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Just got wind that deadmau is headlining...Nothing against deadmau but hes just not in armin's league..I wanna see JOC but thats about it..Cant seem to see myself spending all that money to see one dj for a hour...Maybe next year...Got a feeling this year isnt gonna compare to last year..

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Originally posted by Tosh Either way it's going to kick ass. I'm just being a negative lil b*tch cuz I didn't get y way... Hahaha but really I don't get why almost every event this year, skills has had a more house style lineup. Especially Carnival.... Then Fright was canceled all together. Oh well....

Uhh, the Carnival party at Kelly's Mission Rock a little while back was not a Skills event. Last year Spundae & Skills did one called Carnival last year, but not this year.

And you're telling me outside of Deadmau5, etd.POP was House-oriented?


And EVERY event has swings in style. Yes, even events in LA. Monster Massive, TAO, etc have all had progessive house-oriented lineups in the main room in the past. I remember one year when Roger Sanchez and Benny Benassi headlined MM! Hell, MM this year is mainly progessive outside of AvB and JOC.

It just changes from year to year. There is nothign in the LovEvolution afterparty name that says all trance, all the time.

Totally disappointed with the line-up. It's a total joke. After last year?? This... Really? Really?

Deadmau5??? Groove Armada???

not a Happy Trancer...

The last EDC was absolutley amazing...

It is offically my 2nd favorite Trance event, behind Trance Energy in Holland!.

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Originally posted by henryv this reminds of of the EDC thread when not everybody liked our lineup. the tables have turned?

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Originally posted by vigvigler Totally disappointed with the line-up. It's a total joke. After last year?? This... Really? Really? Deadmau5??? Groove Armada??? not a Happy Trancer...

Let's see you have Menno, Andy Moor (between them to can play a lot of the same thigns armin does), JOC, and Jon O'bir.

And people are actually complaining about the trance lineup.

Amazing!

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Originally posted by DaveT Let's see you have Menno, Andy Moor (between them to can play a lot of the same thigns armin does), JOC, and Jon O'bir. And people are actually complaining about the trance lineup. Amazing!

im not so much complaining about the TRANCE lineup......mickey mau5 should never be a headliner IMO

The Trance Line up is SOLID if you have all the Trance DJ's playing in the main room.. HOwever I'm afraid that they will be placed on a side room, yet the boring deadmau5 will be playing the main room..

I hope they still add ARMIN VAN BUUREN!

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Originally posted by Trancelover24 The Trance Line up is SOLID if you have all the Trance DJ's playing in the main room.. HOwever I'm afraid that they will be placed on a side room, yet the boring deadmau5 will be playing the main room.. I hope they still add ARMIN VAN BUUREN!

not going to happen!
It will still be kick ass, I'm just sad that it will most likely be in the side room

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Originally posted by DaveT Let's see you have Menno, Andy Moor (between them to can play a lot of the same thigns armin does), JOC, and Jon O'bir. And people are actually complaining about the trance lineup. Amazing!

I think the main problem for me is that I won't be able to watch these guys perform in the main room together with the "Main Room" production value.

Yes we've been spoiled with the big headliners, but the main djs who will perform with the massive main room setup will be Deadmau5 & Groove Armada...

If Skills decides to do a Mix & Match where they put House & Trance in the main room (Andy opens for Deadmau5 & have Eddie/Menno/JOC close the main room), I'd somewhat understand.

But if Groove Armada will close the main stage (not knockin' GA, since I heard they're good, and will check out their set)... it'll just irritate me knowing that whoever closes the Trance side room well be throwing down bombs without the incredible main room setup...

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Originally posted by DaveT Let's see you have Menno, Andy Moor (between them to can play a lot of the same thigns armin does), JOC, and Jon O'bir. And people are actually complaining about the trance lineup. Amazing!

Unfortuantly its not what they play...Its how they put the music together..Menno is ok..Andy is a producer...JOC is good and Obir is good..Deadmaus and Grove Armada are side rooms at best...Ive heard a lot of dj's play and nobody does it like Armin..Even Marcus would have been a better choice to headline...

I've been told that the trance artists are getting put in a side room & that deadmau5 is main-rooming it up.

Yeeeeeeeeeah...

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Originally posted by V Man27 I think the main problem for me is that I won't be able to watch these guys perform in the main room together with the "Main Room" production value. it'll just irritate me knowing that whoever closes the Trance side room well be throwing down bombs without the incredible main room setup...

Well put V Man.....
I am upset that even if i do walk in to see Deadmau5 play, i know what i will hear because his set is the same from one event to the next. Its preplanned, no crowd reading done. I dont want to make people mad but i personally feel that he has all his mashups done ahead by someone else and he just put on cds in the order they are numbered in his binder. (doubt its true but it seems that way)

Seems to me that this event is somewhat a carbon copy of EDC 2009. House in the main room with a little token Trance that most people aren't crazy about. I guess what should we expect with the same promoter?

