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I cant wait for the 'HELP!! - My Virus Won't Play In Time With Frooty Loops' thread

Yea, I don't understand one bit of this either. Years of research and he never noticed the backside of a Nord lead/rack does not have usb. Years of research and he doesn't know that Virus TI has DSP chips (processors) and a bit of software that drives them - or the fact that that's virtually the same as just software. And even implying software programmers are less dedicated/skilled (because they -arguably- spend less time on algorithms wtf). Is he a software programmer for a VST company now as well? It's funny .

LOL

Robby, seriously, take the hint: you are retarded. Everyone realises it but you. I'm not talking about just this thread either. Every week when I come in here there is a new thread from you which consists of a ridiculous amount of inane, misinformed dribble. I've only been producing for three years at an absolute amateur level and I understand that. That said, I once owned an MS2000 and I understood how it connected to the computer.

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Originally posted by Domesticated Robby, seriously, take the hint: you are retarded. Everyone realises it but you.

Bit rough dude.

DJ Robby Rox might not be the brightest of the bunch, but I am pretty sure that isn't the reason we get threads like this; it's his arrogance and ego, despite obvious lack of knowledge.

dude provides some entertainment though u have to admit

i cant wait to see Robby getting the works done and shut u all up.

i love this guy domesticated, he contributes NOTHING to this subform AT ALL. but comes only to bash this guy, mod?

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox What I said is you couldn't replicate 1 of THOSE 10 samples I submitted. Thats how confident I am that you can't do it. They would be 10 sounds that have a very obvious virus character, many virus sounds have that character, and no software can recreate it. If you don't believe me, again, 1 out of 10.

I would like to try this. For the challenge mainly, not because I think the Virus sucks or have an urge to prove you wrong.

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Originally posted by Fledz It doesn't need to be written, it's something you find out yourself. When I decided to buy my Dyns, do you think I looked at all the options for audio interfaces and made sure I had the right cabling and that everything could theoretically work before I even confirmed my order? Of course I did. Same thing applies here. Logic would dictate that you have everything planned out before buying something.

Well he did do the research, so you can't knock him for that. He came on here with questions and concerns. Once he learned that a new audioface was needed, he probably started having second doubts. I've chatted with Robbie a handful of times on AOLAIM and he's not as obnoxious on here as you might think. And one thing that really surprises me is he was adamant about having me send him my banks of Virus Sounds. (They are just straight recordings from the presets) and he went on about how he likes the Virus and wish he had one.

That is why I brought up the Snow and the connectivity issue. Being somebody new to hardware myself, I just wanted to help him and hopefully I did. I'm 99% certain he is going to be happy with his Virus. And if he's not, the snow's sell for nearly just as new price (they rarely even pop up on ebay ) so he's not going to take some huge hit or something. I guarantee he's going to learn a lot about synth and sound engineering with the Virus. He's going to appreciate the mobility, the non-CPU usage, the synth itself, and the support that Access Music continues to deliver time and time again.

It will be a long time before I buy another synth, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if all synth companies start implenting some form of control via usb so people don't have to have an audio interface. I'll bet some already exist even.

Anyway, this thread has derailed bad. Paging Dr. Diginut?!

I think some of the things that most in this thread have said are completely uncalled for. And those who continue to antagonize one another are just as guilty for the flame it generates which just adds more fuel to the fire.

What I want to know, and still havn't gotten an answer, is why do you professionals out there think a synth like the Virus TI snow is not great for Robbie? Considering he would have to get a new audio interface for the 2X, he would likely end up paying the same amount for the 2x and the snow. With Robbie being new to synths and not even understanding audio interface concepts how in the world am I the only person to tell him to get a Virus (100 times)

I get the sense here that people have egos, and that by telling somebody to get a Virus it's going to harm their egos. That's a bunch of bullshit. I'm still waiting for my answer. What should he have gotten? And don't tell me some bullshit answer like "nothing" - The guy wants hardware, he doesn't know anything about hardware, and he's obviously made the decision that he's going to use online resources instead of going to a local guitar center (if there even is one) and hoping they have a demo out of a 2x or a virus.

