himself up, but he had been passing the wellness tests, the last of which was in april this year.

Mentally, nobody will ever know, but everyone will speculate, as to what he was thinking. I can't begin to understand why he did it, but I want to. In many ways I need some sort of answer for myself so I can stop thinking about it, he was a hero to me, because he wasn't someone who was just huge and talentless, he was trained well and by the best (Stu Hart) and had a real class about him in the ring. Right now, I'm just numb. I don't want to believe he could do it, but I know he probably did. However it won't change a lot about the fact I respect him for what he's done in the business. Like many, he maybe couldn't take it. think Kevin Von Erich, Eddie Guerrero, Andre the Giant, Yokozuna, and so many many more. They all died because they did things to their bodies to entertain people. Be it being unhealthy sizes, or drugs, they've paid the price for it. We just have to remember they're doing so much, on the road at least 250 days a year. it has to have some sort of knock on effect.

And tbh, if you wanna bash him for being on 'roids if it's shown he was, they're no different than many drugs people here glamorize taking. How would u expect us to react if under the influence of something, you did something like that. just a thought anyway..


well anything is possible since nobody witnessed the murder/homicide and for the wwe to back up roids is low, cuz roid rage has lead to many deaths not saying it was involved in this sittuation. I believe in ahieving in well fitness without the use of drugs will set a good example to alot of poeple


Posted by jupiterone on Jun-27-2007 00:43:

Who is this Chrisopher Benoit?


Posted by Paulino on Jun-27-2007 00:45:

i'm pretty sure those close to chris are being questioned at the PD so more info should come soon and hopefully the truth is out


Posted by eRRaTiK on Jun-27-2007 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
Examples of more-acceptable murder of wife and child that would make me change my judgment?


you miss my point.


Posted by Paulino on Jun-27-2007 00:46:

oh does he have any records of physical child abuse?


Posted by Sunsnail on Jun-27-2007 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
you miss my point.


yeah, I still am missing it


Posted by Paulino on Jun-27-2007 00:50:

and was chris' child behavior like? was he bad kid in school and he do things out of the ordinary


Posted by Ripped Bag on Jun-27-2007 04:09:


Posted by LiquidNitrogen on Jun-27-2007 04:15:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Real. Add yet another wrestling tragedy to the list.



My friend works at WWE and had mentioned me to watch Vincet MCMohan the other day i.e. the day when he was shown in the blast flame etc. He met him a few days back in an elevator. All the matches ARE script-ed and this dude has to look at RAW (or the other sub-company) and would be coming back some time soon. I'd say he and his family are really good businessmen and minting money from good scripted wrestling.

Chris's untimely death is a tragedy though.


Posted by nchs09 on Jun-27-2007 04:21:

i knew nothing good would come out of wresling.


Posted by eROs.au on Jun-27-2007 04:31:


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Jun-27-2007 04:33:

this never happened in the UFC


Posted by Fledz on Jun-27-2007 09:31:

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
you miss my point.


No I agree with Sunsnail. There is no excuse. I'm sorry but no amount of drugs or mental stress can make up for someone killing their own child. Killing your own wife is fucking horrible but killing your own child? Your own flesh and blood? That's just sick and he deserves to rot in hell for all I care.

This bullshit about drugs and steroids is what they straight away feed to the media to distract from the fact that it seems he wasn't after all a good person at all.

When I used to watch wrestling I loved Benoit and he was definitely one of my favourites but this just totally ruins everything he has ever done.

He's a murderer and kills his own family. That deserves no tributes or any well wishings at all.


Posted by Ian on Jun-27-2007 12:16:

bit more information


A woman tells News 1130 in Vancouver, B.C. that Chris Benoit's son Daniel had a condition called Fragile X syndrome. Wikipedia describes the symptoms:

Aside from intellectual disability (mental retardation), prominent characteristics of the syndrome include an elongated face, large or protruding ears, flat feet, larger testicals in men (macroorchidism), and low muscle tone. Behavioral characteristics may include stereotypic movements (e.g., hand-flapping) and atypical social development, particularly shyness and limited eye contact. Some individuals with the fragile X syndrome also meet the diagnostic criteria for autism. While full mutation males tend to present with severe intellectual disability, the symptomology of full mutation females runs the gamut of minimally affected to severe intellectual disability, which may explain why females are underdiagnosed relative to males.

The woman interviewed for the News 1130 story says her family was in contact with the Benoits, but they didn't want to go public with the disease and chose to keep things low profile. She added that families can be torn apart by the disease because it's very difficult to find help and support. She said, "You as a parent have to go out there and find what's available and it's not easy --they don't tell you."

http://www.news1130.com/news/topsto...626_212836_4500

W.K. Analysis: This may explain why Daniel was taking growth hormone injections. It also may shed light onto why Chris didn't want someone else raising his son and made the fateful decision to kill him. As irrrational and twisted as it may sound, he may have felt he was saving his son from the double-blow of losing his parents through a murder-suicide and being subject to being raised by people who didn't understand or care for his condition. While in no way justifying his actions, the belief that his son was in for a difficult life as it was, and now one without his parents, might have been Benoit's self-justification for his heinous act.


I believe that nobody probably agonized over this more than chris. Forget the killing of wife, nobody bothers that OJ did it, how many other people are worshipped and are violent to their spouses. The biggest thing is that of his son. If that is true that he had that condition, chris must've spent every minute thinking about what to do. What would we do in this situation? who knows. I don't care what people say, if you're actually in the situation you may do the same as what he did. From all accounts he smothered him, which was probably the most non-painful way to do it. he wasn't violent to him, it was almost his best attempt at making it dignified.