IMO it's a weaksauce lineup pushed way too heavily into the main room (I know, set times are not up yet, but I was at EDC 2009 so surprise me with more Trance in the main room then...) There are some notable ecxeptions such as Menno...and I'm not just talking Trance, I love some Progressive House but the House DJ's here don't appeal to me much, Eddie excepted.

I know Househeads will disagree, but the majority of comments about the lineup here are unfavorable. I just hope SF LovEvolution doesn't go the way of the former Berlin Love Parade...

I think the lineup is top notch. However im not sure if trance in the side room will be good or bad. Where is Eddie gonna play?

the majority of the comments here are negative because we're dealing with trance fans. most trance fans can be characterized as having one-dimensional tastes (the inability to enjoy other forms of edm besides their island of trance) and dj worship syndrome (a condition where fans become consumed with who's playing rather than what's playing). the second condition is understandable considering many trance djs play quite predictable music. but what makes that even more confusing is why you guys get so excited to hear the same tunes you've heard on asot for months. i dunno i get excited about hearing new music with new sounds.

but what's sad is if you took armin's exact tl and gave it to menno to play, some of you wouldn't have nearly as much fun because you didn't get to stare at armin for 3 hours. others will have their night ruined when the production isn't the most grandiose. one has to wonder, why is it you can't enjoy the music for what it is without the biggest and tallest lighting rig possible?

jamesalin, you act like you're the only person here whose "heard a lot of djs". lol. well the way you have your mind made up about all of them sounds like you haven't heard nearly enough. i've heard a lot of djs too, and many of them a lot of different times. some of the best ones i've heard can drag their feet through one set and knock it out of the park the next. much of it has to do with your own expectations being built up too high.

if you're gonna spend the next few weeks psyching yourself into thinking this party is going to suck just cause your wet dream team isn't playing, again, then it will suck. but ask yourself this... how much more epic can it get from year to year? at what point are you satisfied? however if you go with a blank slate and an open mind, you just might have a good time like many others there will. none of you have any idea how these djs are going to play in the context of lovevolution. anyone that knows anything about anything can tell you that the context affects how the dj plays greatly.

finally, you all need to cut the promoter some slack. please believe from the outset they didn't plan on making deadmau5 the headliner, but that a number of circumstances including dj availability, changing political climate and other logistical problems constrained their options and their timetables from which to work with. the stars don't align for armin/ferry/markus/tiesto/a&b every year. but as supposed fans of trance music, that shouldn't even matter.

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Originally posted by R!CH the stars don't align for armin/ferry/markus/tiesto/a&b every year.

maybe I am jaded, but really really thought the masses wouldn't want armin/ferry/markus/tiesto/a&b AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN

Skills has booked those same dj's over and over. Maybe its just comfort food as there are trance dj's that are far better than Armin or Tiesto out there.

Personally I am so stoked by the trance lineup! I wanted it to be the way it is, plus one more dj, and haventhentrance in the main room, butnits not! So yeah!!! Let's party! I'm overnit now... It's going to be amazing!

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Originally posted by R!CH the majority of the comments here are negative because we're dealing with trance fans. most trance fans can be characterized as having one-dimensional tastes (the inability to enjoy other forms of edm besides their island of trance) and dj worship syndrome (a condition where fans become consumed with who's playing rather than what's playing). the second condition is understandable considering many trance djs play quite predictable music. but what makes that even more confusing is why you guys get so excited to hear the same tunes you've heard on asot for months. i dunno i get excited about hearing new music with new sounds. but what's sad is if you took armin's exact tl and gave it to menno to play, some of you wouldn't have nearly as much fun because you didn't get to stare at armin for 3 hours. others will have their night ruined when the production isn't the most grandiose. one has to wonder, why is it you can't enjoy the music for what it is without the biggest and tallest lighting rig possible? jamesalin, you act like you're the only person here whose "heard a lot of djs". lol. well the way you have your mind made up about all of them sounds like you haven't heard nearly enough. i've heard a lot of djs too, and many of them a lot of different times. some of the best ones i've heard can drag their feet through one set and knock it out of the park the next. much of it has to do with your own expectations being built up too high. if you're gonna spend the next few weeks psyching yourself into thinking this party is going to suck just cause your wet dream team isn't playing, again, then it will suck. but ask yourself this... how much more epic can it get from year to year? at what point are you satisfied? however if you go with a blank slate and an open mind, you just might have a good time like many others there will. none of you have any idea how these djs are going to play in the context of lovevolution. anyone that knows anything about anything can tell you that the context affects how the dj plays greatly. finally, you all need to cut the promoter some slack. please believe from the outset they didn't plan on making deadmau5 the headliner, but that a number of circumstances including dj availability, changing political climate and other logistical problems constrained their options and their timetables from which to work with. the stars don't align for armin/ferry/markus/tiesto/a&b every year. but as supposed fans of trance music, that shouldn't even matter.

i can agree with u on these points...totally....

the flier doesnt look balanced

you have D5 and GA at the top then below eddie and two other acts...

perhaps the promoters have one more big name left to announce who would be listed above GA and D5...
(give it a pyramid like look)

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Originally posted by bigperf the flier doesnt look balanced you have D5 and GA at the top then below eddie and two other acts... perhaps the promoters have one more big name left to announce who would be listed above GA and D5... (give it a pyramid like look)

yes and it's a heavy name.

