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Originally posted by MarkT she sounds like white trash, to be honest

she is beyond white trash.

That event was pathetic.

Such a demonstration of the most mediocre policies, passion and pathetic vision for a flag waiving mess that is america.

Mccain is a great man and would be a great 1 term president in a post nixon era, or an advisor to Obama. But a leader with a vision he is not, a leader in the battlegrounds he may be.

I am personally uncomfortable with a leader who has directly killed other humans even if in a war. And he is in the blood thirsty party. Bad Combo.

I laugh when those think that Obama wont win; and worse that think he shouldnt. To those in disfavour, do that math. The odds are stacked heavily, very heavily in their favour. To assume that those on the fence would sway towards Mccain is nonsensical, and in a terrain that see's a 10 percent higher amount more "typically" democratic voters eligble in a debacle that is the fault of repblican party, during a corrupt and illegal war time, and a quasi- economic freeze; is not doing their math.

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Originally posted by 7-4-7 That event was pathetic. Such a demonstration of the most mediocre policies, passion and pathetic vision for a flag waiving mess that is america. Mccain is a great man and would be a great 1 term president in a post nixon era, or an advisor to Obama. But a leader with a vision he is not, a leader in the battlegrounds he may be. I am personally uncomfortable with a leader who has directly killed other humans even if in a war. And he is in the blood thirsty party. Bad Combo. I laugh when those think that Obama wont win; and worse that think he shouldnt. To those in disfavour, do that math. The odds are stacked heavily, very heavily in their favour. To assume that those on the fence would sway towards Mccain is nonsensical, and in a terrain that see's a 10 percent higher amount more "typically" democratic voters eligble in a debacle that is the fault of repblican party, during a corrupt and illegal war time, and a quasi- economic freeze; is not doing their math.

While I also think that Obama will win (not by much though and anything could happen from now until election day), you may just be giving Americans too much credit in that last paragraph. The fact that Bush was elected at all is amazing to me...but he did it TWICE!

man i need to move

I really enjoy that you all are debating an election in which you have no say and doing a nice job of it.
Sadly, no one in the states ever has a conversation about the political races in other countries... further evidence of our self-centeredness. Seeing your replies made me wish I lived somewhere where more citizens were in the know about world news.
I also love that I ate at a restaurant in London on my way home from Toronto and saw three or four painted pictures mocking George Bush. You would be hard pressed to find a restaurant owner in the states who even KNEW who the leaders of Canada are.

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Originally posted by MissNick I really enjoy that you all are debating an election in which you have no say and doing a nice job of it. Sadly, no one in the states ever has a conversation about the political races in other countries... further evidence of our self-centeredness. Seeing your replies made me wish I lived somewhere where more citizens were in the know about world news. I also love that I ate at a restaurant in London on my way home from Toronto and saw three or four painted pictures mocking George Bush. You would be hard pressed to find a restaurant owner in the states who even KNEW who the leaders of Canada are.

uh...maybe because the results of the U.S. election have a substantial impact on Canada and many Canadians, while the result of a Canadian election means jack shit to most Americans?

and by your logic, it's OTHER countries whose inhabitants are self-centred if they don't discuss external politics, only their own.

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Originally posted by MissNick I really enjoy that you all are debating an election in which you have no say and doing a nice job of it. Sadly, no one in the states ever has a conversation about the political races in other countries... further evidence of our self-centeredness. Seeing your replies made me wish I lived somewhere where more citizens were in the know about world news. I also love that I ate at a restaurant in London on my way home from Toronto and saw three or four painted pictures mocking George Bush. You would be hard pressed to find a restaurant owner in the states who even KNEW who the leaders of Canada are.

Growing up in North Carolina I think the schooling is a big part of an American's ignorance to the outside world. Our 9th grade World Geography consisted of about two weeks on the world and the rest was a very detailed look into the United States. Never learned anything else after that.



There's something AWESOME that can be said about this election though. The US is either going to have its first African-American president or first female vice president. That's change all in itself

Funny how palin is "white trash". If she were a left wing pro choice candidate the lefties would probably be slamming anyone who wouldnt give her any credit as a sexist.

