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Posted by R!CH on Jun-02-2009 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Jim Carson
I am not just saying that because I play there.


nor do i fault you for taking this opportunity to cozy up to the hand that cuts your check, but the fact remains that circus has trouble attracting a broad range of a-list djs on a regular basis like its competitors. you can't really pin that fact on anything other than its unwillingness to update the venue to its competitors' standards.


Posted by Jim Carson on Jun-02-2009 01:10:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
nor do i fault you for taking this opportunity to cozy up to the hand that cuts your check, but the fact remains that circus has trouble attracting a broad range of a-list djs on a regular basis like its competitors. you can't really pin that fact on anything other than its unwillingness to update the venue to its competitors' standards.


LOL @ Cozy Your statement regarding the update on the venue is fair enough. As a DJ, I take into account the decor and venue to some degree, but I am much more in it for the music and the people's reaction to the music and how everyone is enjoying themselves. Thus, it probably doesn't bother me as much as some people and I appreciate the uniqueness of the venue in relation to other venues.

I was having a drink with a friend the other day and he mentioned the same thing about the update. I understand it is an issue to some. Still, the parties have been going off at Circus this year and I am impressed with its resurgence as one of LA's top electronic music Saturday night weeklys.


Posted by R!CH on Jun-02-2009 01:38:



i may not have been to circus in years, but even from the standpoint of its physical layout--which i assume is the same--the main room dj booth provides no sense of safety or privacy from a mob attack. i forget who it was, but i remember reading a review of some night there where it took the headliner 15 minutes to get from the booth to the exit after the show because of overzealous fans closing in from every direction. that would be quite annoying to me as a touring dj seeing how orderly and professional exit strategies are at other clubs and festivals. how can circus seriously expect to attract the 'dj mag' titans without a more comfortable dj booth? or one where the dj can gather his traveling entourage within? the answer is they can't because the working space is important to big djs who command big audiences. now as a patron i like how low the booth sits to the ground, but as a dj that degree of intimacy with the faces that populate the front row does nothing to inspire a memorable set. other hollywood megaclubs understand the virtue of having an elevated booth. and with all the square-footage they're working with, why keep the booth in that awkward corner? every large and successful club i can think of fills in from the back, and for a good reason. and how about arranging the main room with some sense of symmetry of space? i guarantee you that would solve much of the acoustic problems in that club. these are just my 2 cents, but my experience with mismanaged clubs is that the powers that be are unwilling to admit to any problems so the venue will continue to suffer that second-rate image until ownership changes hands.


Posted by Jim Carson on Jun-02-2009 02:01:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH


i may not have been to circus in years, but even from the standpoint of its physical layout--which i assume is the same--the main room dj booth provides no sense of safety or privacy from a mob attack. i forget who it was, but i remember reading a review of some night there where it took the headliner 15 minutes to get from the booth to the exit after the show because of overzealous fans closing in from every direction. that would be quite annoying to me as a touring dj seeing how orderly and professional exit strategies are at other clubs and festivals. how can circus seriously expect to attract the 'dj mag' titans without a more comfortable dj booth? or one where the dj can gather his traveling entourage within? the answer is they can't because the working space is important to big djs who command big audiences. now as a patron i like how low the booth sits to the ground, but as a dj that degree of intimacy with the faces that populate the front row does nothing to inspire a memorable set. other hollywood megaclubs understand the virtue of having an elevated booth. and with all the square-footage they're working with, why keep the booth in that awkward corner? every large and successful club i can think of fills in from the back, and for a good reason. and how about arranging the main room with some sense of symmetry of space? i guarantee you that would solve much of the acoustic problems in that club. these are just my 2 cents, but my experience with mismanaged clubs is that the powers that be are unwilling to admit to any problems so the venue will continue to suffer that second-rate image until ownership changes hands.


The dj booth has changed. The DJ is up on a stage in the center of the room facing outwards toward the patio.


Posted by R!CH on Jun-02-2009 02:08:

that doesn't like it was when i was there, do you have a pic?


Posted by Apeattack on Jun-02-2009 02:18:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
that doesn't like it was when i was there, do you have a pic?


There are number of videos of the new set up in some previous Circus threads. Here is one video from May 9th, when Rank-1 played:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjSt...feature=related


Posted by Jim Carson on Jun-02-2009 02:23:


Posted by R!CH on Jun-02-2009 02:35:

well that's certainly an improvement, even though i can't really tell where it's situated in the club.


Posted by GPC on Jun-02-2009 04:10:

One of the best thing about Circus was the DJ booth. Everyone I know loved the old location.


