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Posted by Quethas on Oct-24-2008 21:37:

quote:
13. John 00 Fleming UP 2
14. Sean Tyas DOWN 3


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-24-2008 21:40:

What I don't understand is how most of the regular posters and most of the threads discuss good stuff, a lot of it now removed from trance which is generally accepted (or so I thought) as a bit of a dead genre aside from the fringe producers well removed from the superstar circus... and then the results come in and Armin wins yet again.

I guess I either gravitate towards the threads started by people with good taste or MD isn't representative of the 25,000 people who vote and must live on all the other sub-forums.

Posted by adi_hanson on Oct-24-2008 21:52:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
What I don't understand is how most of the regular posters and most of the threads discuss good stuff, a lot of it now removed from trance which is generally accepted (or so I thought) as a bit of a dead genre aside from the fringe producers well removed from the superstar circus... and then the results come in and Armin wins yet again.

I guess I either gravitate towards the threads started by people with good taste or MD isn't representative of the 25,000 people who vote and must live on all the other sub-forums.


trance is like the big titted blonde you keep away from your wife/girlfriend

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-24-2008 22:09:

quote:
Originally posted by adi_hanson
trance is like the big titted blonde you keep away from your wife/girlfriend


Self-whoring, shallow and only interested in money?

Posted by adi_hanson on Oct-24-2008 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Self-whoring, shallow and only interested in money?


no , that thats the wife/girlfriend , im talking about the bit on the side

Posted by bamski on Oct-24-2008 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
What I don't understand is how most of the regular posters and most of the threads discuss good stuff, a lot of it now removed from trance which is generally accepted (or so I thought) as a bit of a dead genre aside from the fringe producers well removed from the superstar circus... and then the results come in and Armin wins yet again.

I guess I either gravitate towards the threads started by people with good taste or MD isn't representative of the 25,000 people who vote and must live on all the other sub-forums.



The TL section is a perfect example of why we (MD & COR) discuss one thing, and the result is another.

All you see is nooby joe random posting all the smilies he can get his hands on, OMG

I'd say that if the poll didn't automatically pop up at every other window from time to time, we'd be looking at something totally different, and the reason is simply that these guys stay the hell away from MD and COR.

And yes, what I'm implying is that the majority of those who voted for Armin, Tijs, PvD and so on are the guys.

Posted by Ian on Oct-24-2008 22:13:

quote:
Originally posted by DuBam
The TL section is a perfect example of why we (MD & COR) discuss one thing, and the result is another.

All you see is nooby joe random posting all the smilies he can get his hands on, OMG

I'd say that if the poll didn't automatically pop up at every other window from time to time, we'd be looking at something totally different, and the reason is simply that these guys stay the hell away from MD and COR.

And yes, what I'm implying is that the majority of those who voted for Armin, Tijs, PvD and so on are the guys.



Posted by bamski on Oct-24-2008 22:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian


yeah i know, sorry 'bout that

Posted by Ian on Oct-24-2008 22:19:

quote:
Originally posted by DuBam
yeah i know, sorry 'bout that


who did you vote for? I voted mostly ta dj's but wish now i'd voted for some of my actual faves

Posted by bamski on Oct-24-2008 22:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
who did you vote for? I voted mostly ta dj's but wish now i'd voted for some of my actual faves


Only thing I did regarding the poll was this reply in the VOTING OPEN!! thread:


quote:
Originally posted by Owsey2008

Atb
Atb
Atb
Atb
Atb

Even though his sets are extremely shit, I still love the man.



quote:
Originally posted by bamski
This is why I lost all respect for these polls.



And I think that first quote sums up the point I was trying to make preeety well.

Posted by Ian on Oct-24-2008 22:33:

yeah. i think it's why i wasn't serious. back in 2003 i might've been but now it's just so much of a joke, with the americanism of trance music, comes the need to absolutely rank everything in a neat little list for reference. Examples of this are when you compare how many names in the early 2 dj mag lists now make it into any list.

Posted by bamski on Oct-24-2008 22:38:

Yeah. I just wish that for one thing, people could at least try to be objective. There we had a guy who wrote that "even though his sets are extremely shit, I still love the man, so I'll just fuck up this whole poll eventhough I think his sets suck monkeyballs".