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Originally posted by R!CH others will have their night ruined when the production isn't the most grandiose. one has to wonder, why is it you can't enjoy the music for what it is without the biggest and tallest lighting rig possible?

Because I'm paying $60+ to see the DJs I like play 1 - 1.5 hours... If the prices were more reasonable, I wouldn't need to bitch... But for the "pricing of the talent" not being along the lines of AVB & Tiesto cost... I should expect the best production...

Hell, even Dyloot said it in the BayRaves boards (I wanted to see how much heat the lineup was getting from actual ravers)...
"The line-up is very diverse but to me it's all about the show!
You all saw how amazing POP looked.... just wait. THE LOVE IS ALMOST HERE.... "
http://www.brproductions.net/forums...ic=19455&st=240

so to sum it up... whats left to justify the cost to the consumer if the line up isn't full of extremely expensive talent? i would think the production value...

Either way I'm going to the After Party, but at least we can let off some steam and just enjoy it for what it is when it comes around in less than 2 months... hell, I paid that much, I should be able to... lol

again, well put V Man! LETS PARTAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

on a different note:

Dont quote me me i was told Benny is at ruby for those of you that were asking. I dont trust the person who said this to be all that right but we will see....

^
maybe, Benny will be in the states Sept-October and he has been at Love weekend most years and did ruby october 07

so its possible.

one thing that hasnt been brought up is that with Nocturnal(henry, spill the beans...) the weekend before in socal, that some of those artists could have been booked for SF the following weekend. (dan+glaude did, but those guys are mid level guys)

1 more big trance act(ferry) and a top house act like Luke or Dragan and perhaps there would be more satisfaction with the lineup...

but as henry stated "there is a heavy name" left( Legout?)

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Originally posted by henryv yes and it's a heavy name.

heavy name? when will it be announced?

One dimensional because people know what they like and have come to expect a certain type of talent from Skills/Spundae? I go clubbing to hear new tracks all the time and walk out early because the DJs (or PA) is terrible. Anyone can get on stage and play tunes, but few have proper track selection, volume, and EQing to make it right.

Which is my segway to your comment about AvB and Menno...I can guarantee you if you gave me a pair of headphones and let me listen to the exact some track selection from AvB and Menno that I can tell you which set is from whom. For some reason, I bet you can also so I don't know where your comment came from.

Personally, I can't stand this lineup; hey I am allowed to have my opinion right.

In the end, this party is going to be great and everyone is going to rave about it. I'm just disappointed that I took the 'risk' and jumped on the tickets prior to the line up only to be let down. If anyone disagrees, it is LovEvolution weekend; go to another afterparty!!! Go see what Ruby Skye, 1015, Mighty, Temple, and the rest of the city has to offer.

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Originally posted by R!CH the majority of the comments here are negative because we're dealing with trance fans. most trance fans can be characterized as having one-dimensional tastes (the inability to enjoy other forms of edm besides their island of trance) and dj worship syndrome (a condition where fans become consumed with who's playing rather than what's playing). the second condition is understandable considering many trance djs play quite predictable music. but what makes that even more confusing is why you guys get so excited to hear the same tunes you've heard on asot for months. i dunno i get excited about hearing new music with new sounds. but what's sad is if you took armin's exact tl and gave it to menno to play, some of you wouldn't have nearly as much fun because you didn't get to stare at armin for 3 hours. others will have their night ruined when the production isn't the most grandiose. one has to wonder, why is it you can't enjoy the music for what it is without the biggest and tallest lighting rig possible? jamesalin, you act like you're the only person here whose "heard a lot of djs". lol. well the way you have your mind made up about all of them sounds like you haven't heard nearly enough. i've heard a lot of djs too, and many of them a lot of different times. some of the best ones i've heard can drag their feet through one set and knock it out of the park the next. much of it has to do with your own expectations being built up too high. if you're gonna spend the next few weeks psyching yourself into thinking this party is going to suck just cause your wet dream team isn't playing, again, then it will suck. but ask yourself this... how much more epic can it get from year to year? at what point are you satisfied? however if you go with a blank slate and an open mind, you just might have a good time like many others there will. none of you have any idea how these djs are going to play in the context of lovevolution. anyone that knows anything about anything can tell you that the context affects how the dj plays greatly. finally, you all need to cut the promoter some slack. please believe from the outset they didn't plan on making deadmau5 the headliner, but that a number of circumstances including dj availability, changing political climate and other logistical problems constrained their options and their timetables from which to work with. the stars don't align for armin/ferry/markus/tiesto/a&b every year. but as supposed fans of trance music, that shouldn't even matter.

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