Posted by approximalia on Jun-02-2009 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Jim Carson
Seriosuly. Circus is just as good if not better than Avalon or Vanguard for your all-around, peak-time, raving, euphoric nightclub experience. Before January 2009, you might be able to say the club was lacking. But since January 2009, the club has been packed most weekends and the music, talent, people, and atmosphere has been incredible. Did anyone see the lighting that was brought in for Rank 1? Were you there when Matt Darey played? Have you been there when Joseph Mordeno and I have packed the back room until 4am?

It has been a great time since January and I am not just saying that because I play there. I know a lot of people that appreciate Circus and have the time of their lives there.


Jim's absolutely right!

It irritates me to no end when people who haven't even set foot in the club in the past 6 months if not longer talk crap about Circus.


Posted by R!CH on Jun-02-2009 04:27:

quote:
Originally posted by approximalia
Jim's absolutely right!

It irritates me to no end when people who haven't even set foot in the club in the past 6 months if not longer talk crap about Circus.


it's unfortunate for you that i have opinions that last longer than 6 months and am unafraid to state them. your emotional attachment to a building is adorable, however i suggest you get over it as unresolved stress has been proven to be bad for your health and wellbeing. regardless of my unwillingness to continue visiting venues that have no appeal to me on a minimally biannual basis, it appears as if the issues i've highlighted concerning the venue are those shared by others who may have visited in the last 6 months. certainly by those whose job it is to dj professionally around the world. (why do you think spundae left?)


Posted by Jim Carson on Jun-02-2009 04:34:

quote:
Originally posted by GPC
One of the best thing about Circus was the DJ booth. Everyone I know loved the old location.


I like the new set-up just for variety's sake, but the old booth certainly was the shit.

Some of my favorite nights back at Circus were back in the Giant days when Pete Tong, DJ Dan, and Anthony Pappa headlined. Anthony Papa had the whole crowd tranced. My friend Nancy and I were dancing in the booth with the photographer. I was 21 or 22 at the time and just loving the whole 21 + nightclub experience coming from the rave scene where you couldn't get your alcohol buzz on. There was such an energy buzz about the nights there. Sometimes the line would be an hour long to get in. I think this was when they did it on purpose to make it seem like the club was over capacity. Don't quote me on that though I've felt that energy and buzz at Circus a few times this past year and that is what I live for. There have been some really good vibes and excitement about the music, people, and DJs at Circus these past 5 months. Love is in the air.

So to anyone who hasn't been to Circus in the past 5 months. I urge you to give it a chance and see what a good time people are having and how great the music is

NO BS. Just good times, good people, and good music. 'Nuff said.


Posted by DaveT on Jun-02-2009 04:37:

Here's the problemn.

Everyone thinks that by moving where th DJ booth is and adding more lights resolves the issue the DJs/agencies/promoters have with the venue.

It honestly reminds me of the same issueds DJs/agencies/promoteres/ have/had of another venue(s) when it comes to if tey want their top tier talent there...

It's more than that. You can add lights and move the DJ around, but to those who get around and to the DJs themselves, it's (as it
s been directly described to me) PATCHWORK and while temporarely a cool thing, it doesn't take long to realize that it's nothing more than that.

The change all these DJs/agencies/etc want is the PRESENCE that club has and the impact it could have on that DJ and its potential following...

And as far as whtehr the place has been booked, I have been in LA pretty much since mid-February and the city lately seems to be really lacking osome great trance nights other than the up-and-comers Circus is bringin gint....so it's just a good time for Circus to get crowds .... but Cali tends to do really well iwth trance acts near the end of Ibiza season and during the fall/early winter.....let's see if it can continue the crowds then. I hope it does. Seriously. I love Cirucs on its good nights....

***NOTE: Again, this post is of my own accord...and again, Circus has the most potential of any club in LA with the right makeover. BY FAR. But patchwork isn't going to cut it.***


Posted by yojirave04 on Jun-02-2009 04:39:

Let's move on!!!
So what DJ's would You LUV to SEE & HEAR play @ CIRCUS?


Posted by in2muzikk on Jun-02-2009 04:46:

quote:
Originally posted by in2muzikk
Add Jochen Miller, he had the crowd in a frenzy at Trance Energy...hands in the air, party your ass off Trance and Prog!




Also add First State, Dutch duo Ralphie B and Sander van Dien. Several of my friends at Trance Energy said it was THE MOST AWESOME set of the whole night. I missed it, but would love to hear them for the first time!


Posted by TSG on Jun-02-2009 04:52:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
not since spundae was there...


THANK YOU, that's what I thought.


I just love it when ppl talk so much shit, yet they haven't been there in like yrs!


