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Posted by Lilith on Jun-27-2007 06:33:
April's not so bad, think you'd grow up hating life being named Monday though 
Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jun-27-2007 07:11:
Emil
Posted by all-nite-freak on Jun-27-2007 07:13:
Pubert
Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jun-27-2007 07:17:
Belzebub
Posted by Arbiter on Jun-27-2007 08:50:
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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
well you knew this lady more than i did. I'm guessing you had enough observations to understand she was definitely able to cope with having her name changed to Gertude(?), albeit, picked to suit her looks. |
Actually I didn't. 
That Gertrude anecdote was posted by squirrelly, not myself. I'm just saying that it's a bit absurd to argue that it was wrong, on the basis of hypothetical psychological damage it might have done, when there's no evidence presented here that it did any.
That is all is rather aside from the issue of what kind of person would be so fragile as to be psychologically damaged by something as stupid and irrelevant as being called by a different name: I'm sure there are some such people, but are we really to accept that the problem is that they are called by a different name, rather than that the problem is that they were so psychologically fragile in the first place?
I think calling possible adverse effects on a person's self esteem as a result of teasing "psychological damage" trivializes the experiences and struggles of people who have been through genuinely traumatic experiences in a way which is borderline offensive. And frankly, the only reason that anyone would be so troubled by something so trivial is the absolute absence of any genuine adversity in their lives. Instead of crying and whining because a few people made a joke about how you look, or the dumb things that come out of your mouth, you should be thanking your lucky stars that you don't have any real problems, like wondering where your next meal is coming from, or where to hide if hostile guerillas storm your village, or how your family is going to afford the medicine you need which costs more than you all make in a year for a single dose.
I mean don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that calling people by derogatory names is particularly thoughtful or mature, but I have to admit I have a hard time empathizing with a bunch of spoilt little emo kids worried about what random other people who don't even really know them think about them. I mean if that's your biggest problem, you're about 6 billionth in line for deserving any empathy, you know?
Posted by biznology on Jun-27-2007 09:08:
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Originally posted by Arbiter
Actually I didn't. 
That Gertrude anecdote was posted by squirrelly, not myself. I'm just saying that it's a bit absurd to argue that it was wrong, on the basis of hypothetical psychological damage it might have done, when there's no evidence presented here that it did any.
That is all is rather aside from the issue of what kind of person would be so fragile as to be psychologically damaged by something as stupid and irrelevant as being called by a different name: I'm sure there are some such people, but are we really to accept that the problem is that they are called by a different name, rather than that the problem is that they were so psychologically fragile in the first place?
I think calling possible adverse effects on a person's self esteem as a result of teasing "psychological damage" trivializes the experiences and struggles of people who have been through genuinely traumatic experiences in a way which is borderline offensive. And frankly, the only reason that anyone would be so troubled by something so trivial is the absolute absence of any genuine adversity in their lives. Instead of crying and whining because a few people made a joke about how you look, or the dumb things that come out of your mouth, you should be thanking your lucky stars that you don't have any real problems, like wondering where your next meal is coming from, or where to hide if hostile guerillas storm your village, or how your family is going to afford the medicine you need which costs more than you all make in a year for a single dose.
I mean don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that calling people by derogatory names is particularly thoughtful or mature, but I have to admit I have a hard time empathizing with a bunch of spoilt little emo kids worried about what random other people who don't even really know them think about them. I mean if that's your biggest problem, you're about 6 billionth in line for deserving any empathy, you know? |
how often is serious psychological damage caused by name calling, and not something more serious like genetics or a severly traumatic event?
the most screwed up people ive met have it run in their family. to me it seems a failure of darwinism.
the kids that get shit upon in the highschool years are generally the ones that are doing work and lead successful lives, whether they are named Gertrude or not.
i thot Gretchen sounded ugly...sorry, i have some empathy, but not enough to mention names again|
Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jun-27-2007 10:24:
Engelbert
Posted by DJ_Eternal on Jun-27-2007 10:27:
Chantelle, or any chav sounding name for that matter.
Posted by aquila on Jun-27-2007 11:39:
Vaalia
Posted by Cloudburst on Jun-27-2007 11:53:
fuck I hope no one has said Jim. 
Posted by Sunsnail on Jun-27-2007 12:01:
Jim is good
Posted by Cloudburst on Jun-27-2007 12:04:
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Originally posted by Sunsnail
Jim is good |
It's pretty unusual over here too. I have met like 2 Jims briefly in my life.
I just checked, there's only 12 ppl called Jim in Sweden (of 9 million).
