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Posted by bluejay on Sep-23-2002 13:13:

Re: flaming june...

my 2 favs...

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Originally posted by DevanteS

and...

quote:
Originally posted by DevanteS

sorry for the typo..should be "SPEAK in sympathy" not speaking

i like your work on these

Posted by Alccode on Sep-23-2002 20:12:

Hey DevanteS,

Awesome stuff! I really enjoy your work, it's such a great idea!

The little "collage" you made above is perfect for wallpaper (I think - haven't tested it out yet). Was that your plan? Could you have different "sizes" for different resolutions?

Just some ideas - YMMV.

Posted by Nautica on Sep-24-2002 10:03:

quote:
Originally posted by dreamdecks
Hey Nautica - Whats the point in going to all the bother of doing a reply just to diss his work?

I'd like to see you try and do something half as good as that.

I'm not so stupid as to dis someone's work unless I can do better. Here's what I knocked up in a couple of minutes:

One of the biggest holes I could pic in Chris' work is that the text obstructs the subject matter of the photo, rather than flow around it like my demonstration.

Rather than slag it off I'd prefer to make some helpful suggestions. As mentioned, try to flow the text, also vary the fonts used. It's nice enough but some variety would look awesome. Maybe even take a standard font and modify it to create something unique.

Also take a little more care with alignment, so for example the "S" os "stone" sits directly inline under the "R" of "solar". Kerning letter pairs as well, in "sympathy" look at the gap between the Y and the M, then the M and the P. Consistant spacing is good and looks neat.

Here's a quick Black Hole sleeve I made.

Although the photo isn't that good (cheap camera) it's one I took myself in a club and I think it's pretty cool.

So to some up, DevanteS, good work, room for improvement!

Hope you can amaze us all soon, including the picky ones!

Posted by venomdx on Sep-24-2002 12:10:

great work, i especially like the art for speaking in sympathy

Posted by ExOn on Sep-24-2002 12:14:

Re: liam schachar!

quote:
Originally posted by DevanteS

Really nice! My favs!

Posted by NY1004 on Sep-24-2002 12:34:

Posted by Nautica on Sep-24-2002 13:45:

quote:
Originally posted by NY1004

HEY I THINK YOU ARE MISSING A MAIN POINT HERE. DEVANTES HAND PICKS THE PICTURES TO MATCH THE SONG'S TITLE AND JUST THE GENERAL FEEL OF IT. WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR ABOVE GRAPHIC FOR OCEAN LAB IT IN NO WAY MAKES ME THINK OF OCEAN LAB.

GET IT?

HE NEVER SAID HIS GRAPHICS WERE THE BOMB. HE WAS JUST GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO SHARE THEM WITH THE TA COMMUNITY. SO PLEASE KEEP YOUR NEGATIVE COMMENTS TO YOURSELF.

What does Louise Nurding have to do with Chicane - Halcyon? Given time I could locate a suitably relevent photo for Oceanlab, I just picked the first girl that came to hand though.

You seem to be confusing "negative comments" with constructive criticism. Not once have said "that's crap" or suchlike, for each point I've made I've explained a way in which he can improve. Several times in the thread people have suggested he get into this further, and I'm pointing out ways in which he can maximise his potential.

How very selfish of me!

Posted by bluejay on Sep-24-2002 14:27:

Posted by Porky on Sep-24-2002 14:51:

HEY thanks

quote:
Originally posted by Nautica

I'm not so stupid as to dis someone's work unless I can do better. Here's what I knocked up in a couple of minutes:

One of the biggest holes I could pic in Chris' work is that the text obstructs the subject matter of the photo, rather than flow around it like my demonstration.

Rather than slag it off I'd prefer to make some helpful suggestions. As mentioned, try to flow the text, also vary the fonts used. It's nice enough but some variety would look awesome. Maybe even take a standard font and modify it to create something unique.

Also take a little more care with alignment, so for example the "S" os "stone" sits directly inline under the "R" of "solar". Kerning letter pairs as well, in "sympathy" look at the gap between the Y and the M, then the M and the P. Consistant spacing is good and looks neat.

Here's a quick Black Hole sleeve I made.

Although the photo isn't that good (cheap camera) it's one I took myself in a club and I think it's pretty cool.

So to some up, DevanteS, good work, room for improvement!

Hope you can amaze us all soon, including the picky ones!