Posted by R!CH on Jun-02-2009 04:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Jim Carson
I like the new set-up just for variety's sake, but the old booth certainly was the shit.


from the audience's point of view yes, it was great to have a dj that close. as i have stated. but for a dj who just flew in from brazil or romania going from seeing beautiful women who look alive and sentient to disgusting washers sweating with their eyes rolled back swaying around like undead creatures of the night, doesn't really inspire sets that stand apart from the rest of their touring schedule. if you're there for the music, it's better that the dj isn't forced to look at that ugliness as if it's sitting across the dinner table from him. only then, from afar, can he or she possibly appreciate the energy of the crowd. it's the same for circus, avalon and vanguard.


Posted by R!CH on Jun-02-2009 05:04:

quote:
Originally posted by TSG
I just love it when ppl talk so much shit, yet they haven't been there in like yrs!


i don't see the two as being mutually exclusive.

i pose a criticism and you label it as talking shit. i get your sense of emotional sensitivity to the issue, because there's some truth to what i say. i also understand you're working hard to elevate the status of the club. that's what this thread is about right? but as nothing more than a promoter at a venue, your ability to affect the change needed is limited, and you should recognize that, and in recognizing that you should not take opinions as personal attacks. for your own sake really. as i have stated before, the reason i don't visit circus anymore is because i have no reason to. a reason to would be a lineup that is unique, engaging, cutting edge. as others have stated, your headliners are mostly trance. not only that but the same sound of trance. the last time you had a lineup that drew me through your doors was markus and j00f. since then not only have i not seen anything of that caliber, but i'm just not all that enthusiastic about big room clubbing any more. whatever you think about that, i'm sure it'll make for some great patio conversation this saturday. whatever, as long as some of this reality sinks in. i'm not here to blow sunshine up your ass.


Posted by TSG on Jun-02-2009 05:10:

Behold, my arse.

I was really hoping for some sunshine up my ass.

hahahaha... dude, you sound very bitter. If you're not interested in Circus, then please move along. I just hope I don't lose any sleep over your thoughts & comments. You ramble too much.

Anyway... back to the subject!


Posted by R!CH on Jun-02-2009 05:12:

quote:
Originally posted by TSG
I was really hoping for some sunshine up my ass.


CIRCUS IS PERFECT! BEST CLUB IN THE WORLD! BEST CROWD, BEST MUSIC, BEST SOUND! NOTHING SHOULD EVER CHANGE!


Posted by R!CH on Jun-02-2009 05:13:

quote:
Originally posted by TSG
I was really hoping for some sunshine up my ass.

hahahaha... dude, you sound very bitter. If you're not interested in Circus, then please move along.


and what is it would i be bitter about?


Posted by yojirave04 on Jun-02-2009 05:14:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
CIRCUS IS PERFECT! BEST CLUB IN THE WORLD! BEST CROWD, BEST MUSIC, BEST SOUND! NOTHING SHOULD EVER CHANGE!


+1


Posted by DaveT on Jun-02-2009 05:14:

He's not bitter. Fact is, what's been done is patchwrok and not change for the better. And you don't have to be there in persno tosee that (note: I have been there in person and see it's patchwork done.).

While some peeps see the patchwork as grand changes done with place, wstep back and it's the sajme places with bandages put on. I hope it's becomes more than that in the future, though. Look at the dump Vanguard was before its makeover.


Posted by Jim Carson on Jun-02-2009 05:19:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
from the audience's point of view yes, it was great to have a dj that close. as i have stated. but for a dj who just flew in from brazil or romania going from seeing beautiful women who look alive and sentient to disgusting washers sweating with their eyes rolled back swaying around like undead creatures of the night, doesn't really inspire sets that stand apart from the rest of their touring schedule. if you're there for the music, it's better that the dj isn't forced to look at that ugliness as if it's sitting across the dinner table from him. only then, from afar, can he or she possibly appreciate the energy of the crowd. it's the same for circus, avalon and vanguard.


I see what you are saying about washers. Washers are washers, what can you do? But on the real, real, real... I have been impressed with the amount of beautiful women at Circus this year. I don't think I am alone on this. Most of the washers are in the back of the room. There have been some gorgeous women frequenting Circus every Saturday. I've seen a lot more hotties at Circus this year than I have seen at the other big clubs in LA. The only club with hotter chicks is Wokcano on Sundays in Santa Monica.

It's not really fair to compare Circus to Romania when in Romania they have clubs where the women are topless on the Black Sea. C'mon dude. Where in LA is there a club with topless hot 18 year old women dancing on the beach? Tell me and then take me there immediately... I would love to play there.


Posted by TSG on Jun-02-2009 05:20:

Well this thread isn't about changes or patchwork or whatever... It's just a thread asking about DJ's that you and whoever else THAT DOES go to CIRCUS would like to see play there. That's all.


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