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U4ea:

once again your wisdom in thought rings a bell true with me.

i am generally paranoid about people. that is why i had so much of an awakening with rolling... through the empathy and euphoria.

however i do see examples of culture from early last century and in history... and i have even recollections of feeling the same way for brief periods of time before i had taken anything... giving me appreciation that the way i am now was facilitated by mdma but that when rolling it is also no different to the everyday. i still love everything the same way. i gain the pleasure from trees for exactly the same reason when schmangled as when i am straight. people are special for exactly the same reasons.

and the older ppl who have been loving the world and going to dance parties for years are often substance free.

i have lots of respect for (hippy) culture and these people.

one day i will be in the right place with the right people and drugs are not necessary .

i also test all my substances...

i have had different effects with 'only' mdma. recently with some good quality pills i have found much less desire to dance and harder to communicate with words... anyone else get this with certain types.

my culprits were versaces and (to a lesser extent) lab grade caps.

hmmm. i know the answer to my situation but am kind of interested in the range of experience and effects on others.

anyone doing mescaline?
how is it


dont know too much about it, would like to hear other ppls experiences

only thing ive heard it that its 10x the trip of mushroom (if you take the same amount), and thats.... f000ked
heh

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Originally posted by verminator anyone doing mescaline? how is it dont know too much about it, would like to hear other ppls experiences only thing ive heard it that its 10x the trip of mushroom (if you take the same amount), and thats.... f000ked heh

when i first did it, the guy who gave it to me said it was E. I liked it alot. for me, mescaline was alot smoother than shrooms and my body adjusted well to them

he he he...

i just got a cactus ... san pedro. he's a bit small but growing. i haven't yet. its just not something you see here... perhaps i dont know where to look. and i dont know if i'll make tea out fo the plant or refine to mescaline (the active component). differing effects apparently...

i think i would like to because of the reference made in the matrix. where mr anderson chats to his mates on the way to find the white rabbit...

interesting head space too. a friend put it to me like this... it has come to us through cultural descent from indigenous peoples of the americas who hold specific rituals to do with its consumption. they are very careful with its use because the legends tell of people who went to the other place and left their spirit or part of their soul there and for ever more search for it restlessly. i am not sure if it possible to find it again.

i look forward to the day when i am prepared to go there and feel confident in doing so. i think that i will incorporate it into a spiritual event within the beauty and peace of natural surrounds.

Re: Re: No more XTC for me........

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Originally posted by TECHno addict Ok after further thought on the situation, i decided to do xtc ONE MORE TIME. And GODDAMN it was good. Just like the old times, felt like i was floating, i loved everyone, and i danced non stop until 8 in the morning!!! So for those of you who have lost that wicked feeling when using........take half a year off!!!!!

Well....duh. I for one can't understand people who do drugs that don't READ UP on it before they try it. First time I dropped by 1.5 years ago I'd read alot about MDMA, seratonin, 5-htp, dopamin and so on, I knew alot about it before I tried it.

It's common sense not to do MDMA too often, or it looses its magic, which would be a shame since it's such a wonderful substance, that everyone should try,

according to the rat researchers...
large doses of vitamin c BEFORE consumption of massive (relative) amounts of mdma was neuroprotective.

firstly the doses of mdma was large enough to produce measurable brain changes in rats

secondly the method of action was postulated as an antioxidant effect

thirdly L-tryptophan a substance available from health food stores is a precursor to seratonin and i find that (subjectively) after having some pills that i feel much better with less wednesday nasties.

do not overdose on pills. there is only so much euphoria you can get. more pills only means more sideeffects and too much seratonin (dont dose up on tryptophan before you roll) can lead to a terrible and frequently fatal condition of seratonin syndrome where your autonomic nervous system goes to shit and you lose the ability to suitably regulate for example: body temperature, muscle tone, blood pressure ect.

beware... take care...

better harder faster with the beats but when it comes to drugs ultimately less is better and nearly exactly the same as more

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Originally posted by TECHno addict Actually Red bull and vodka has been a pretty steady thing for me lately at clubs/parties. I find it a real pick me up. Though a little harsh on the stomach, it still puts a nice little hop in your step. And the redbull straight is a great thing to drink after last call!!

A little something to keep you going through the night and then some would be 2 redbulls and a couple vivren caffeine pills. (be careful on how many you take) usually 2 with 2 redbull. that will put more of a jump in your step lol. good stuff, only thing i would do becides smoke some bud. thats just me though...

:TF:

Just to give you my perspective on the situation (in case you care) I have done ecstacy 4 times in my life, never more than one pill in a night and never more than half a pill at a time. I have only ever seriously rolled once in my life, and that was because I dropped two halves in quick succession after about 8-10 beers - it was like moving in slow motion in case you were wondering.

Anyway, to be honest, I just do pills because of the false sense of energy it gives me. While I'm still pumped at the start of the night I won't do any, but then, as the night goes on and my legs start hurting, I may do a cheeky half to keep me going, and another half after that to sweep me up to a higher sensual level. And even then, I'd only ever do E on a big night never, say, on a Wednesday night down at the pub.

Now perhaps I haven't experienced the highs that some of you guys have, but at the same time I certainly haven't experienced any lows either. When the feeling wears off (I'm always still out partying at this point btw) it's incredibly smooth, so that I never go from rolling my tits off straight into a period of depression or lethargy, but rather the feeling tends to stay with me - in a watered down kinda way - for about 48 hours after dropping. The downside is that I can't sleep properly during this time (I tend to get these fucked up, semi-conscious dreams when trying to sleep after taking E) but at the same time I still feel all tingly and motivated. I do feel on edge at times as well (even a moderately loud sound may send me out of my skin) but generally, from my experience, the come-down experience from restrained ecstacy use is little more than a minor inconvenience.