Put your money where your mouth is guys. What should he have bought? He likes to make trance, he is just learning how hardware even interfaces, has clearly identified a budget. He obviously is going to want something user friendly based on his previous posts on this board and what could be more friendly than a Virus TI for somebody in his situations?? Please, enlighten me. Enlighten all of us actually. I am eagerly awaiting some responses to this question.

for the fifth time.

nobody has a problem with the synth. It is his ego and ignorance people are calling into question. And to answer your question regarding what I would of bought ? A nord G2.

saying it pisses all over software was a very naive and destructive comment, especially after hardly any use or knowledge of the synth, people think a TI is gonna make their tracks better, it wont.

Ok this is all fun and games reading this but come on what happened to our MOD....

I would suggest stop bitching at each other and just put your money where your mouth is and do a preset comp off.

This would be funny.

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Originally posted by RichieV for the fifth time. nobody has a problem with the synth. It is his ego and ignorance people are calling into question. And to answer your question regarding what I would of bought ? A nord G2.

No - The question is what would you have suggested he bought. Doesn't have anything to do with what you would have bought because you're in a completely different position. He's a very transparent person and lets people know what he was thinking (which sometimes does ruffle some feathers) - Regardless, No need to bait him. If he thinks the Virus is the end-all-be then let him believe that. It's all subjective anyway. He's excited. He just got his first piece of hardware and he got a really nice piece.

So again, just to be clear, considering his circumstances which you know, you would have recommended to him to buy a nord g2? midi dumps and sysex jumps will be dinosaur crap before you know it. there is no need for him to begin with something like that. Of course he needs to learn interfacing of synths that are not USB fueled, but he doesn't need one as his first synthesizer. Just my opinion. I'll bet he's very happy he took my advice.

Is it really so hard for people to learn how to interface a non-USB synth with their computer? Compared to learning how to program the synth itself in depth, hooking it up to your computer is a piece of cake...

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Originally posted by palm if this threads gets modded by its current state im gonna leave here, theres nothing more here to me if discussion isnt allowed. please let this thread be modded so i can leave lol.

Congrats on your new synth
Hope it helps you with your production.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Is it really so hard for people to learn how to interface a non-USB synth with their computer? Compared to learning how to program the synth itself in depth, hooking it up to your computer is a piece of cake...

It is....but it's not if you've never done it before and don't understand how synths are interfaced. EVERYBODY learned one way or another how interfacing was done. Wether it was on their own, explained to them, they saw friends doing it, etc. Now once he would have gotten the manual (but he hadn't bought it yet) it would have told him what he needed, but he couldn't get that information, so he asked. There is no such thing as a dumb question. I've seen far worse, myself included, on this forum.

Hehe sorry somehow I thought it was you who started the thread.
Anywayz robby I hope you like your new synth

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley Put your money where your mouth is guys. What should he have bought? He likes to make trance, he is just learning how hardware even interfaces, has clearly identified a budget. He obviously is going to want something user friendly based on his previous posts on this board and what could be more friendly than a Virus TI for somebody in his situations?? Please, enlighten me. Enlighten all of us actually. I am eagerly awaiting some responses to this question.

Hi Well.. If you want my N.B.S.H.O. I think something like a little phatty and a jv 1080 would have been better startoff synths. The LP sells for $700 used and is true analog. meaning that the sum cost of the material resources that go in each box is of greater monetary value than those of digital synths. No digi or soft synth can make the sounds this thing can make. The oscilators the filter the adsr are all analog. It would cost him a few hundred if he wanted to clone it coz it is not only analog but some of the components are discrete its not all i.c.
The virus on the other hand is an all digital synth. The sum cost of material resources that go into this box is nothing to right home about ''Shhhhh I am trying to sell these great $$$ to be made'' but it is still a synth that has been used for many trance classics and while many people feel it is all topping n no cake if the 90's digital fx overload virus sound is something you crave you can do a lot worse than pick one up. I used to own one... and trust me many classics have been made with this synth

Listen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=torS...feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHA6qjvuoqY

The roland Jv series are industry standard for realistic sounds and have been used for countless platinum selling records. Best of all they can be found for 200 used. You can tell how much effort was put in these boxes they ooze with quality.

So the simpler and better sounding moog LP, a roland jv 1080 or jv2080 and a wee mixer would have been better start off synths and a lot more value used for $1000 but since he has already bought the virus synth I just wished him luck and congratulated him on the purchase. Stephen in all honesty when you are learning the ropes of production, sound design and mixing yourself don't come here with an attitude like ''what the fuck why isn't the whole world telling him to get the super awesome great virus synth coz you just gonna look silly no pun intended hehe

Like I said Robby congrats on your new synth and I hope it makes your music sound better

It would take a month to correct all the stupid shit people have said in this thread.

