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Originally posted by owien so yes i may be coming across rude now because i'm trying to point out making your own shit from top to bottom will lead to new ideas and fresh sounds and give people something to stop and think about. bt,m.i.k.e,lolo,jhon oo fleming,airbase are keeping it all alive with thier work...fact

Have you not seen the tutorials yet? He's using VEC kicks and old school loops to make his track "back."

Airbase Back Tutorial

I get the feeling he's in his own world at the moment. I don't think he'll take in evidence contrary to his beliefs.

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Originally posted by owien none because the producers i look up to have built up their own sound banks spaning over years and years.and made thier own sound and presets.

There's no way to even know or prove this so claiming this shows how big of a moron you are. It's all based off what someone says!

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Originally posted by owien eh? never uses the same shit? what planet you on? and the only trends he sets is via intresting hooks riffs ect and not the sounds he uses to make them. or the producers he pays to make them. and please wake up tiesto is a perfect example why the dance seane is so stagnet and totaly undermine what you stand for.

The first part is dead wrong and the second part is right (but way off topic)

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Originally posted by owien so tell me this how do you hope to make it your own?IF YOU USE OTHER PEOPLES WORK TO MAKE IT THEN ITS NOT YOUR WORK. and wtf do you meen creating your own samples is only a smal part of prouducthion that's total bullshit it goes much deaper then one shots or pads it's the hole basis of making a edm track ffs. and i dont belive for one min that everybody here thinks swipping other peoples work is ok

It's a fucking sample dude! It's not a track. Most of us here only use samples for our drums or an odd sound that fits perfect with an idea. Music is about developing your ideas and it doesn't matter what is used if it's abletons built in synth, omnisphere, a virus, or a sample. As long as it fits in your song it doesn't matter. The fact you think otherwise is disturbing.

I'm guessing you'll never make a remix then right? Or else you're going against your own theories.

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 There's no way to even know or prove this so claiming this shows how big of a moron you are. It's all based off what someone says!

please do me a favor and get a grip you think for one second after years and years of edm production they wont have learnd to make all the sounds they need in their work.

how else did they stand out what's their signia tune to let people know and love their tracks?

well let me tell you its not by using the most popular presets or sample packs...twat

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 It's a fucking sample dude! It's not a track. Most of us here only use samples for our drums or an odd sound that fits perfect with an idea. Music is about developing your ideas and it doesn't matter what is used if it's abletons built in synth, omnisphere, a virus, or a sample. As long as it fits in your song it doesn't matter. The fact you think otherwise is disturbing. I'm guessing you'll never make a remix then right? Or else you're going against your own theories.

whats more strange is that you dont see how spending time creating every thing you need is a way to seperate your work from the pack. you clearly dont want to or just have not learnt how

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 The first part is dead wrong and the second part is right (but way off topic)

nope you stand for nothing 'i hate tiesto but i also see nothing wrong with using other peopls work its only a kick or a loop yes witch you never spent the time to create you're a cop out.

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Originally posted by derail I get the feeling he's in his own world at the moment. I don't think he'll take in evidence contrary to his beliefs.

no i stand by my beliefs and i also show pride in my work yes thats right MY WORK.

well, he just made my ignore list. He just called every single producer - BT, M.I.K.E., Airbase, Paul Van Dyk, Lolo, John '00' Fleming - and every other one - a "cop out".

I'm done listening to this ignorant clown.

haha thats fine with me you took one of my points and twisted it to suit your thinking

LOL OWIEN EPICLY FAILS IN THIS THREAD.



(however this doesn't mean I think he's a bad guy)

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Originally posted by Nightshift LOL OWIEN EPICLY FAILS IN THIS THREAD. (however this doesn't mean I think he's a bad guy)

thanks im not just shoked really oh well thats ta for you.

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Originally posted by derail BT, M.I.K.E., Airbase, Paul Van Dyk, Lolo, John '00' Fleming

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Originally posted by owien please do me a favor and get a grip you think for one second after years and years of edm production they wont have learnd to make all the sounds they need in their work.

Sure, they'll have "learnd" that if the years they've spent producing have all been spent learning that.