I fucking love Bam, but that sure as hell doesn't make me think that he was the best dj of 2008.

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-24-2008 22:41:

quote:
Originally posted by DuBam
The TL section is a perfect example of why we (MD & COR) discuss one thing, and the result is another.

All you see is nooby joe random posting all the smilies he can get his hands on, OMG

I'd say that if the poll didn't automatically pop up at every other window from time to time, we'd be looking at something totally different, and the reason is simply that these guys stay the hell away from MD and COR.

And yes, what I'm implying is that the majority of those who voted for Armin, Tijs, PvD and so on are the guys.


Good point. I think those people have basically been bullied out of MD. A few years ago there were huge wars over most of those Top 10 DJs, arguments over whether they were shit or not, posts about "negativity" and so on but they've died down and been replaced by The Deadmau5 Show recently. I guess I was foolish enough to believe that meant those people had matured in taste and experience. I only really browse the top three folders and DJ Promotion these days so there's a large part of this site I don't see.

Posted by Owsey on Oct-24-2008 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by DuBam
Yeah. I just wish that for one thing, people could at least try to be objective. There we had a guy who wrote that "even though his sets are extremely shit, I still love the man, so I'll just fuck up this whole poll eventhough I think his sets suck monkeyballs".

I fucking love Bam, but that sure as hell doesn't make me think that he was the best dj of 2008.


Dude, that was a joke... And I highly doubt I fucked the poll up as I obviously didn't vote ATB 5 times.

Posted by Teezdalien on Oct-24-2008 22:56:

This list has given me facepalms.

Posted by bamski on Oct-24-2008 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Owsey2008
Dude, that was a joke... And I highly doubt I fucked the poll up as I obviously didn't vote ATB 5 times.


Too bad that there are (tens of?) thousands others who don't share your sense of humor.
Twasn't personal, just an example.


edit

Posted by Owsey on Oct-24-2008 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DuBam
Too bad that there are (tens of?) thousands others who don't share your sense of humor.
Twasn't personal, just an example.


edit


Posted by KAKAAKlol on Oct-24-2008 23:09:

1. Armin van Buuren NC
2. Above & Beyond UP 1
12. Aly & Fila UP 2
14. Sean Tyas DOWN 3
18. John O'Callaghan UP 5
19. DJ Shah UP 47
40. Manuel Le Saux DOWN 4
46. Daniel Kandi UP 177
49. Giuseppe Ottaviani UP 1
52. Alex M.OR.P.H. UP 9
62. Stoneface & Terminal UP 19
63. Jon O'Bir DOWN 12
67. Super8 & Tab UP 22
88. Kenneth Thomas DOWN 16
92. John Askew DOWN 30
117. Greg Downey UP 120
118. Talla 2XLC DOWN 32
119. Adam Sheridan UP 51
133. Mark Sherry UP 5
153. Tom Colontonio NE
155. Fast Distance NE
161. Thomas Bronzwaer DOWN 65
162. Paul Miller NE
163. Firestorm DOWN 11
190. Brian Kearney NE
191. Ferry Tayle NE
195. Nitrous Oxide NE
207. Suzy Solar DOWN 79
210. Will Holland NE
211. Filo & Peri DOWN 126
220. Robert Nickson NE
226. George Acosta DOWN 87
229. Thomas Datt DOWN 61
231. Signum DOWN 90



btw fk you all who voted for deadmau5.

Posted by wax10001 on Oct-24-2008 23:14:

this is actually a shame. not avb on #1, that was quite predictable. but shitmou0 on 10 and all this stuff. damn. why not ricardo (who i voted #1) on 10 or 20 at least. he is actually one of the guys who thinks about his music. and certainly not deadwhore. damn.

yeah and westbam on 250-x. i voted for him because i actually listened to him at winterworld 2008 but nevermind.

edit: shitmau251 would be ok.yeah.

