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Posted by Sushipunk on Jun-24-2008 05:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
Shush or I'll buy your house and extort you for rent...



Posted by Lira on Jul-07-2008 04:09:

How was your interview, RJT? In my case, as soon as I saw the interviewers and listened to my heart, I decided not to go there this year, as I realised I would be making a huge mistake. I was glad to know I took the 2nd best grade in their examination though, losing just to a guy that had to study only English (I was examined in both English and Japanese) but who had studied in the best school of engineering in Brazil.

Anyway, I'm still rooting for you


Posted by gehzumteufel on Jul-07-2008 04:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
How was your interview, RJT? In my case, as soon as I saw the interviewers and listened to my heart, I decided not to go there this year, as I realised I would be making a huge mistake. I was glad to know I took the 2nd best grade in their examination though, losing just to a guy that had to study only English (I was examined in both English and Japanese) but who had studied in the best school of engineering in Brazil.

Anyway, I'm still rooting for you

What!? You decided NOT to go!? Bad decision imho, but I am unaware of your extenuating circumstances that influenced this decision.


Posted by zoogla on Jul-07-2008 06:47:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
cartoon so much better than the movie *ugh*


um ok

my sis is going to Korea to teach English and I have several friends there already.


Posted by Lira on Jul-07-2008 18:21:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
What!? You decided NOT to go!? Bad decision imho, but I am unaware of your extenuating circumstances that influenced this decision.

Well, maybe I should say I was more like a drug-free Spad talking to the dude in the chair, but, I certainly don't think that is the best approach. I just couldn't be bothered to act in any other way anymore and, as a matter of fact, I almost decided not to apply at all (I handed all the documents in the last minute), but I thought it didn't hurt to at least try and think it about more carefully.

When I received a phone call telling me that I had been approved for the interview, I gave it a lot of thought. Do I even want to go any more? What would I do in Japan would take me where I want?

I can't be arsed to tell my whole story but... I just realised that wasn't what I wanted for me in that moment. There's little I live for, but no way I'm going to give that up.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Jul-07-2008 18:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Well, maybe I should say I was more like a drug-free Spad talking to the dude in the chair, but, I certainly don't think that is the best approach. I just couldn't be bothered to act in any other way anymore and, as a matter of fact, I almost decided not to apply at all (I handed all the documents in the last minute), but I thought it didn't hurt to at least try and think it about more carefully.

When I received a phone call telling me that I had been approved for the interview, I gave it a lot of thought. Do I even want to go any more? What would I do in Japan would take me where I want?

I can't be arsed to tell my whole story but... I just realised that wasn't what I wanted for me in that moment. There's little I live for, but no way I'm going to give that up.

Ahh well, I can concede you made the right decision for you at the time.


Posted by RJT on Jul-07-2008 18:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
How was your interview, RJT? In my case, as soon as I saw the interviewers and listened to my heart, I decided not to go there this year, as I realised I would be making a huge mistake. I was glad to know I took the 2nd best grade in their examination though, losing just to a guy that had to study only English (I was examined in both English and Japanese) but who had studied in the best school of engineering in Brazil.

Anyway, I'm still rooting for you


Similar ending, bit of a different tale.

The cliffs notes version follows...

I had my interview on Sunday, it was a group interview and a teaching demonstration, I thought it went very well. At the end, 8 of the 16 there were asked back for a second interview, I was one of them. I had a "personal" interview the next day in which I had to give one 5 minute teaching demonstration that I knew about, and one that was a surprise. I also thought the personal interview went well, and though it was difficult, genuinely felt I had done the best I possibly could have.

They told me I would find out within two weeks whether or not I would be offered a position, and I heard back from them yesterday. I was not offered a position, but was encouraged to re-apply (basically "Thanks, but no thanks" ).

So now I don't know what my plan is. I applied for four full time jobs in Milwaukee today, none of them are teaching - but I really have no clue what's coming next, if I'm going to apply to other programs in other countries, or what pretty much any of my plans are beyond the next two weeks.

I guess either try for some other programs or get a decent full time job in Milwaukee and try to get right back into grad school within a year or so would be preferable. But yeah, I really don't know, and don't know what to think about all of it either.

/emoJTrant


Posted by Clovis on Jul-07-2008 18:51:

You should start a big thread on how rejection has turned you gay and you're gonna go back and live with your parents who wanna disown you.


That leaves Myra and the cat...hmm, we'll think of something for them later.


Posted by verndogs on Jul-07-2008 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
I guess either try for some other programs or get a decent full time job in Milwaukee and try to get right back into grad school within a year or so would be preferable. But yeah, I really don't know, and don't know what to think about all of it either.

/emoJTrant


Ouch. Sorry to hear.

Keep on applying. Don't let this discourage you.


Posted by elFreak on Jul-07-2008 18:59:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Similar ending, bit of a different tale.

The cliffs notes version follows...

I had my interview on Sunday, it was a group interview and a teaching demonstration, I thought it went very well. At the end, 8 of the 16 there were asked back for a second interview, I was one of them. I had a "personal" interview the next day in which I had to give one 5 minute teaching demonstration that I knew about, and one that was a surprise. I also thought the personal interview went well, and though it was difficult, genuinely felt I had done the best I possibly could have.

They told me I would find out within two weeks whether or not I would be offered a position, and I heard back from them yesterday. I was not offered a position, but was encouraged to re-apply (basically "Thanks, but no thanks" ).

So now I don't know what my plan is. I applied for four full time jobs in Milwaukee today, none of them are teaching - but I really have no clue what's coming next, if I'm going to apply to other programs in other countries, or what pretty much any of my plans are beyond the next two weeks.