I'm not condoning it btw, just saying that when done responsibly, ecstacy is a relatively safe drug. Overdo it though (as with anything else) and it's likely to mess you up.

The fond memories I have from taking E far outweigh any potential problems I may have later on (given that, as I am a moderate user, they are likely to be minimal) and I wouldn't trade them for anything.

Without wishing to sound like I'm condoning the stuff, I'd recommend that people do a half a pill on an occasion and tell me - with a straight face - that it didn't make the night more enjoyable. It's not about escaping reality, it's about enhancing it - and whether you get that from a small, white pill or from some other source, surely it all amounts to the same thing in the long run?

Nicely put Renegade, and lucky you for being able to enjoy 1 pill in 2 halves

I wish I could still do that

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Originally posted by WhiteRussian Well....duh. I for one can't understand people who do drugs that don't READ UP on it before they try it. First time I dropped by 1.5 years ago I'd read alot about MDMA, seratonin, 5-htp, dopamin and so on, I knew alot about it before I tried it. It's common sense not to do MDMA too often, or it looses its magic, which would be a shame since it's such a wonderful substance, that everyone should try,

Who said i did it OFTEN??? At most i did it probebly once every 2 weeks and only one at a time. I know people who drop every other day, even go to class tripping out. This thread wasnt started to criticize, it was to offer opinions and share experiences with others. I now know obviously that i was doing it too often before, since i had lost almost all joy that i once experienced with E.

MODERATION...

I believe that with any drug, the more you do of it the effect you start getting from it is not what is intended.....most likely a bad feeling, and ofcourse the damage done to your health!

the most i've done is 4 1/2 pills in 1 nite, yet somehow I still remember Armin's set....along with other things after, after that nite I realized you can keep doing more, but its not worth it....and the crash is even worst after doing some heavy dosage, now I usually take 2 or sometimes even 1, which is about once a month when I goto party, although I party more in the school year (go figure?!?!)

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Originally posted by TECHno addict Who said i did it OFTEN??? At most i did it probebly once every 2 weeks and only one at a time. I know people who drop every other day, even go to class tripping out. This thread wasnt started to criticize, it was to offer opinions and share experiences with others. I now know obviously that i was doing it too often before, since i had lost almost all joy that i once experienced with E.

Well then you finally realised how to use MDMA then! Good,
Now share that knowledge with your friends who drop more often than you!
My point was that if you had read up more before you tried the first time you probably wouldn't have had the bad experiences with it that you obviously had,
It's such a harmless and nice treat when done in moderation... *sighs happily*

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Originally posted by innominate he he he... i just got a cactus ... san pedro. he's a bit small but growing. i haven't yet. its just not something you see here... perhaps i dont know where to look. and i dont know if i'll make tea out fo the plant or refine to mescaline (the active component). differing effects apparently...

cant you boil slices of the cactus and drink the water you boil it in & eat the slices that are boiled

ive heard that gives you a f00ked trip a friend got some san pedro w/shots himself so in some months he got his own farm in the end hehehe

Is it me or are blue pills usually really good??? Is there a reason why certain colours of pills are typically better than others????

colour got nothing to do with it at all heh

its the substances =p
colour = some kind of substance too heh

Thread revival...

The man who started this thread has reached his proudest moment: 4000 POSTS behind his belt !

To some, this is nothing, but we're proud of him and he's happy himself... see, a whole thread dedicated to this monumentous event... LOL right here...

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar Thread revival... The man who started this thread has reached his proudest moment: 4000 POSTS behind his belt ! To some, this is nothing, but we're proud of him and he's happy himself... see, a whole thread dedicated to this monumentous event... LOL right here...

so what? after the first post hes on *how* many E pills since?!

heh|

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Originally posted by Slylee the only drug i do now is music u should try it.

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Originally posted by mezzir

yah that is humorous...just desserts or something...

HEY! a new book title: "Just Desserts for the Uncompromising Stim Head"

or something|

So, who has the most posts on TA.

Good read... lol

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Originally posted by Floorwhore I've been a pretty consistant xtc user for about 2 years now. I've had great times in the past on the drug, but the past few times ive used have turned out to be some of the worst experiences of my life. This is why ive decided to stop doing this mentally damaging drug. The last 3 or 4 times of using, my buzz has worn off quicker, and the come down has been far worse, resulting in me throwing up from such bad migraines. The feeling of depression and emptyness isnt too swell either. I dont regret doing E, since it is the reason i got into the electronic music scene. But i thought i'd post this to other users who have considered quitting, and maybe make people realize you can enjoy raves/parties without the chemicals.

Jeff, this is why I try to take breaks every once in a while dude. I was at the same point as you, but it got to me much quicker. I'd do it on a monthly basis, for 8-9 months...and the last 2 times would be what you're describing. Wears off in about an hour or max, 2. I'd get really depressed after it. Fuck, it just ain't worth it. The last time I rolled was at Sasha and Zabiela in October, and because the pill wore off, and I was seriously tired, I went home before Sasha even finished his set (and I ended up missing Sasha and James B2B). Now since school started, I'm taking my break. I love the drug, it makes the parties infinitely more memorable.

I'll do it again, but not any time soon.

edit I just realized this was posted in June 2002...hah, Jeff...changed your mind in the meantime eh?

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar Thread revival... The man who started this thread has reached his proudest moment: 4000 POSTS behind his belt ! To some, this is nothing, but we're proud of him and he's happy himself... see, a whole thread dedicated to this monumentous event... LOL right here...

Only 4000?



n00b.




**EDIT, I just pasted 5000 real posts

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Originally posted by Boomer187 Only 4000? n00b. **EDIT, I just pasted 5000 real posts

holy crapshait.

How many counting that cor thingy? Like 10,000?

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