Hey Nautica,

i want to thank you for your criticisms. I really appreciate them.
One thing you can look forward to in life is to continue to learn and grow, and your comments have definitely made me want to improve my graphic skills so i can satisfy even the pickiest of critics... like you.

the point of my graphics is not to flex my graphic skills, but instead to find and match appropriate graphics to a song that invoke the mood of the song. the end project that i have in mind is that i want to make a musical jukebox on my homepage www.chrispork.com so that anyone can flip through the pictures to hear the song that matches the graphic. you probably don't know but i do have wma rips for every single graphic that you see. each wma rip is about 500kb, so even 56k users can listen.

why the jukebox? trance is a huge part of my life and i want to share it with people. i make the graphic for 2 crowds. first, the non trance listeners, they can listen to some of the classics that have moved me. secondly, the hardcore trance fans. with the help from guys like Starfox, i can get the latest trance tunes and push it out here in the TA forums so that people can hear them. coming up next.. Ghostland featuring Sinead o Conner - Guide me god (pvd remix). i'm a pvd whore just like starfox and there is no greater feeling for me than to push out the latest pvd track/remix

in terms of graphic skills i do believe that i'm getting better. these were my first graphics
[1. solar stone - speak in sympathy
2. tiesto -in my memory
3. mother's pride - learning to fly
4. lost tribe - angel ]
....when i see these graphics i cringe b/c of their simplicity and crudeness.
but i am proud of some of recent work, which i think shows improvement in my spacing and layout
(1. solarcoaster 2. janeiro 3.pvd remix of marcoV 4. tillmann's on the run 5. starecase - faith)
but you are right i do need to vary my text, and the flow of it on the page

but sometimes i hear a song, and it just reminds me of a certain graphic. that Louise nurding pic for Halcyon just perfectly fits the mood for the song, she is in such a peaceful state of halcyon.

the oceanlabs pic of late is a very weak attempt, but it was a quick job as a favor for my friend miss_e who was feeling blue and loved that song.

the font that i use, kabel md pt, will always be the same b/c i want to maintain some consistency when the jukebox project is finally complete

but all in all, i really do appreciate your criticisms. there is nothing more satisfying that appeasing the harshest of your critics

regards,
Chris

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Sep-24-2002 14:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Nautica
Am I missing something?

No offence, but I fail to see how some kerned outer-glow text over stock photography is so amazing?

dont mean to be offensive either.. but i agree. My opinion. Dont bash it pls. Its the "Porky so so sexy" that does it for me grrr. dont no what it is about that and i think they look just a little to simple for me.

Posted by dreamdecks on Sep-24-2002 15:50:

Its not about them being 'easy' or 'hard' to do, its how they look, in porkys case they look good.

Posted by dreamdecks on Sep-24-2002 15:53:

Nautica,

I dont believe you did that graphic.

Put your name on the oceanlab one, in the same font as the rest of the graphic, just to see if you realy did it.

Posted by T_2199 on Sep-24-2002 16:55:

hey porky ur pictures are kickass

enough said

Posted by Nautica on Sep-24-2002 18:03:

quote:
Originally posted by dreamdecks
Nautica,

I dont believe you did that graphic.

Put your name on the oceanlab one, in the same font as the rest of the graphic, just to see if you realy did it.

Posted by Insigma on Sep-24-2002 19:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Nautica

h�, h�...
Ok man you are able to make the same thing...But what' s the problem finally ?

Posted by Nautica on Sep-24-2002 20:50:

I think we wandered off topic a little!

Chris, thanks for the response! I look at stuff I did ages ago and it makes me cringe. Keep up the good work!

Posted by NY1004 on Sep-24-2002 21:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DevanteS

(please excuse ny1004, she is my exgf and is protective of some of the graphics b/c alot of them were made for her)

regards,
Chris

THERE IS NO NEED FOR YOU TO EXCUSE ME ON MY BEHALF. WHAT I SAID I DIDN'T SAY BECAUSE IT WAS YOU OR YOUR GRAPHICS. I WOULD OF SAID IT FOR ANYONE ELSE AS WELL.

Posted by Blue. on Sep-25-2002 01:50:

Seams Devante is the only one taking his constructive criticizm as simply that, nobodys perfect, nothing is perfect and he listens to constructive criticism just like all good artists, you can't change peoples opinions and cirticism is good if brought upon in the right way so no need to flame

Posted by Sex-Tazi on Sep-25-2002 09:39:

awesome!!

Your originality is being combined with your creativity in the most perfect way I have seen!

cool sentence haha

Posted by dreamdecks on Sep-25-2002 22:20:

Nautica,

I dont look stupid, all i said was i didnt believe you, so i said prove it, and you did, now i believe you.

Cheers,

Dreamer

by the way, where did you get the pic its kinda good?

Posted by nrjizer on Sep-28-2002 07:16:

Re: Ferry...

quote:
Originally posted by DevanteS

WTF is that sven vath flying out of a cannon??

Posted by NooKLeaR on Sep-28-2002 19:02:

beautiful pics, porky!! by the way....what program do u use?

Posted by Sand Leaper on Sep-28-2002 19:34:

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WTF is that sven vath flying out of a cannon??

ROFL

The worst thing is that that old dude actually resembles Sven.Hilarious!!!

Posted by Porky on Oct-24-2002 11:14:

ghostland..

Posted by Porky on Oct-24-2002 11:14:

art of trance...

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