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-- Ontario Election 2007: (Vote October 10th)
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Took me a total of 4 minutes to vote. Walk in, had to show them where I was on their voting sheet as they got confused cause my middle name is the same name as my father's lol.
Voted and left.
Couldnt' be any easier...except if it was online...
I was being sarcastic, in case you guys didnt notice after reading my entire post. Elections ARE very important. Seriously, 7-8 people voted in 30 minutes, thats pathetic, judging by the size of Hamilton and the location of my voting station. Canadians dont care about politics, this country can easily fall to bad leaders like it happened across the border.
Apart from TAs on here, many young people dont vote, or even heard of the names of the 4 main party representatives in their area.
I cant wait to see official results ...
to find out what was the percentage of adults who went and cast their vote.
I was being sarcastic too.....to an extent.
And yes, Canadians don't give a shit. They're more concerned pointing out the problems in America to care about any problem at home.
on hamilton mountain around 6pm at my polling station, a decent amount of people came in. but still very low. The amount of non crossed off names over those crossed off was like 80%.
If EVERYONE actually voted, it'd be interesting to see how different the results would be.
i think they should adopt a secure online voting method. Then lazyness couldn't even be an excuse. (if we can trust our credit cards online, why couldn't voting work?)
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| Originally posted by djbruuen on hamilton mountain around 6pm at my polling station, a decent amount of people came in. but still very low. The amount of non crossed off names over those crossed off was like 80%. If EVERYONE actually voted, it'd be interesting to see how different the results would be. i think they should adopt a secure online voting method. Then lazyness couldn't even be an excuse. (if we can trust our credit cards online, why couldn't voting work?) |
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| Originally posted by rabbitjoker McGuinty is a flat-out lier who will say anything to get votes. McGuinty has made many significant promises and guarantees that he and his party have not kept (each with their own weak excuse). Ontario Liberals have manipulated the province's financial position in an attempt to discredit the framework they were provided with (by previous governments) - a framework which has enabled the province to fiscally prosper. McGuinty's Liberals has given millions of dollars to Liberal supporters via "over-funded" grants (i.e. a cricket league [run by Liberal party funders] getting $1 million vs. the $150k they asked for) or via un-scrutinized funding programs (slush funds). However I think the most important reason people should vote for another party is because the Liberals have stood for little, accomplished even less and not engineered the province for continued success. The Liberal party is a party that in effectual terms have done nothing, made no hard decisions and refused to "step-up" and set a cohesive direction for Ontario. Under the Liberals Ontario has stagnated from a government, policy and reform perspective. Ontario needs a party that can lead progress, execute on a vision and move Ontario forward. |
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| Originally posted by infinity HiGH And yes, Canadians don't give a shit. They're more concerned pointing out the problems in America to care about any problem at home. |
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| Originally posted by musicsnob_NOT Well said. |
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Dalton McGuinty is a big, fat liar, we are assured, because he promised no new taxes in the fall campaign of 2003 and went on to impose one, as premier, eight months later. There were more "lies" than that, according to the Ministry of Truth, but that was the big whopper. John Tory, meanwhile, campaigned on funding faith-based schools with public money then changed his mind, oh, maybe, eight minutes later. The newspapers had the Conservative leader backing away, back-tracking, flip-flopping or doing a U-turn, but not fibbing. What's good for Red is surely good for Blue. Is Mr. Tory not a big, fat liar, too? Oh, no. He's an honourable democrat and a good listener. He said one thing one day, a very different thing the next. The Conservative leader tried to pass off his proposal for a free-vote in the legislature as a refinement of his position, based on feedback from voters. Sure it was. Because only Liberals lie. Only Liberals lie because, as residents of the mushy ideological middle, they are unprincipled. They hold to nothing. Conservatives don't lie because they hold firm to traditional values. Sure they do. Just ask Belinda Stronach. The NDP never lie because "working families" would hear about it and get angry and disillusioned, or worse, become leisure families. And that would be bad. The Green party, of course, never lies because that would be bad for the cause of cleaner air, purer water and wind power. The MMP advocates never lie because that would only confuse this simple, important initiative. Sorry, bad example. But Liberals lie. Not like a rug; like wall-to-wall carpet. Mr. Tory, in announcing the change on Monday, said he'd been persuaded by an encounter with a voter in Sarnia. Sure he was. The desperate yapping of PC candidates -- a couple of stalwarts among them -- the crashing poll numbers, naw, that had nothing to do with it. He wouldn't lie about that. He's a Tory. "Your word isn't just important, it's everything," Mr. Tory said during the televised leaders debate. Today, he's not a hypocrite, though. No. He's not a Liberal. Liberals lie because they're so much better at it. It just comes naturally. C'mon. Fiberals, remember? Lyin' Brian? Just a faded memory. Jean Chr�tien, in mid-campaign, said he would abolish the GST then, once elected, refused to do so. Guess he's a liar. Wonder if he actually had open-heart surgery. That story about the golf game and the heart doctor? Hummh. Guy's a Liberal. Probably made it up. Bill Clinton, not a Liberal but close enough, must be a liar. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman," turned out to be quite a stretcher. Now people pay thousands to hear him speak. Stephen Harper promised to do several things he's yet to achieve, but he's not a liar. He's just managing some pesky problems -- income trusts, Newfie oil, the gun registry -- or being hampered by his minority government status. He's a Conservative. He doesn't lie. Lying, I guess, is a legitimate political topic. Doubtless, being unable to tell the truth is a character flaw in an individual and a political leader. Here's the thing, and it will come as a shocker. People lie. Every day. You, her, your boss, your neighbour, your mom. People lie about little things -- "Nice haircut!" -- and big things -- "Of course, I love you!" Many people today are divorced. When they stood before God and the assembled on their wedding day, and pledged love and fidelity, in sickness and in health, -- till death, yes, DEATH -- did them part, were they lying? Lying, briefly put, is the act of making a statement you know is false. There is a difference between deliberately uttering a falsehood and making a statement -- in all honesty -- that later turns out to be untrue. One is lying. The other is breaking a promise or breaking your word. Dalton McGuinty surely did this and was crucified for it, even as he asked for forgiveness. But to know he lied would be to know the contents of his head, at a certain moment in time. To some, this matters not. It is enough to know he's a Liberal. And Liberals lie. Conservatives, on the other hand, are virtuous. They believe in certain things and hold to fundamentals. John Tory does not lie. And he's spent much of the campaign appealing to all those millions of Ontarians offended by a liar. On Wednesday, he gets his just reward: the support of that righteous multitude. The truth may make him crazy. |
Wow, what a worthless article. Was he even following the Tory campaign? Tory lost the support precisely because he didn't back away from the issue. And yes, pretty much every politician breaks some promises, because they promise too much and have to make compromises, but can anyone here name even one single promise that McGuinty kept? Where was the compromise?
Looks like we're stuck w/ Dalton for a few more years 
looks like another liberal majority 
Poor Tory may not even win his own riding. Tory is dead as a political leader now.....time to find a new leader.
Looks like the Green Party may actually get a seat this election....that is huge.
just wondering, when 6% of results are in, how can a candidate be declared a winner?
edit: on a side note, i'm very displeased to have mcguinty for 4 more years. To bad Tory couldn't be the liberal leader.
I've always wondered that. But I guess that 6% of the polls is a good enough estimate to declare a winner 
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| Originally posted by djbruuen just wondering, when 6% of results are in, how can a candidate be declared a winner? edit: on a side note, i'm very displeased to have mcguinty for 4 more years. To bad Tory couldn't be the liberal leader. |
heck....they were declaring a liberal majority before a single vote was counted.
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| Originally posted by ChemEnhanced Looks like the Green Party may actually get a seat this election....that is huge. |
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium Which riding are you talking about? Right now it appears that the mixed member proportional system is not going to pass. |
Ontario, be prepared for another 4 yrs of f*ckery
i'd love to see the Green Party get a seat. Give them more credibility in further elections.
Sadly, Green Party is not going to win a set. All I was asking is ONE Green seat, just ONE. To make a point, make history. Sadly, though it was close in one riding, not enough. And proportional mixed system is not welcomed either. And McGuinty is back, WITH a majority. The elections were a complete failure.
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium Sadly, Green Party is not going to win a set. All I was asking is ONE Green seat, just ONE. To make a point, make history. Sadly, though it was close in one riding, not enough. And proportional mixed system is not welcomed either. And McGuinty is back, WITH a majority. The elections were a complete failure. |
I dont have (refuse to watch) TV, instead I am glued to the live elections online,
http://www.ctv.ca/mini/ontarioElection2007/index.html
can someone tell me how many percent of popular vote does Green Party have right now? Curiousity killed the cat.
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium I dont have (refuse to watch) TV, instead I am glued to the live elections online, http://www.ctv.ca/mini/ontarioElection2007/index.html can someone tell me how many percent of popular vote does Green Party have right now? Curiousity killed the cat. |
I live in an absolute shithole. No good clubs, parties, and one of the lowest Green Party results in entire province at 4.9 percent, including my vote. Most ridings have higher percentage for Greens now that I am checking out the CTV elections page. Embarassing. Shocking development, though, is Liberals overtook NDP over my riding (WOW!), so despite the McGuinties, Liberals are stronger than ever. Thanks to Harper!
the interesting thing about the green party is they went from being a joke, to now, where people are actually listening to them (except the media) if anyone has seen the 'student vote' the green party came in 2nd place. Green party is also progressively receiving more votes every year. In 15-20 years, i could see the green party neck and neck with the NDP, or a close 4th
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium Which riding are you talking about? Right now it appears that the mixed member proportional system is not going to pass. |
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