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Posted by djhaziel on Sep-19-2009 05:27:

how ironic would be a pic of jay and tiesto lmfao


Posted by woscar's alt on Sep-19-2009 05:28:

quote:
Originally posted by lenazi
nice backpedal, you are like the reverse lance armstong.


lolwut? I never said they were good, just not the shitfest you say they are. There is a LOT of music I don't like that I still think has inspiration behind it.


Posted by lenazi on Sep-19-2009 05:33:

yeah, money and bitches and not having to work hard because someone else wrote the music.

@ haziel i have one from 1999 hahahaha.


Posted by djhaziel on Sep-19-2009 05:35:

quote:
Originally posted by lenazi
yeah, money and bitches and not having to work hard because someone else wrote the music.

@ haziel i have one from 1999 hahahaha.



show it Hitler


Posted by lenazi on Sep-19-2009 05:37:

i have to find it. i also have a pic of sasha slapping my ass from the delta heavy tour. This was back when phones could not even phone properly and pictures cost 25$ to see if they actually turned out.

maybe i'll scan it...maybe.


Posted by woscar's alt on Sep-19-2009 05:40:

Do you know something I don't? Because I just checked Discogs and all versions of the album have "Written-By - Caleb Followill , Jared Followill , Matthew Followill , Nathan Followill".

quote:
Originally posted by lenazi
i have to find it. i also have a pic of sasha slapping my ass from the delta heavy tour. This was back when phones could not even phone properly and pictures cost 25$ to see if they actually turned out.

maybe i'll scan it...maybe.


oh, please do


Posted by lenazi on Sep-19-2009 05:42:

i know that they suck and discogs is made by people like me and you.


Posted by djhaziel on Sep-19-2009 05:43:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar's alt



oh, please do




+ 1


Posted by woscar's alt on Sep-19-2009 05:51:

quote:
Originally posted by lenazi
i know that they suck and discogs is made by people like me and you.



I know, but people still take the info from the liner notes and credits of records and CDs. We've already established that you hate them, but saying they don't even write their own music just for the sake of it is a different thing.


Posted by lenazi on Sep-19-2009 05:55:

i should probably try to prove it, but IF they write their own music it proves my original point anyway.

they play shit, are shit live, and write shit.

either way i win.


Posted by woscar's alt on Sep-19-2009 06:01:



Fair enough.


Posted by djhaziel on Sep-19-2009 06:04:

quote:
Originally posted by lenazi
i should probably try to prove it, but IF they write their own music it proves my original point anyway.

they play shit, are shit live, and write shit.

either way i win.


you make more sense when you are drunk


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Sep-19-2009 14:38:

What I do think is kind of cool about them is that they weren't even allowed to listen to rock music until moving out from home - that's one of the reason that their first few albums were considered so unique and light on distinct influences.

I think your criticism here lies exactly where it does with Kings of Leon fans - that their latest album is a departure from their more original sound and obviously caters to making it more generic arena rock. I still don't think it's anywhere near as samey as you do, but I could see that point if it were the one you were making.

I think there's a general undercurrent on a site like this of disliking music on sight for being popular - after all, most people fell in love with EDM and viewed it as "underground" or different for at least a little while. It isn't that accessible, and many posters here pat themselves on the back for enjoying something that most people don't appreciate. None of this is a bad thing, but it does seem amusing that someone who distinguishes so readily between Luciano and Porter doesn't see a difference between Coldplay and Kings of Leon, two groups with vastly different influences even if their audiences overlap to a great degree.

Anyway, just my two cents. This thread is kind of like if someone on a rock and roll forum posted "I just saw Lee Burridge last night and every song sounded the same... how uninspiring!" If you don't like them, that's great, but that's really all this thread has managed to say.


Posted by Az on Sep-19-2009 15:26:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
red morning light.

yes

first two albums were fantastic, third was a bit shit, and I've not really heard the latest, although I've quite liked the singles. So there.


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Sep-19-2009 18:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
So there.

AZ HAS SPOKEN.

/THREAD


Posted by Az on Sep-19-2009 19:27:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
AZ HAS SPOKEN.

/THREAD


Posted by ziptnf on Sep-19-2009 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
What I do think is kind of cool about them is that they weren't even allowed to listen to rock music until moving out from home - that's one of the reason that their first few albums were considered so unique and light on distinct influences.

I agree, I read an article about them in Rolling Stone and they had quite an interesting upbringing, much different than most rock bands where it's just a dude and his 3 buddies banging out shit in their uncle's garage and then became famous. They grew up singing in the choir and shit

quote:
I think there's a general undercurrent on a site like this of disliking music on sight for being popular - after all, most people fell in love with EDM and viewed it as "underground" or different for at least a little while. It isn't that accessible, and many posters here pat themselves on the back for enjoying something that most people don't appreciate. None of this is a bad thing, but it does seem amusing that someone who distinguishes so readily between Luciano and Porter doesn't see a difference between Coldplay and Kings of Leon, two groups with vastly different influences even if their audiences overlap to a great degree.