Posted by Ian on Oct-24-2008 23:19:

best trance djs in that list:

J00F
Nicholas Bennison
Miika Kuisma (Well not as much 'trance' now)
Orkidea

Posted by Neo95gt on Oct-24-2008 23:38:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Good point. I think those people have basically been bullied out of MD. A few years ago there were huge wars over most of those Top 10 DJs, arguments over whether they were shit or not, posts about "negativity" and so on but they've died down and been replaced by The Deadmau5 Show recently. I guess I was foolish enough to believe that meant those people had matured in taste and experience. I only really browse the top three folders and DJ Promotion these days so there's a large part of this site I don't see.


The Music Discussion forum is an absolute joke. It's nothing but elitists, haters and self proclaimed experts who are actually a bunch of 18 year olders. The rest, bullied out. The loudest people on this forum are the trance haters. However they are obviously outnumbered by the overall TA population. It's a shame because that forum used to be pretty good, well known DJs have even posted about this. Poor moderation.

Posted by bamski on Oct-24-2008 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Neo95gt
The Music Discussion forum is an absolute joke. It's nothing but elitists, haters and self proclaimed experts who are actually a bunch of 18 year olders. The rest, bullied out. The loudest people on this forum are the trance haters. However they are obviously outnumbered by the overall TA population. It's a shame because that forum used to be pretty good, well known DJs have even posted about this. Poor moderation.


Then why aren't you here to right the wrongs we do?

Posted by wax10001 on Oct-25-2008 00:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Neo95gt
The Music Discussion forum is an absolute joke. It's nothing but elitists, haters and self proclaimed experts who are actually a bunch of 18 year olders. The rest, bullied out. The loudest people on this forum are the trance haters. However they are obviously outnumbered by the overall TA population. It's a shame because that forum used to be pretty good, well known DJs have even posted about this. Poor moderation.


actually, its not. im 22 years old, and was listening to trance from 2002 on until mid 2006. but it constantly got worse. i didnt like any vocals and i liked groovy tracks from the beginning on. and there were tracks back then that were groovy and instrumental. but it all got worse, first trance got more and more vocals and after that it adopted the electro cheap housy fart basslines. i never really liked asot & stuff.

so i dont think its a matter of being elitist or so, when we are writing about house and techno and experimental music. its a matter of personal taste and personal engagement. its a shame that the music business (which has adopted trance for some years already) is misleading you to believe that trance is the most advanced and evolved edm. just open your eyes. if you then still like trance its pretty much okay. but theres always other music, kay

Posted by Fledz on Oct-25-2008 00:15:

quote:
Originally posted by DuBam
The TL section is a perfect example of why we (MD & COR) discuss one thing, and the result is another.

All you see is nooby joe random posting all the smilies he can get his hands on, OMG

I'd say that if the poll didn't automatically pop up at every other window from time to time, we'd be looking at something totally different, and the reason is simply that these guys stay the hell away from MD and COR.

And yes, what I'm implying is that the majority of those who voted for Armin, Tijs, PvD and so on are the guys.


Why? So the poll can be dominated by a clear minority and dare I say it "elitist" group of people who can't resist spewing hate about some genre they don't like?

Doing what you're suggesting would only make the poll even more bias and unrepresentative. It would be like holding the US elections in only one state where either of the candidates could win in a landslide.

Sure it would make the MD whores happy but it's not about making you happy.

Posted by bamski on Oct-25-2008 00:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Why? So the poll can be dominated by a clear minority and dare I say it "elitist" group of people who can't resist spewing hate about some genre they don't like?

Doing what you're suggesting would only make the poll even more bias and unrepresentative. It would be like holding the US elections in only one state where either of the candidates could win in a landslide.

Sure it would make the MD whores happy but it's not about making you happy.


Hold on Mister, I didn't suggest a goddamn thing. I just pointed out the reason why it is what it is.

And because SYSTEM-J wondered, and I've been wondering the same thing. I'd say that post of yours was pretty offensive, given the fact that it was totally uncalled for.

MD whore? Gimme a break.

Question, have you ever seen me bash trance as a whole? Thought so.


Edit:

quote:
And yes, what I'm implying is that the majority of those who voted for Armin, Tijs, PvD and so on are the :crazy::tongue3:crazy: guys.


I was about to write "the majority of those who voted for the dj's that ended up in the top ten", instead of naming any names.

Guess why?


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