Rather than taking the ripped bag or abercrombie way of "making laughs out of tragedy" I think we need to think here. The poor lad suffered but what would it be to how his life would've been after his mum was dead & dad knew he wouldn't be around for him. If we have pets who have terminal illnesses, we often do the kindest thing for them, people are more & more in support of euthanasia. In retrospect which would be the best for the kid? everyone will have opinions but chris, his father, had one and acted on it. Rather than trying to hate him for something which cannot have been an easy thing to do, I think we should all allow his family & friends the dignity of being allowed to mourn without having to have loads of bullshit about it everyone on the net. Believe me, as someone who had to have his beloved dog put to sleep out of kindness rather than allowing him to suffer a few months ago, it is not an easy decision and the pure hate benoit must've had for himself prior to him hanging himself would be more than enough punishment for him. In my case, I spent months grieving, I lost friends because I was short with them & said things i shouldn't have, but I made the choice based on the fact that the treatments if they worked in the case had a very very low chance of changing his life for the better.

My final thoughts are respect for what chris benoit did in the ring, and the amount of people who he knew & who idolised him & who respected him will feel this, however for what he did I feel nothing but sadness. I don't hate him for it, I can't, no matter how much I want to. peace guys/gals.


Posted by all-nite-freak on Jun-27-2007 12:25:

did he kill them with the cross face crippler?


Posted by smakmagik on Jun-27-2007 12:27:

....

^^^^
First of all, I will never lose respect for him as a wrestler. He was an icon. Period.
Second, even if you take his child's condition into account, and the fact that he MIGHT have done it to save his child an even worse life after Chris and his wife's death, you have got to ask yourself why did he think of killing himself and his wife in the first place. Everybody has problems, killing is hardly the solution for any of them.
His kid's situation comes second. His own situation is what we should be looking at. What could make someone snap this way?


Posted by Sunsnail on Jun-27-2007 12:31:



Yes, he did the right thing by killing his child. Imagine a terrible life without parents.


Posted by all-nite-freak on Jun-27-2007 12:34:

Re: ....

quote:
Originally posted by smakmagik
^^^^
First of all, I will never lose respect for him as a wrestler. He was an icon. Period.
Second, even if you take his child's condition into account, and the fact that he MIGHT have done it to save his child an even worse life after Chris and his wife's death, you have got to ask yourself why did he think of killing himself and his wife in the first place. Everybody has problems, killing is hardly the solution for any of them.
His kid's situation comes second. His own situation is what we should be looking at. What could make someone snap this way?


okay so he used the sharpshooter then?


Posted by eRRaTiK on Jun-27-2007 12:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
No I agree with Sunsnail. There is no excuse. I'm sorry but no amount of drugs or mental stress can make up for someone killing their own child. Killing your own wife is fucking horrible but killing your own child? Your own flesh and blood? That's just sick and he deserves to rot in hell for all I care.


you miss my point too.

I do not condone the events that have unfolded nor am I defending the guilty party, I'm simply trying to understand the bigger picture.


Posted by smakmagik on Jun-27-2007 12:37:

Re: Re: ....

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
okay so he used the sharpshooter then?


haha, the ^^ was meant for Ian's post.
and those three german suplexes in a row would have got rid of anyone.


Posted by all-nite-freak on Jun-27-2007 12:39:

Re: Re: Re: ....

quote:
Originally posted by smakmagik
haha, the ^^ was meant for Ian's post.
and those three german suplexes in a row would have got rid of anyone.


i say he sharpshootered the kid, gave the wife the cross faced crippler, then did the suicide head butt off his roof and killed myself. The maid then came in and chanted "You fucked up!".....now i want an oversized Chris Benoit foam finger


Posted by Lilith on Jun-27-2007 12:46:

Drop the crap about how he was 'wonderful on TV' already, he was an actor, that's what he was paid to do, what he did on TV was what they told him to do.
It has nothing to do with who he was and ultimately it seems that he was just a miserable, cruel and weak as piss human being who snapped and lashed out at those closest to him.
What a filthy excuse for a human being.


Posted by Philby on Jun-27-2007 12:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
The fact that the fans took to him using the sharpshooter; bret "the hitman" hart's move so much was testament to the respect they had unlike if some muscle head who was just steroided up would've


you mean sting's move!


Posted by Cipha Sounds on Jun-27-2007 12:50:

Wrestling is so fucking gay, I stopped watching it when I was 17. If you want to see some REAL action, watch Pride/K1/UFC or Boxing , especially the new exciting fighters like Miguel Cotto. I don't know why people in their 20s and 30s even get into this shit, it's nothing but bad acting and bullshit story lines. Like a action packed Soap Opera starring Jean Claude Van Dam and Steven Seagal


Posted by Fledz on Jun-27-2007 12:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
Drop the crap about how he was 'wonderful on TV' already, he was an actor, that's what he was paid to do, what he did on TV was what they told him to do.
It has nothing to do with who he was and ultimately it seems that he was just a miserable, cruel and weak as piss human being who snapped and lashed out at those closest to him.
What a filthy excuse for a human being.


Yea that's actually a good point that I can't believe I missed. The person on screen was an actor and was made up. You have no idea who he really was.

Well actually we do now.


Pages (10): « 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7 8 9 10 »

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.