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| Originally posted by Mattinsanity where's your articulate elaboration to explain why it didn't? why do you think the real progressive trance tracks can be long and at least 10 minutes like progressive house? |
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| Originally posted by Trance-MB I'm not going to discuss where trance came from, just want to remark that about every answer I read here gets mentioned at this German wiki page too: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trance_(Musik) |
in verbindung mit = connected to
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| Originally posted by Mattinsanity where's your articulate elaboration to explain why it didn't? why do you think the real progressive trance tracks can be long and at least 10 minutes like progressive house? |
I may be insane and twisted but I ain't a retard.
I'm still waiting for your eloquent speech to prove me wrong again.
no the fact that they're long was only my 2nd argument. I already stated two facts:
- progressive trance debuted right after progressive house
- both genres can have tracks over 10 minutes long, which is significant leading up to my next point:
- their length shows how they're both focused on progression instead of being housey or trancey. progressive trance got that idea from progressive house - it had to. marc mitchell's productions as sunday club are quintessential when it comes to that progression.
No.
The adjective "progressive" did not refer to "being focused on progression." That is just the later misinterpretation that Internet trance kids put on it.
lol well if yall keep being on the defensive instead of countering my arguments, I'm all for it.
who was talking about internet trance kids? I hate them too. the focus on progression is my argument.
Ishkur, you already had your fucking brightest hour.
-you proved me wrong by saying progressive trance exists (even though I was humble enough by not showing any resistance)
-you said trance didn't derive from house, and others proved your point.
give me my fucking spotlight now. progressive trance is progressive house's bitch ok?
Well, it's stupid because ALL TRANCE* has 10 minute tracks and minute progressions. That's why it's TRANCE. What's your next proof, that they both have a 4/4 kick?
I already explained earlier in this thread why you're wrong.
But since you need some sort of audio clue, here's a tip:
In 1992, when progressive house emerged, it sounded like this:
In 1994, when progressive trance emerged, it sounded like this:
You're putting up an awful lot of fight now for the existence of a genre that you earlier in the thread said didn't exist. If you want to say one is a direct antecedent of the other, go right ahead. History doesn't agree with you.
* not including euro disney cheese
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| Originally posted by Mattinsanity Ishkur, you already had your fucking brightest hour. give me my fucking spotlight now. |
No need to prove anything to him. He already made himself look like a clown when he said that Life on Mars sounded like hardtrance LOL
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| Originally posted by Ishkur I'm not interested in fairness. Nor am I interested in bludgeoning you with the mallet of truth. I am only interested in facts. If you say something that is wrong, I'm going to call you out on it. Your fault for dragging me back here. Don't fucking do it again. |
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| No need to prove anything to him. He already made himself look like a clown when he said that Life on Mars sounded like hardtrance LOL |
Matt, if anyone has been trolled into this thread, it's you. You're constantly smashing a genre with little thought to the relevance of your criticism. Even if your thesis was proven true, it will never, ever be as important as you seem to think it is. As it stands, the only thing you've done is created an artificial controversy where none would have existed, before.
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| Originally posted by EddieZilker Matt, if anyone has been trolled into this thread, it's you. You're constantly smashing a genre with little thought to the relevance of your criticism. Even if your thesis was proven true, it will never, ever be as important as you seem to think it is. As it stands, the only thing you've done is created an artificial controversy where none would have existed, before. |
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| Originally posted by Mattinsanity ... |
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| Originally posted by Mattinsanity I wasn't lying when I made this thread. I'm a 22 year old korean chump and former ban who's been on this site since 2003. don't be mad at me that TA's back in 2003 were saying progressive trance didn't exist. I made this thread solely on their case. it's easy to ridicule them when they existed 8 years ago. |
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| Originally posted by Ishkur Well, it's stupid because ALL TRANCE* has 10 minute tracks and minute progressions. That's why it's TRANCE. What's your next proof, that they both have a 4/4 kick? I already explained earlier in this thread why you're wrong. But since you need some sort of audio clue, here's a tip: In 1992, when progressive house emerged, it sounded like this: In 1994, when progressive trance emerged, it sounded like this: You're putting up an awful lot of fight now for the existence of a genre that you earlier in the thread said didn't exist. If you want to say one is a direct antecedent of the other, go right ahead. History doesn't agree with you. * not including euro disney cheese |
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| Originally posted by Mattinsanity obviously this doesn't sound like a shokk or alphazone track, but that's because early hard trance sounded different. |
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| Originally posted by Mattinsanity I'm not a system j dickrider whatsoever but tell me why he says epic house is a subgenre of progressive house that bridged the gap between progressive house and progressive trance? |
Whoever says Progressive is Progressive Trance is a d*ck! Yes sometimes they have similarities but they aren't the same genre nonetheless.
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| Originally posted by dj christian Whoever says Progressive is Progressive Trance is a d*ck! Yes sometimes they have similarities but they aren't the same genre nonetheless. |
progressive trance = progressive house pitched up 5%. end of story
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| Originally posted by Ronald Ravin' progressive trance = progressive house pitched up 5%. end of story |
why don't you read the thread instead of starting an argument about something already covered in it
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| Originally posted by Ronald Ravin' progressive trance = progressive house pitched up 5%. end of story |
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