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Originally posted by Yohan great. thanks for agreeing that I shouldn't be living in Canada. i guess we should stop giving donations to charities for africa or tsunami victims or whatever eh. because it's really none of our business

So we're being "charitable" by going into Afghanistan with our freedom flags and tanks?

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH So we're being "charitable" by going into Afghanistan with our freedom flags and tanks?

yeah. because those Taliban types got guns and shit, and they don't seem to want to listen to reason

you can't create a condition for a country to rebuild without being able to have a secure environment

i think we should drive this vid to atleast 10 million views on youtube, so they can learn a lesson

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Originally posted by Yohan yeah. because those Taliban types got guns and shit, and they don't seem to want to listen to reason you can't create a condition for a country to rebuild without being able to have a secure environment

That country has been in war more or less for the last 100 years. You really think NATO or even the U.S can win this war?The British couldnt do it, the Russians couldnt do it. Shouldnt we learn from our past? I dont even know the cause of our forces being there anymore.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer That country has been in war more or less for the last 100 years.

More like last 30 yrs

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You really think NATO or even the U.S can win this war?The British couldnt do it, the Russians couldnt do it. Shouldnt we learn from our past? I dont even know the cause of our forces being there anymore.

Except this time, Canadians (and the Yanks and the other nations in this) are in Afghanistan by the invitation of Afghan govt with strong UN resolutions (for what it's worth)

Sure, there is a strong, but minority that oppose what's going on in Afghanistan, but NATO is not in Afghanistan to conquer the nation, but to help out the people which is a key difference.

The victory for NATO here is when the Afghan govt can provide and protect its own people. We're merely there to help them do this. No 'military' solution will win the war in Afghanistan

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer That country has been in war more or less for the last 100 years. You really think NATO or even the U.S can win this war?The British couldnt do it, the Russians couldnt do it. Shouldnt we learn from our past? I dont even know the cause of our forces being there anymore.

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Originally posted by Shaya007

mmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Originally posted by El K Dee mmmmmmmmmmmmm

what the hell is that thing anyways?

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Originally posted by Yohan More like last 30 yrs

At least 30 years.

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Except this time, Canadians (and the Yanks and the other nations in this) are in Afghanistan by the invitation of Afghan govt with strong UN resolutions (for what it's worth)

You mean the invitation by the corrupt Afghan government with no power and filled with ex war lords?Hamid Karzi is a huge joke. Iam surprised he is still alive.

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Sure, there is a strong, but minority that oppose what's going on in Afghanistan, but NATO is not in Afghanistan to conquer the nation, but to help out the people which is a key difference.

Thats how we look at it but you really think the warlords or the Taliban see it this way too?

Funny thing is I recently heard that Obama wants to start talking to the Taliban. Keep in mind that these are the same people that have been killing our troops and now we are going to sit and talk to them?
This mission is huge failure.

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The victory for NATO here is when the Afghan govt can provide and protect its own people. We're merely there to help them do this. No 'military' solution will win the war in Afghanistan

Thats the problem that Afghan gov cannot provide or ptotect anything.
so what happens then? how long do we have to wait untill that government can provide and protect the country?

I do agree however that the military solution will not win this battle.

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Originally posted by Shaya007

melted cheese inside?!

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer You mean the invitation by the corrupt Afghan government with no power and filled with ex war lords?Hamid Karzi is a huge joke. Iam surprised he is still alive.

And what tinpot 3rd world country doesn't have corruption?
Nobody said Afghanistan is going to be easy, or it's going to be a short mission.

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Thats how we look at it but you really think the warlords or the Taliban see it this way too?

Of course the Taliban doesn't want zionist crusaders in Afghanistan.
And most of the warlords probably too. Though this is more case of politics than dislike of foreigners.

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Funny thing is I recently heard that Obama wants to start talking to the Taliban. Keep in mind that these are the same people that have been killing our troops and now we are going to sit and talk to them? This mission is huge failure.

I don't agree with talking with Taliban, but if Taliban is genuinely interested in a peaceful resolution and will stick by any agreements, wouldn't you want to take a chance that'll stop the bloodshed?

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Thats the problem that Afghan gov cannot provide or ptotect anything. so what happens then? how long do we have to wait untill that government can provide and protect the country?

Hence why a lot of effort is geared towards training the Afghan military and police, and training Afghans to man their own infrastructure like schools and stuff.

I don't know how long Afghanistan mission will have to go on, but I don't see a short term solution.

opium guys...geeeez...I want a poppy seed bagel now...I think...

hey it's that dude from super high me!! (or a look alike)

yeaaaa, i saw a report about this last night on the news channel lolol

We harshly critisize americans, their military and their government DAILY. Its a national past time. So please tell me why we Canadians are so whiney on the odd occasion when it happens to us?

Seriously... this country needs to grow up

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Originally posted by Yohan yeah. because those Taliban types got guns and shit, and they don't seem to want to listen to reason you can't create a condition for a country to rebuild without being able to have a secure environment

Read my first post. Canada shouldn't play world hero. The military is for defensive purposes, not going in nations and forcing our ideologies onto them, and then patting ourselves on the back for doing something nice.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH The military is for defensive purposes, not going in nations and forcing our ideologies onto them, and then patting ourselves on the back for doing something nice.

Of course; ideologies should only be forced onto people by endless repetition of disgruntled and baseless one-line rants, preferably on the internet.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Read my first post. Canada shouldn't play world hero. The military is for defensive purposes, not going in nations and forcing our ideologies onto them, and then patting ourselves on the back for doing something nice.

I dont want to make this personal Peter, but attitude like yours allow Nazis to rule the world.

Let's sit on our ass while the world goes to hell isn't going to make the world better.

Do tell me dude, do you believe that some causes are worth dying for? And that we, as humans, owe something to each other?

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Originally posted by Jayx1 We harshly critisize americans, their military and their government DAILY. Its a national past time. So please tell me why we Canadians are so whiney on the odd occasion when it happens to us? Seriously... this country needs to grow up

we got a handful of emails at work from whiners demanding we take fox off of our channel lineup... hilarious

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Originally posted by DaRoZa we got a handful of emails at work from whiners demanding we take fox off of our channel lineup... hilarious

While you are at it disconnect the anti american CBC

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Originally posted by Jayx1 We harshly critisize americans, their military and their government DAILY. Its a national past time. So please tell me why we Canadians are so whiney on the odd occasion when it happens to us? Seriously... this country needs to grow up

Critcizing is one thing, but with Fox you have a whole network that shamelessly promotes America's imperialism, to the point of suggesting that America should annex Canada (Ann Coulter?)!!

lol

i think it's funny how there are so many canadians that are more pro american than they are pro canadian.......we bash ourselves so much more than americans would ever bash themselves...nationalism is a big part of their culture whereas self bashing is a big part of ours.....

i don't consider myself to be a sensitive person but i sure as hell am not going to apologize for speaking out and getting hot under the collar when our country and soldiers are insulted....

i really like how there was the attampt to clear with the pubic apology after the fact. makes me sick. and it was the same day that 4 of our boys were killed. ugh.

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Originally posted by kotsy

ive never seen TG so mad...wow.
thank you TG for supporting us.
wow.

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