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Posted by excite331 on Nov-02-2007 20:51:

DJ Sasha is a veteran of almost 20yrs now. He's seen it all, he's been a driving part of many movements in the music scene, not least the early 90's, Hacienda etc. Lets face it, motivations change.

Most of all however, DJ's rely on the music that is given to them at a given time. No DJ, in this day and age, can come anywhere NEAR to competing with the DJ's of days past. The music is simply not there. A DJ is only as strong as the music.

Electronic music, today, is an old and pallid leper - though dressed in modern fancies he is green in the face, regurgitating old fables and former glories - all into his own empty ale tankard, slurred and uninterpretable.

String a bunch of them together and DJ's are only left with a gaggle of rotted palsies, false prevalents. Sasha or otherwise.


Posted by Clovis on Nov-02-2007 20:52:

quote:
Originally posted by excite331
DJ Sasha is a veteran of almost 20yrs now. He's seen it all, he's been a driving part of many movements in the music scene, not least the early 90's, Hacienda etc. Lets face it, motivations change.

Most of all however, DJ's rely on the music that is given to them at a given time. No DJ, in this day and age, can come anywhere NEAR to competing with the DJ's of days past. The music is simply not there. A DJ is only as strong as the music.

Electronic music, today, is an old and pallid leper - though dressed in modern fancies he is green in the face, regurgitating old fables and former glories - all into his own empty ale tankard, slurred and uninterpretable.

String a bunch of them together and DJ's are only left with a gaggle of rotted palsies, false prevalents. Sasha or otherwise.



Have you ever heard of a fellow named Danny Howells?


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Nov-02-2007 20:54:

quote:
Originally posted by DiegoParra32
and the reason for my comment is that the expectations of a dj a lot of you guys have is unrealistic.


Wrong. The low standards a lot of you guys have for a DJ are completely unacceptable.


Posted by Clovis on Nov-02-2007 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Wrong. The low standards a lot of you guys have for a DJ are completely unacceptable.




Fuckin A man...


Posted by UWM on Nov-02-2007 20:58:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Wrong. The low standards a lot of you guys have for a DJ are completely unacceptable.


We have a winner.


Posted by plaxx on Nov-02-2007 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by excite331
DJ Sasha is a veteran of almost 20yrs now. He's seen it all, he's been a driving part of many movements in the music scene, not least the early 90's, Hacienda etc. Lets face it, motivations change.

Most of all however, DJ's rely on the music that is given to them at a given time. No DJ, in this day and age, can come anywhere NEAR to competing with the DJ's of days past. The music is simply not there. A DJ is only as strong as the music.

Electronic music, today, is an old and pallid leper - though dressed in modern fancies he is green in the face, regurgitating old fables and former glories - all into his own empty ale tankard, slurred and uninterpretable.

String a bunch of them together and DJ's are only left with a gaggle of rotted palsies, false prevalents. Sasha or otherwise.


Winner.


Posted by Clovis on Nov-02-2007 21:15:

quote:
Originally posted by plaxx
Winner.



Thats not true though.


Posted by excite331 on Nov-02-2007 21:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Have you ever heard of a fellow named Danny Howells?


Yes, but I haven't listened to any of his sets I don't think - and I've listened to a LOT of sets over the years!

I'm trying this Danny Howells Meccico set as recommended in the other thread - I'll have a listen. Understandably it may not represent him at anything like his finest.

I have nothing against talent and good music - I've just had a few bevvies and felt like throwing an opinion around with colourful descriptions

As always everything brings something to somebody. Something good for many is good for me, even if I don't enjoy it. I throw opinion around for the sake of it - it's just something to do. Honestly I think electronic music, as it is SET - is open for anything now. That's a whole 'nother thing however.

Hopefully I will enjoy this.

I get the impression, personally, that the convential back-to-back track DJ is not ever, really, going to excite me. I need MORE. It'd be hard for me to engage into much of anything that follow this convention.


Posted by Clovis on Nov-02-2007 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by excite331
Yes, but I haven't listened to any of his sets I don't think - and I've listened to a LOT of sets over the years!

I'm trying this Danny Howells Meccico set as recommended in the other thread - I'll have a listen. Understandably it may not represent him at anything like his finest.

I have nothing against talent and good music - I've just had a few bevvies and felt like throwing an opinion around with colourful descriptions

As always everything brings something to somebody. Something good for many is good for me, even if I don't enjoy it. I throw opinion around for the sake of it - it's just something to do. Honestly I think electronic music, as it is SET - is open for anything now. That's a whole 'nother thing however.

Hopefully I will enjoy this.

I get the impression, personally, that the convential back-to-back track DJ is not ever, really, going to excite me. I need MORE. It'd be hard for me to engage into much of anything that follow this convention.



I understand. The thing with Danny, is he continuously keeps things fresh, playing old and new, the best of both, and putting it all together in flawless marathon sets that go on for 9+ hours. You can talk about the state of EDM all you want, bottom line is, there is always good music out there, you just have to find it, and DJ's today are sitting on 20 years of great dance music, yet they seem bent on only playing what came out within the last 3 months. Theres wayyyy too much good music out there for it to be used an excuse for a poor set...