To the people wondering how this guy could "be a member of this forum for so long and not know anything about synths"... your answer is "this thread".

I'll never understand why people insist on giving others advice regarding things they themselves don't know a thing about. It's as obvious to everyone who has a clue as it would be to NASA if I tried to convince them that I was an astronaut.

Unfortunately, I doubt it will ever improve here. For every poster here I see making sense, there seem to be 50 more who will get angry and tell that person they're wrong.

It's a good indicator of this scene as a whole though. Look at the music being released, for example. If these people weren't stuck in some kind of circle jerk where each one gets 2 minutes to receive praise from all the others (and is expected to give praise back in return), maybe the shitty producers would start to weed themselves out.

"PLEASE VOTE FOR ME!!!"

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Originally posted by Existo22 Stephen in all honesty when you are learning the ropes of production, sound design and mixing yourself don't come here with an attitude like ''what the fuck why isn't the whole world telling him to get the super awesome great virus synth coz you just gonna look silly

No...I think this makes my comment hold even more water since I was in his shoes a few months ago as far as hardware goes. The guy doesn't even know he needed an interface and you want him to buy an LP and JV?

I'm sorry but I think that is very dumb advice. Just my opinion.

I can't speak to the JV, but the LP is easy to set up and dead simple to use. Honestly if someone could not figure out how to set up an LP with audio interface and make some basic patches within a few hours, he should probably not be spending money on a hardware synth at all, let alone a Virus with all its programming options.

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley Well he did do the research, so you can't knock him for that.

Clearly our definition of research differs then. If you've spent months researching a synth or multiple synths and can't be sure if and how they will connect to your computer, then you're doing it wrong.

^^ agreed, or he could have gone to his local music store and seen one for himself. Doesnt have to be the one his buying, but fck would have helped him out a bit.

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Originally posted by Fledz Clearly our definition of research differs then. If you've spent months researching a synth or multiple synths and can't be sure if and how they will connect to your computer, then you're doing it wrong.

Which is exactly why he made this thread??? LOL

He openly admits and asks for help regarding this topic. He was probably focused on sound, how it would fit his needs, who knows. The bottom line is he asked for help because he wasn't sure how it all connected and worked. That is the main reason why I stressed getting the Virus so much. He will learn a lot from the Snow he bought and should make some great sounds with it as well.

I guess it's a matter of opinion. Some think he shouldn't be getting any hardware because he doesn't know how to connect it which makes them think he didnt "study" enough, or whatever. Some think (like me) he should get something that will integrate easily in his work flow and provide a work horse and teach him a lot, and others think he needs to get an audio interface, an LP, and a JV. (This combination would be out of his price range if you paid attention. JV is $200 and you get no cards. It's bread and butter ROM patches from 2 decades ago. LP, getting a stage II is the way to go not a used one off eBay that still is going to break his price range after you factor in an audio interface that isn't a piece of shit)

Excuse me for suggesting a practical and efficient idea to him. I apologize that he listened and bought the Snow. Hopefully he won't get on here and talk about how bad it sucks because afterall he has no business having one because he didn't study it enough. That, and he needs to be getting an LP, an audio interface, and a JV (get some ROM cards while you're at it. Those bread and butter sounds are impossible to find elsewhere) even though he clearly wanted a single polyphonic synth to begin with.

Excuse me for getting the red-ass over this but people need to start reading the original posts and looking at the big picture. This topic is a prime example of it. I mentioned the Virus because I already personally knew he was interested in getting one.

Finally, I'll bet any amount of money to whoever wants to bet that he will be more than satisfied with his Snow and the choice he made. So the thread served its purpose but didn't require stupid banter that should have never begun in the first place and wouldn't have if people would have just thought a bit about the big picture. If somebody declares they're buying something and you can't stop them, why start an argument about how much, or how little, research they did? Why suggest an expensive 1 voice analog synth when the person is clearly looking for a polyphonic VA. Makes absolutely zero sense to me. Not to mention the fact that they should get a JV too, which will require an audio interface, extra cables, etc. I am almost certain what he paid for the Snow was at the brink of his budget.


Here is a question....

Why would you NOT suggest Robby get a Virus TI after he has made it plainly obvious that he is going to buy a polyphonic VA? Some answers with substance would be cool too. The "everybody has one" is getting old. The Virus has thousands among thousands of presets alone plus endless sound design capabilities.

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