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Posted by zoogla on Mar-08-2009 04:14:

saw it tonight, it was decent. superhero rape scene was awesome.


Posted by TigerClaw on Mar-08-2009 05:16:

Watchmen opening title sequence leaked.


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-08-2009 05:19:

Leaked? The movie's been out for 4 days mate


Posted by Sunsnail on Mar-08-2009 05:20:

Yeah, I already got the blu-ray


Posted by Ted Promo on Mar-08-2009 05:22:

I honestly have no interest in seeing it


Posted by Renzo on Mar-08-2009 05:26:

Bob Dylan


Posted by Clovis on Mar-08-2009 05:39:

quote:
Originally posted by NeoPhono
It is if you look a little deeper than the comic book exterior...just like the original graphic novel. It's missing some of the nuances you get by reading the original, but the points I can name off the top of my head include;

idealism and its corruption, both in society and the individual
the transience of ideas and culture
moral relativism
the meaning and need for hero
the acceptance and response to human nature

There are plenty more, and I'm sure each person finds their own. So, yes, I would say that the content of the movie could be considered "deep." It's not going to be spoon-fed to you, especially if you're just there for boobs and bombs, but it's most definitely there.


You know, I haven't seen the movie, but I'm pretty sure from the reviews and trusted opinions I've read that it leans far more into the spoon fed direction.


Posted by NeoPhono on Mar-08-2009 05:52:

quote:
Originally posted by WittyHandle
Right, because Dark Knight (which was incredible) was a popcorn flick about lasers and not in any way about the deconstruction of what it takes to be a hero and the depths of human nature.
Again, I'm not trying to knock the Watchmen as a whole. I just think it probably works great if you've read the book, but for someone who just wants to go out and see a good movie, it leaves a lot to be desired.
And WAY too much blue schlong


And Alan Moore had a lot to do with the Dark Knight. He, along with Frank Miller, redefined Batman as the anti-hero, with hints of that in the newest movies. In my opinion, Watchmen takes that idea and adds several layers of other commentary.

I would argue that quite a few people saw the Dark Knight simply for the action, just as I'm sure many people did for the Watchman and were disappointed. People get what they want out of movies and novels alike, I'm not going to knock that. If people didn't like the Watchmen fine, I'm just thinking quite a few of these people didn't like it because it sailed about five miles over their head. There's a reason Watchmen is used in some college literature courses. It's something to be analyzed and pondered, not casually observed.

I'm not trying to pick on you, but your comment about the "blue schlong" is a case-in-point. The ability to look past what you might find revolting in order to see why someone like Dr. Manhattan wouldn't wear clothes and what that implies is yet another commentary in the film/novel. You may have "got it" and are just making a joke about it, but with Alan Moore, having an all-powerful being decide to not wear clothes does have a meaning.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Mar-08-2009 06:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
You know, I haven't seen the movie, but I'm pretty sure from the reviews and trusted opinions I've read that it leans far more into the spoon fed direction.


Your poseur elitist bullshit is really growing tiresome, man.


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-08-2009 07:04:

wow this movie was terrible. i just saw it tonight for my brothers birthday and i can't believe we sat through the whole thing.

the entire movie you have no idea what the hell is going on because the storyline is terrible. you final start to get it together at the end, but by then you're just lauging about the bad acting by ginger ben stiller and random lion/tiger/bull creatures that somehow found there way into the film.

seriously, go see anything else.


edit - reading some of the thread now...can't believe some people liked it


Posted by daft_max on Mar-08-2009 09:30:

you know how you asked for something spicy and they gave u some tomato sauce shit...and then u asked for the spicy sauce again and then you wait and you wait and they they come again and said "this is the hottest sauce we got" and then you went like "..."

This movie is a similar experience.

It wasnt deep, it was just slow.


Posted by Sushipunk on Mar-08-2009 09:33:

quote:
Originally posted by daft_max
you know how you asked for something spicy and they gave u some tomato sauce shit...and then u asked for the spicy sauce again and then you wait and you wait and they they come again and said "this is the hottest sauce we got" and then you went like "..."

This movie is a similar experience.

It wasnt deep, it was just slow.


Excellent review. Well done. Lol.


Posted by Dj Minaya on Mar-08-2009 10:05:

It's hard to judge anyones review if they haven't read the graphic novel.

For us who have it's seriously complete fan service.

Considering the 8 different scripts this movie has gone through over the years we as fans really got the best possible adaptation. Mainly because it actually looked just like the graphic novel and aside from Malin Akerman (Who couldn't even cry in the one scene it really counted) I was happy to see a group of actors I respect and not big hollywood stars play these roles.

http://io9.com/5165227/the-version-...e-studio-wanted

Reading everything in the above I'm glad with what we got. I look forward to the DVD with the extra footage and Black Freighter cut into the film. I still consider the theatre version Watchmen lite to some extent.


Posted by Aortik on Mar-08-2009 14:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
You know, I haven't seen the movie, but I'm pretty sure from the reviews and trusted opinions I've read that it leans far more into the spoon fed direction.


Did you ever read the book?


Posted by Silky Johnson on Mar-08-2009 15:28:

Clovis doesn't need to read the book; The New Yorker already deemed it was terrible.




Posted by bas on Mar-08-2009 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
I watched the movie last night. I really liked it but maintain the storyline is easy to follow and if someone can't it has nothing to do with the quality of the script or direction.. they're just a dumbass.

While it does have subtext and it's not as infantile as most of the films coming out of Hollywood it still isn't Tolstoy or Shakespeare or Joyce.. it does have a relatively simple plot to follow.

Exactly. Anyone that can't follow the storyline must have the attention span of an 8 year old. There is NOTHING difficult to follow. And how the fuck can you complain about a movie being "too long" when you probably payed $12 to see it. I paid $14 to see it at the Arclight's Cineramadome (bigger than a normal theater, not as big as an IMAX) and I'm excstatic that it was long. I got my fucking money's worth. This movie was so badass it's not even fair. I've never seen a comic to movie adaptation stay so true to the source. VERY well done.

lol @ "difficult to follow"

I can just imagine some people sitting there, "WHEN IS SHIT GONNA BLOW UP, AND WHERE'S THE BAD GUYS "


Posted by Silky Johnson on Mar-08-2009 15:42:

Wait wait....the "super heroes" ARE the "bad guys"? WHAT IS THIS? BIZARRO WORLD??


*rips hair out and shits pants*


Posted by Frenchie on Mar-08-2009 15:48:

Hope you use your hair to wipe. Need to recycle, man.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Mar-08-2009 15:50:

Actually, I wipe my ass with The New Yorker. Lololololol.


Posted by Frenchie on Mar-08-2009 15:51:

That's one elite ass. //


Posted by Silky Johnson on Mar-08-2009 15:54:

That's the only way I can trust for sure that I've taken a good shit.

;//


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-08-2009 16:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Leaked? The movie's been out for 4 days mate
Its tigerpaw, give him a break.


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-08-2009 16:03:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Wait wait....the "super heroes" ARE the "bad guys"? WHAT IS THIS? BIZARRO WORLD??


*rips hair out and shits pants*
What is this shit?



Copy right infringement


Posted by Silky Johnson on Mar-08-2009 16:06:

Oh noooes!


Posted by bas on Mar-08-2009 16:10:

Can anyone that didn't understand the storyline explain what they had trouble following?


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