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Posted by Clovis on Jul-06-2008 09:33:

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
lol. can't believe i missed this!

Just for the sake of my Datty poo. He had nothing to do with the naming of the cd and tracks in the cd.

He was just told to mix em.


But yeah..... Doesn't stop me from being under him.. RAWRRRRRRR


Yeah the name was all Mel's idea.


Obviously.


Posted by Bulgatti on Jul-08-2008 03:27:

No. Just threads like this.


Posted by stev�sto on Jul-08-2008 13:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Bulgatti
No. Just threads like this.


were you being funny or did you actually forget that threads on forums = internet?


Posted by Guest on Jul-08-2008 13:58:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Oh man, I see what you did there. Vicious cycle, eh?

Edit: And to answer your question, it's both. The people are generally idiots and the only things that are actually underground are caves filled with piping hot magma.

That doesn't have anything to do with music.



you mean lava...


Posted by RJT on Jul-08-2008 13:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
you mean lava...


It's not lava until it reaches the surface.


Posted by david.michael on Jul-08-2008 14:41:

Okay, I think I've got it figured out.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-08-2008 15:58:

LOL.


Posted by RJT on Jul-08-2008 16:03:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
Okay, I think I've got it figured out.

[g]http://www.dmichael.org/pics/800px-Earth-crust-cutaway-english.svg.jpg[/img]


Oh man, epic.


Posted by nefardec on Jul-08-2008 17:58:

fantastic


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-08-2008 18:00:

So if Tiesto is up in the atmosphere, where would, say, Britney Spears or 50 Cent be?


Posted by david.michael on Jul-08-2008 18:02:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
So if Tiesto is up in the atmosphere, where would, say, Britney Spears or 50 Cent be?


Depends on their Jesus pose. I've never seen their Jesus pose.


Posted by gl.tch on Jul-08-2008 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
there will always be underground music.


you just have to accept that most new house/techno/trance/etc are no longer that underground anymore for these reasons


i am working on a fairly reactionary project for my architectural thesis actually that deals with this -

basically i am designing a cooperative living/producing/performing center for cutting edge art and music. (it's in friedrichshain - I probably should have chosen a lesser known site like somewhere in denmark or chile, but I chose friedrichshain for the public support it would receive)

it's meant to be isolated from popular culture and the musical zeitgeist

the idea is that these artists (a lot of experimental musicians) create in a cooperative yet eremitic environment, and their creations are only experienced within the building in specific 'ritual' spaces (event spaces which can be used for public assembly, parties, exhibitions etc). The only way their productions can be shared with the external world is either in this live performance 'ritual' or through a store where analog recordings can be purchased. These two spaces are the only bridges between the interior productive world and the external consumptive world. Nothing else will be known about this center except its mysterious and subdued presence and the underground current that runs through it.

The idea is to create a unique scene and creative center of gravity within the urban fabric of friedrichshain that is completely unique and limited to this one building.


One way to think about what I want to do is, imagine that record labels like Perlon and Basic Channel were tribes or monastic orders.

anyways this is my proposal to save the underground slash thesis haha


ps i am writing music for this thesis and making a sound installation so I will share these when they are done in December.


intertesting idea...however this sounds so "underground" that it's about to cave in!

i am wary of any "standpoint" theory that would privilege one environment over another. I would also argue that sequestering your art and restricting access is repressive and could ultimately stunt the creative process. Moreover, there's a pretty good chance that anything produced w/in the confines of this compound would be irrelevent to anyone outside of its walls. How can you make such demands of art?

IMO underground is the spirit of DIY that got this scene started.


Posted by bas on Jul-08-2008 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
Okay, I think I've got it figured out.


That's bullshit. I've never seen Dubfire in the CORe


Posted by stev�sto on Jul-08-2008 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
That's bullshit. I've never seen Dubfire in the CORe


i can almost hear a million groans across the globe. that was really bad. do i have to call your mom too?


Posted by david.michael on Jul-08-2008 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
That's bullshit. I've never seen Dubfire in the CORe


So wait, does that make Dave Dresden more underground than Dubfire?


Posted by noikeee on Jul-08-2008 21:03:

Where did this Dubfire = underground joke came from..? I have a vague idea that he claimed to be underground in some interview but I'm not sure how/where/when.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-08-2008 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by noikeee
Where did this Dubfire = underground joke came from..? I have a vague idea that he claimed to be underground in some interview but I'm not sure how/where/when.

Yeah, there was some interview when he was talking about "keeping it underground." I don't remember the exact wording.


Posted by nefardec on Jul-08-2008 21:38:

gateway to the underground


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-08-2008 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
gateway to the underground

quote:
Originally posted by Dubfire
A lot of people within my inner circle thought I was crazy to go back underground, to start from scratch.



You're crazy, Dubfire! It's dangerous underground!


Posted by nefardec on Jul-08-2008 22:02:

this is a petition to spam dubfire's myspace comments with things like


"dude, don't go back underground, YOU CRAAZZY!"


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-08-2008 22:03:

Heh.

Too late -- he's already there!


Posted by RJT on Jul-08-2008 22:23:

Though he's my hero, Burridge also gave an interview where he beat the "Dubfire is making awesome underground records" drum.

It made me sad.


Posted by Clovis on Jul-08-2008 22:37:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Though he's my hero, Burridge also gave an interview where he beat the "Dubfire is making awesome underground records" drum.

It made me sad.



Steve Lawler said Dubfire is "shit hot right now" which says a lot about his current taste in music...


Posted by gl.tch on Jul-09-2008 18:47:

so underground is inversely proportional to popularity?


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