I do agree with drilling as an option to persue right now. Until we are able to further our renewable energy we need to take what's there. I like T Boone Pickens' idea. Use the energy that we already have in north america now to buy time to develop REAL alternatives in renewable energy. The technology still isnt quite there yet. Why send trillions of dollars overseas when what we need is right here?

Or we can do what obama wants and try to build wind farms without new sources of traditional energy. California tried to do that under a democrat government of course. Give arnie a call and see how thats working out..heheh

As for obama talking BS about nafta to win votes. I guess hes definately taking a page from the mcguinty handbook isnt he? And yet you guys would still vote for a guy that talks out of both sides of his mouth? Give me a break.

Btw because everyone thinks that obama is a shoe in i wouldnt be surprised to see compton, chicago's south side, etc burn the night mccain is elected... im just saying...

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer You touched on the Democrats economic plans.I would like to see what the Republicans have in mind?and what they have to offer?so far in the last 3 days they havent said a word about economy.All I heard is DRILL DRILL DRILL as far as their energy plan goes.

Look at the stance he's taking on taxes.
Bush implemented a tax cut for the country's highest earners (and corporations, I believe) in 2001 and 2003, and McCain intends to make those permanent. The high earner tax cuts expire soon and only benefit those making $250k+. He's promised lower and middle class tax cuts later, but wants to raise taxes on dividends and capital gains. I believe he also wants to halt the federal gas tax for 3 mths to help American's at the pump. (Kind of a silly proposition because who knows where gas prices will be by the time that ever gets implemented...it's just election rhetoric, imo.)

There was a really good piece in the Post last weekend some time on each party and the economy (yes I actually purchased and read the post, but it was the cottage and the post and celebrity magazines are acceptable there).

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Originally posted by Jayx1 As for obama talking BS about nafta to win votes. I guess hes definately taking a page from the mcguinty handbook isnt he? And yet you guys would still vote for a guy that talks out of both sides of his mouth? Give me a break.

haha. I actually don't think I can vote liberal any more because Dion is so not a PM, but I don't want to vote NDP and there's a few uncertainties about Harper that make me unsure. Nevermind that Harper just doled out $100M or so to prolong the pain at the Ford plant - a key issue for me that had previously brought me closer to the conservative side.

I'm looking forward to the debates in the coming weeks - unfortunately we don't get the kind of time and media coverage as US elections do, which I think provide the public more information and more time to make a decision.

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Originally posted by Skipper He's promised lower and middle class tax cuts later

Even I'm not buying that. How many Republicans have promised across-the-board income tax reductions and never come through on those?

Count on one thing though: If Obama does get elected, taxes are going to go waaaay up. There's no other conceivable means of supporting his socialist policies. At least the elephants won't raise taxes.

Also, keep in mind one thing folks: in an economic recession, high corporate taxes are just about the worst possible thing to have, so even though there may appear to be no direct benefit to Joe Sixpack, lower corporate taxes may very well help him keep his job. Of course, the simplest macroeconomics seem to be beyond the grasp of most people here and most voters in general, so I'm expecting it to reflect negatively on McCain anyway...

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Originally posted by DigiNut Of course, the simplest macroeconomics seem to be beyond the grasp of most people here

Then why bother participating in this thread? If this board is so beneath you intellectually, do us all a favor and quit posting FFS.

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Originally posted by Skipper Then why bother participating in this thread?

For the sake of those outside the "most" grouping. I thought that was obvious.

I'm sure you'd like for me to quit posting. That will come at a time of my choosing, not yours.

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Originally posted by DigiNut For the sake of those outside the "most" grouping. I thought that was obvious. I'm sure you'd like for me to quit posting. That will come at a time of my choosing, not yours.

You are the same guy who tried to say that the Bushes aren't neoconvervatives right?

Macroeconomics eh? Hmm...it's kind of funny because, at best, economics is THEORY only and NOBODY can predict what will happen.