See, I don't even think their new album is that bad, but it isn't quite as creative as their others. I actually think the band agrees with this, and thus doesn't find a concert to be that exciting anymore. I'm going to see KOL in Nashville (the lady is a huge fan) and I'm hoping that they bring the house down with lots of oldies and actually play with some emotion and power rather than a "throwaway show" in Montreal. Not every show can have them doing blow off a hooker's ass, blowing up guitars and kicking midgets. Jay caught all kinds of shit for playing a track that Tiesto played, but just because it's popular doesn't mean it's not good music, and I think a lot of people overlook that. "Oh, hundreds of people like KOL because they are mindless sheep and don't know what good music is." I think that's a silly argument, if you like a certain kind of music, then you like it, and people shouldn't say shit about it. Initially I think Jay was bitching about the fact that KOL played like shit, and I'm sure he's right, they're on tour playing shows every 2-3 days, I'm sure it's gonna sound like they're a little bored of it.

Oh well, I think they're a good band, and much better than 90% of rock/grunge bands out there today, and flame me all you want, but I think they have creative songs. They have a much different sound than any band that I've ever heard, and for those saying that they sound like Foo Fighters and Nirvana need to shoot themselves in the face.


Posted by woscar's alt on Sep-19-2009 21:09:

LOL, the shit we gave Jay for Caminando was all in good fun. It's not his fault some moron decided it was a good idea to send Tiesto the promo.


Posted by lenazi on Sep-19-2009 22:23:

the major flaw with your argument lez is that i didn't know how much of a departure that this was from their other albums, because i never heard them. I don't listen to the radio and could not even name you one top 40 song of the moment (edit: false..sex on fire and probably a lady gaga track due to that fag the voice). If i was offended that this would not be an underground show, i would not have went would i? I think they suck...hard.

Lol, zip sounds like a lover scorned because he paid for tickets and i went for free.

As far as caminando goes, it was all in good fun. I would play that track again, even if dj sammy remixed it, solely because i like it, and it was a perfect way in my view to finish off of my set. I don't look at dj charts when i buy music, i buy what i like. The "more underground than dubfire" argument does not stick.

As far as doing a "throw away" show, that isn't my problem. If you want to keep your fans or make new ones, rock the fuck out of every captive audience that you get. If you just want to go through the motions to collect a paycheck...then you don't deserve to be there in the first place. Any one who thinks otherwise needs to shoot themselves in the face. There are more than enough bands out there that would be more than willing to take that opportunity, and kol is hardly irreplaceable.

I don't think they sound like foo fighters or nirvana, because they simply are not even in the same league. It takes more than playing many of their songs using almost all of the same keys to be the same. It takes a level of talent that they do not have, or at least has yet to be seen by me.

I'll forget about this thread and this band pretty fast. Once again not my fault, it is not up to me to leave a lasting impression, but up to the band.


anyway, off to see metallica...and even though i'm not that big of a fan, past experiences dictate that this won't be a "throw away" show...because they are professionals, are tried and tested, and still would not be in the spotlight had they chosen to have the shoddy work ethic of kol. I'm also pretty sure that metallica tours a fuckload more, so what is kol's excuse now?

In 10 years from now no one will remeber them, because they are not that special. You can argue all you want, but the proof will be in the pudding


....take my hand...off to never never land. *bangs head and wiggles cock at groupies*

when i saw nirvana they rocked it the fuck out no matter how many tour dates they had.

same with about the 5 times that i have seen the foo.


Posted by lenazi on Sep-19-2009 22:28:

also why would i be the world's biggest david bowie fan? It seems to me that he is more popular than anyone mentionned in this thread. He is also head and shoulders above them.

you guys are right, he is too known...i'll give back my fan club membership. Shoddy arguments to defend a band that you guys like from someone that thinks they suck imo.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Sep-19-2009 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by lenazi
thinks they suck imo.


This was more or less the point of my post. That's your entire argument right there.


Posted by winston on Sep-19-2009 22:49:


Posted by lenazi on Sep-19-2009 22:52:

sorry, you are completely right, it is my fault that i think they are completely forgettable and that they did not impress me/ showed the stage presence of a box of baked potatoes.


Posted by winston on Sep-19-2009 23:16:

{

beach house, yeasayer, deerhunter, animal collective

/

sad hipster

i am enjoying some senor coconut.

a si mi gusta hahaha

}


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Sep-19-2009 23:33:

quote:
Originally posted by lenazi
sorry, you are completely right, it is my fault that i think they are completely forgettable and that they did not impress me/ showed the stage presence of a box of baked potatoes.


It's not your fault, but it is your opinion.


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