Posted by Sunsnail on Jun-27-2007 12:08:
Cloudburst Cloudburst
"A young ninja's strange, erotic journey from Milan to Minsk."
Posted by montana on Jun-27-2007 12:26:
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Originally posted by Cloudburst
fuck I hope no one has said Jim. |
Mr. Jim och det stora K�rkortet!
Posted by noikeee on Jun-27-2007 13:39:
Ermenegilda
Flor�ncio
Laurindo
Florentino
Posted by Silky Johnson on Jun-27-2007 13:40:
Welp, the one thing I've learned from this thread is that SuspicionVandit got picked on as a kid and he's still on the bitter bus about it.
Posted by noikeee on Jun-27-2007 13:44:
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Originally posted by Cloudburst
It's pretty unusual over here too. I have met like 2 Jims briefly in my life.
I just checked, there's only 12 ppl called Jim in Sweden (of 9 million). |
2 - 12
x - 9million
x=2*9million/12=18million/12=1.5million
So, taking your average of met Jims, and applying the same proportion to the whole swedish population, you have met 1.5 million swedes during your life.
Now that's being popular!
Posted by cheshirepk8 on Jun-27-2007 14:48:
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Originally posted by jennypie
Welp, the one thing I've learned from this thread is that SuspicionVandit got picked on as a kid and he's still on the bitter bus about it. |
I learned that some people have absolutely no clue how they affect others nor do they care... f' em, if they can't take a joke. Expecting people to treat others with respect is not a sign of weakness, perhaps optimistic utopia but not a frikken weakness.
I never said to coddle the child or remove their spine completely. But you do need to give some reassuring support to them. The problem is when parents don't help their children develop thick skin in a positive manner.
Like i said before...
Sticks n stones may leave scars, words make kids go to school with shotguns.
Posted by Silky Johnson on Jun-27-2007 14:50:
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Originally posted by cheshirepk8
I learned that some people have absolutely no clue how they affect others nor do they care... f' em, if they can't take a joke. Expecting people to treat others with respect is not a sign of weakness, perhaps optimistic utopia but not a frikken weakness.
I never said to coddle the child or remove their spine completely. But you do need to give some reassuring support to them. The problem is when parents don't help their children develop thick skin in a positive manner.
Like i said before...
Sticks n stones may leave scars, words make kids go to school with shotguns. |
The hell does any of that have to do with my post? LoL.
Posted by cheshirepk8 on Jun-27-2007 14:55:
i would also add....
names that are spelled whack just to be different.
Gennifer
Jaesyn
Nikkole
Jessika
Posted by cheshirepk8 on Jun-27-2007 14:57:
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Originally posted by jennypie
The hell does any of that have to do with my post? LoL. |
Your post was about how (not going back in browser to see his name) is still affected by teasing... And i was still shocked that people are playing down the effect it has. So it was sort of a multiple quoting of people post, technically. I just used yours because it was there.
=)
Posted by Silky Johnson on Jun-27-2007 15:00:
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Originally posted by cheshirepk8
Gennifer
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Actually, that's a very common way to spell Jennifer. It's a variation of Gueneviere/Gwenevere/Genevieve. Originally it was Gwenhwyfar.
Posted by Silky Johnson on Jun-27-2007 15:02:
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Originally posted by cheshirepk8
Your post was about how (not going back in browser to see his name) is still affected by teasing... And i was still shocked that people are playing down the effect it has. So it was sort of a multiple quoting of people post, technically. I just used yours because it was there.
=) |
While I don't discount teasing for the negative effects it can have, I would say it's more the fault of piss-poor parenting. Teach a child the right things, and they'll learn to let that shit roll off their back. Teach a child to be overly sensitive, and they'll learn to take everything personally.
Posted by cheshirepk8 on Jun-27-2007 15:21:
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Originally posted by jennypie
Actually, that's a very common way to spell Jennifer. It's a variation of Gueneviere/Gwenevere/Genevieve. Originally it was Gwenhwyfar. |
Yeah... my name is a traditional Irish name and there are 4 gajillion variations of it.
I don't know which is more fun, watching people try to pronounce it or spell it.
Posted by Silky Johnson on Jun-27-2007 15:24:
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Originally posted by cheshirepk8
Yeah... my name is a traditional Irish name and there are 4 gajillion variations of it.
I don't know which is more fun, watching people try to pronounce it or spell it. |
Heh, my little sister's name is Shivhan. My father opted out of real torture by not having it spelled the traditional way of Siobhan.
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