It's interesting that whenever the Democrats take over the Presidency, the economy in the US booms, but when the Democrats are ousted (Reagan, Bush senior, Bush junior), the economy practically goes into recession. There was a graph floating around here that measured economic growth in the US since FDR's time. But I'm sure you have a list of BS reasons to explain that away.

I love how you, an insignificant conservative message board poster on a fucking EDM website, thinks you can predict exactly what's going to happen when Obama takes office. It's hilarious.

Here we go with Digi again putting everyone down and questioning their level of intelligence.


Seiously fuckin move to Florida and join the rest of your gang down there.

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Originally posted by Skipper Then why bother participating in this thread? If this board is so beneath you intellectually, do us all a favor and quit posting FFS.

LOL *bows*

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jayx1
I do agree with drilling as an option to persue right now. Until we are able to further our renewable energy we need to take what's there. I like T Boone Pickens' idea. Use the energy that we already have in north america now to buy time to develop REAL alternatives in renewable energy. The technology still isnt quite there yet. Why send trillions of dollars overseas when what we need is right here?
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I like Picken's idea as well...as long as it's done in a manner that won't rape the environment (it's been done before!). The US needs to steer away from their huge dependency on other countries for oil.

I watched Palin and McCain's speech and have grown to like them a bit more....still don't think either candidate is suitable for presidency but the last thing the US needs are the high taxes Obama will bring.

Hopefully someone can come up with an effective energy source ASAP so the rest of the world doesn't have to depend on these twattish countries.

what possibly made you like them more?

She's a reptitive, religous nutjob red neck and McCain has basically sold himself out to get the support of the conservative (rich, religious, white people) base.

He has offered nothing new on energy except an empty promise to drill more and seek out alternative energies (yet his record has seen him deny tax breaks for wind and solar power companies). He will just keep giving tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans and energy and oil sectors.

Do you like her more because she's a hockey mom and sold the state plane on *cue hick accent* "ebay" (actually not even true according to CNN)? Do you like McCain because he's a "maverick" (also proven not to be the case anymore) and because he's a "hero" from a war that's been over for 35 years?

Yeah...lots to like there.

I went to see Religulous (Bill Maher's TIFF flick about religious extemism in the US) and as he introduced the movie of course Sarah Palin came up. He says "she's got 5 kids, THE REPUBLICANS CANT PULL OUT OF ANYTHING CAN THEY?!"

Isn't Pickens' plan mostly natural gas drilling and technology? I know there's an alternative energy component, but I thought gas was the focus.

I like mccain because i really think that he is sincere. He says what he believes in whether or not it's popular. Kind of reminds me of someone. Haha. But i find that mccain has a lot to say about real issues as opposed to obama who really does rely a lot on rock star type hype.

As for Palin. It's interesting how the so called liberals have shown their true colours. God forbid anyone were to ever even suggest some of the things about clinton as they are flat out saying about Palin. The same people who cried sexism at any critism whatsoever about clinton are the same ones questioning her motherhood? For shame. Is Palin fit for presidency? Probably not. Is Obama? Doubtful as well. But as for the total package and how they would handle high office, i trust mccain far more than obama. Also Obama seems very mcguintyish when it comes to empty promises. I simply dont buy it

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Originally posted by Irishaddict

You should read his myspace page,he said himself that I dont want to have kids.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer You should read his myspace page,he said himself that I dont want to have kids.

yeah i saw that. he looks all kinds of uncomfortable there eh?

strangely enough as much as i disagree with her pro-life and guns stuff, i like her because she has to deal with normal shit like a knocked-up teenager haha.

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Originally posted by Irishaddict yeah i saw that. he looks all kinds of uncomfortable there eh? strangely enough as much as i disagree with her pro-life and guns stuff, i like her because she has to deal with normal shit like a knocked-up teenager haha.

She is bad news all together and as time goes by we ll learn more dirty secrets about her.she is your typical Jesus freak.God help that country if McCain dies.

And McCain has taken the lead!

McCain overtakes Obama in latest opinion polls

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Originally posted by Irishaddict

Talk about a raw deal. All he wanted to do was fuck a drunk chick, and now he is on the stage at the Republican National Convention, on his way to marriage and a baby!

Epic fail.

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