If they're like many of us, then they don't really have the time or patience for that crap, they get an idea in their head and use the most expedient means available to "prototype" the idea while it's still fresh, which usually means samples or presets. Maybe after the idea is fleshed out they'll tweak it a bit.

Classical composers usually composed everything with the piano. You think they would have ever finished a project if they started worrying about crap like orchestration right from the get-go?

The best way to work through any creative process is from the top down. Get the arrangement, the hooks, the basic idea down first; fill in the details and polish and fine-tune later.

I think this thread has bloated to 12 pages because of a "using samples is cheating" argument. I don't have time to read through 12 pages of garbage.

All I can say is that if it's cheating, why do the people who claim this still make music that sucks balls? And why do so many of the people here who use samples also make music that sucks balls?

This proves that it doesn't matter. Use samples/presets or not, it's up to you. Stop your bitching and make music you fucking fags.

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Originally posted by alanzo I think this thread has bloted to 12 pages because of a "using samples is cheating" argument. I don't have time to read through 12 pages of garbage. All I can say is that if it's cheating, why do the people who claim this still make music that sucks balls? And why do so many of the people here who use samples also make music that sucks balls? This proves that it doesn't matter. Use samples/presets or not, it's up to you. Stop your bitching and make music you fucking fags.

If I took tiesto's latest song [purchase], and pitchbend it down by -12 semitones, then put my name on. ... It would make ASOT. Specificly because it was unoriginal.

People make suck balls music because that is how you get signed.

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Originally posted by owien please do me a favor and get a grip you think for one second after years and years of edm production they wont have learnd to make all the sounds they need in their work. how else did they stand out what's their signia tune to let people know and love their tracks? well let me tell you its not by using the most popular presets or sample packs...twat

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! You looooooooose!

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Originally posted by owien whats more strange is that you dont see how spending time creating every thing you need is a way to seperate your work from the pack. you clearly dont want to or just have not learnt how

No I spend my time going over every detail thousands of times and making minute adjustments for weeks/months. Making sure my arrangement is fresh and interesting/intriguing; not nitpicking over whether the sound I used is 90% of what I'm looking for or 99.9%.

We have the ability to make infinite amount of songs why would you spend the most time in the track creation process on the least important aspect which in your methodology would take BY FAR the most time?!?!?!

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Originally posted by owien nope you stand for nothing 'i hate tiesto but i also see nothing wrong with using other peopls work its only a kick or a loop yes witch you never spent the time to create you're a cop out.

I actually reprocess any sample I do choose to put into a project of mine so therefore it IS my work; thanks for proving my point buddy

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Originally posted by owien no i stand by my beliefs and i also show pride in my work yes thats right MY WORK.

You don't have work because you've never completed a fucking project dumbfuck!

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Originally posted by sixofour.604 If I took tiesto's latest song [purchase], and pitchbend it down by -12 semitones, then put my name on. ... It would make ASOT. Specificly because it was unoriginal. People make suck balls music because that is how you get signed.

Leave it to Cron to come in and say something even more dumb than what the idiot is rambling in the thread about; roffl.

Please tell me you're on an acid trip right now?

Honestly owien put up or shut up. You are really becoming a pain in the ass. Either show us some of your productions or just stop talking. Back up that you are a better producer than i am with a song not pointless bitching.

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 Leave it to Cron to come in and say something even more dumb than what the idiot is rambling in the thread about; roffl. Please tell me you're on an acid trip right now?

alanzo asked why the people at tA make balls music. I told him. Balls music gets you signed, so people produce it.

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 No I spend my time going over every detail thousands of times and making minute adjustments for weeks/months. Making sure my arrangement is fresh and interesting/intriguing; not nitpicking over whether the sound I used is 90% of what I'm looking for or 99.9%. We have the ability to make infinite amount of songs why would you spend the most time in the track creation process on the least important aspect which in your methodology would take BY FAR the most time?!?!?!

well done you have just proved you make tracks opon tracks without ever putting your name to it. for every 50 tracks you churn out i would off made only a handfull but at least they will have some way of showing its my work my imprint witch will make more of a lasting impact.

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