Posted by iammesol on Nov-02-2007 21:41:

Re: Re: Sasha as a DJ.

quote:
Originally posted by CleverName
TAs who had an awesome time this weekend: like 15
TAs who had a not awesome time this weekend: 1.5 (I think myra liked it and is covering for you)

end of debate.




Kick his ass Josh!


Posted by Clovis on Nov-02-2007 21:44:

Re: Re: Re: Sasha as a DJ.

quote:
Originally posted by iammesol


Kick his ass Josh!



Didn't you not enjoy Sasha much? lol


Posted by iammesol on Nov-02-2007 21:48:

It was just that funny

Trust me, if you saw Rob (and I know you already posted that you had fun Rob) and the smile on his face all weekend, you would understand


Posted by DiegoParra32 on Nov-03-2007 13:16:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Wrong. The low standards a lot of you guys have for a DJ are completely unacceptable.


don't get me wrong, sasha has not lived up to his name in a long time, but....I don't expect him to every night or every time I see him. I would really like YOU to drop epic or sick sets every week or even more frequent while you are launching a label, working on music. I understand that Sasha is not the greatest or whatever you want to call him anymore but hey, your dj as well right? I would like to hear something from you that you would deem acceptable and let us critique on it. That would only be fair right?


Posted by Tangil on Nov-03-2007 14:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
DJ's today are sitting on 20 years of great dance music, yet they seem bent on only playing what came out within the last 3 months.


So fucking true. It seems like so many Dj's just play stuff because it's new, not because it's actually a good track.


Posted by Internet TufGai on Nov-03-2007 14:05:

quote:
Originally posted by DiegoParra32
don't get me wrong, sasha has not lived up to his name in a long time, but....I don't expect him to every night or every time I see him. I would really like YOU to drop epic or sick sets every week or even more frequent while you are launching a label, working on music. I understand that Sasha is not the greatest or whatever you want to call him anymore but hey, your dj as well right? I would like to hear something from you that you would deem acceptable and let us critique on it. That would only be fair right?


He almost made it to the DJ MAG top 200 last year, he knows what he's talking about


Posted by plaxx on Nov-03-2007 14:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Tangil
So fucking true. It seems like so many Dj's just play stuff because it's new, not because it's actually a good track.


Oh wait... aren't we the ones that bash DJs when they play something old, and they're sets arent filled with IDs? The ammount of hypocrites on this board is insane.


Posted by Tangil on Nov-03-2007 14:15:

I've got nothing against a dj playing old tracks, as long as they don't play the same ones in every set. I see where you're coming from but there's a difference.


Posted by DiegoParra32 on Nov-03-2007 14:20:

all i am trying to say is that people on here are insanely over critical. that's all. shame on me for thinking so.


Posted by plaxx on Nov-03-2007 16:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Tangil
I've got nothing against a dj playing old tracks, as long as they don't play the same ones in every set. I see where you're coming from but there's a difference.


Ok then, lets tell all the artists to stop producing because we want DJs to spin stuff from the last 20 years. Give me a fucking break.


Posted by Ted Promo on Nov-03-2007 16:10:

quote:
Originally posted by plaxx
Ok then, lets tell all the artists to stop producing because we want DJs to spin stuff from the last 20 years. Give me a fucking break.



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They're not saying people should stop producing. They're saying that rather than a dj playing a bunch of shit productions that have been made recently, they'd rather hear the dj play good older productions


Posted by plaxx on Nov-03-2007 16:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
They're not saying people should stop producing. They're saying that rather than a dj playing a bunch of shit productions that have been made recently, they'd rather hear the dj play good older productions


I agree, there are a tonne of shit tracks being made, but that doesn't take away from the fact that there is also a shitload of good music around! Those good old tracks are gems, thats for sure, but their time has come and gone. Once in a while, if a DJ drops an old tune, the crown goes mental. It's definitely a nice surprise (Sasha, Warehouse Party, Xpander at then end) but if DJs played nothing but those old gems, are you seriously telling me that they would get kudos from everyone?


Posted by Clovis on Nov-03-2007 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by plaxx
I agree, there are a tonne of shit tracks being made, but that doesn't take away from the fact that there is also a shitload of good music around! Those good old tracks are gems, thats for sure, but their time has come and gone. Once in a while, if a DJ drops an old tune, the crown goes mental. It's definitely a nice surprise (Sasha, Warehouse Party, Xpander at then end) but if DJs played nothing but those old gems, are you seriously telling me that they would get kudos from everyone?



Theres alot more older music that you've probably never heard that sounds just as current as some of the best new releases at the moment. It's not about reviving classics such as xpander, I'm talking about the wealth of EDM as a whole. Point is Danny manages to play a wide array of great tgracks that keeps his sets fresh and interesting everytime...so to say that no DJ can achieve that these days because of the current state of production quality is absurd.


Posted by Arteh on Nov-04-2007 14:06:

sasha is so great and such a legend , i cant even understand how peaple can tell sumpin like u guyz are IMO


Posted by RJT on Nov-04-2007 14:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Arteh
sasha is so great and such a legend , i cant even understand how peaple can tell sumpin like u guyz are IMO


Not being completely inept has something to do with it.


Posted by Gauss on Nov-04-2007 14:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
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Gold!


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