I guess either try for some other programs or get a decent full time job in Milwaukee and try to get right back into grad school within a year or so would be preferable. But yeah, I really don't know, and don't know what to think about all of it either.

/emoJTrant


go to korea


Posted by RJT on Jul-07-2008 19:01:

quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
go to korea


Do you know of any good programs that have contracts that begin and end each month?



Anything you could recommend would be epic, Jay. Didn't want to bother you now because I know you're in transit.


Posted by chrisday on Jul-07-2008 19:08:

I havent read all the thread so I may be repeating certain elements...

Japan as far as I know is a difficult country to get a working visa for, I was highly considering it, but was told as a UK citizen it is a first come first served basis which you have to apply for at the start of the year, and a maximum of 300 or something equaly is stupid as that are issued.

I decided to go Australia, partly because of the weather, partly because of the girls and mainly because there are many job prospects there!!

I have a couple of people I know who are teaching in China, Its suppose to be ridiculously easy to get a job, It may not be Tokyo, but it will still be a great experience in a different culture.

I would check the forums on LonelyPlanet and RealGap for more advice.

GoodLuck.


Posted by verndogs on Jul-07-2008 19:09:

Rob

Have you tried www.daveseslcafe.com?


Posted by Slylee on Jul-07-2008 19:09:

u are more than welcome to email my mom on this matter. she would love to give u some input and advice about it. she spent a year teaching english in japan from an L.A. based company.


Posted by RJT on Jul-07-2008 19:12:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
Rob

Have you tried www.daveseslcafe.com?


Yup, love that site! Definitely just trying to figure out how to get my feet on the ground following school right now - I don't know, same thing I'd have had to do had I gotten the job, maybe I'm just tweaking out about it a bit more now not really having anything on the horizon at the moment.

Blech. Just a bit of mindless anxiety, I'm certain it will get sorted.


Posted by nchs09 on Jul-07-2008 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Similar ending, bit of a different tale.

The cliffs notes version follows...

I had my interview on Sunday, it was a group interview and a teaching demonstration, I thought it went very well. At the end, 8 of the 16 there were asked back for a second interview, I was one of them. I had a "personal" interview the next day in which I had to give one 5 minute teaching demonstration that I knew about, and one that was a surprise. I also thought the personal interview went well, and though it was difficult, genuinely felt I had done the best I possibly could have.

They told me I would find out within two weeks whether or not I would be offered a position, and I heard back from them yesterday. I was not offered a position, but was encouraged to re-apply (basically "Thanks, but no thanks" ).

So now I don't know what my plan is. I applied for four full time jobs in Milwaukee today, none of them are teaching - but I really have no clue what's coming next, if I'm going to apply to other programs in other countries, or what pretty much any of my plans are beyond the next two weeks.

I guess either try for some other programs or get a decent full time job in Milwaukee and try to get right back into grad school within a year or so would be preferable. But yeah, I really don't know, and don't know what to think about all of it either.

/emoJTrant
did you see my 10 places to donate your time to thread?


Posted by winston on Jul-07-2008 20:13:

Honestly, I think you'd be one fuckin' great teacher.


Posted by RJT on Jul-07-2008 20:31:

quote:
Originally posted by diggerz
Honestly, I think you'd be one fuckin' great teacher.


Awwww, thanks boss

Yeah, I'm going to keep trying - I just need to figure out the when and where again. I certainly didn't expect the first shot to be perfect, but definitely thought I may have gotten it.

Ah well, like I said, definitely going to keep trying.


Posted by Lira on Jul-07-2008 20:44:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Ah well, like I said, definitely going to keep trying.



I always lol @ his "Im-paaah-seee-ball", hehehe

ps.: I've just watched it. Jesus, it's a lot gayer than I thought


Posted by aBigWreck on Jul-07-2008 21:29:

I've had a couple of friends who have done this and loved it. I'm considering going to Europe to teach for many of the same reasons as you are. I've never been able to afford to travel and if I worked overseas, I would be able to not just see other cultures but immerse myself within them.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jul-08-2008 00:16:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Do you know of any good programs that have contracts that begin and end each month?



Anything you could recommend would be epic, Jay. Didn't want to bother you now because I know you're in transit.


the program i was thinking about doing had a deadline of june 15th or something for the fall semester. you might be too late bro. here's the link anyways though.

http://talk.mest.go.kr or http://www.chkec.org


edit: use the first link, the second one is all in korean


Posted by zoogla on Jul-08-2008 00:17:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
I was not offered a position, but was encouraged to re-apply (basically "Thanks, but no thanks" ).

your interpretation is not necessarily true. If this company is really a good one (i.e. reputable and pay would be better than other competitors, based on your research) then I would ask the interviewer for some critical feedback, work on it, and apply again. You were not selected based on their demand at that point in time and based on the other candidates available. You have a different personality and skill-set that will differentiate you so find out what your weakness is, work on it, and I guarantee you you'll be in.

/


Posted by Bulgatti on Jul-08-2008 01:34:

Karma.


Posted by RJT on Jul-08-2008 01:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Bulgatti
Karma.




Yes, that must be it.

Though that obviously begs the question of when it is that karma is going to shit on you for having nothing better to do than creating multiple alts on an internet message board?



I really can't imagine the karmic wheel finding someone like you worth more than me, so even if you are right, I'm sure I'm fine.

Thanks for reassuring me.


Posted by Frenchie on Jul-08-2008 01:41:

Come teach in Toronto. We have just as many Asians as there are in Asia.


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