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Originally posted by Junior Chavez lol. i can imagine. somewhere out there there's an independent movie clovis talking shit on other independent movie clovis'. lol.

lmao

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Originally posted by R!CH what you're trying to get at is not even what i'm talking about. what i'm talking about is... 1) commercial music is cheesy, cheap, formulaic, mediocre, etc, etc, etc - agree or disagree, this has nothing to do with the fans or their enjoyment 2) the argument that some dj's merit as an artist can be explained through his money or dj mag is fallacious - there is no correlation here in fact were i poll every long time fan of armin van buuren in regards to when he was a the top of his artistic game, i'd bet a strong majority would vote for some time long before he topped dj mag's chart. same with tiesto and pvd.

1) Commercial/Cheap music = more accessible to noobs who will come to parties and enjoy themselves. Armin/Guetta obviously have gotten more fans as they've moved their sound closer to the mainstream (and the mainstream has moved more to EDM).
2) As I've said, ranking DJ's is largely a waste of time. Still, if these guys do their jobs right (play music people like) then they'll move up the chart and make more money. The dj mag poll simply tells us who currently has the ability to provide a good time for the most people. That might not be important to you, but the ability for a musician to entertain is not something which should be completely discounted either.

But honestly, I think we've been 95% in agreement the whole time. I can't believe I've wasted an entire afternoon on this.

Now to go find beeraddict.com and start some shit.

drunken flame wars, now there's an idea!

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Originally posted by bas lol In fact, movie buffs are bigger assholes than music buffs! You think the dance music elite are bad, you have no idea

what makes you think movie buffs are bigger assholes than Dance Music Buffs huh asshole!

score:
Billy 1
Bas 0


(safety wink for everyone that takes the internet too seriously)

Ive said it before, and will say it again,
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO SAY WHAT MUSIC IS GOOD OR BAD
Your taste is your choice, stop judging other people and get a fucking life!

are you here to replace tommy as the emotional brat of the thread?

i've said it before and i'll say it again... i didn't say any music is bad, i didn't even judge anyone. stop crying, start reading.

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Originally posted by R!CH i've said it before and i'll say it again... i didn't say any music is bad, i didn't even judge anyone. stop crying, start reading.

I think part of the problem is that you said "cheesy," "formulaic," etc... all of which have very strong negative connotations. This implies that you think such music is "bad" or at least is worth less than more "underground" music.

This judgment is fine, as any of us can think whatever we want about anything. But no music is intrinsically "good" or "bad." (You didn't say "bad" but the implication was there)

I agree that the DJ Mag poll only gives us a rough estimate of whose music gives the most pleasure to the most people.

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Originally posted by R!CH i've said it before and i'll say it again...

it's as if you're talking to a brick wall

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Originally posted by Tosh Ive said it before, and will say it again, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO SAY WHAT MUSIC IS GOOD OR BAD Your taste is your choice, stop judging other people and get a fucking life!

Who are these magical people who don't judge others that you speak of?

this thread needs a couple bumps of k

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen this thread needs a couple bumps of k

Gawwwd... I have so much to say too.... but I'm going to keep my mouth shut

Had to do it!

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen this thread needs a couple bumps of k

are we out of coke already? brooo...

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Originally posted by mar46017 Had to do it!

lol, i'm not surprised this track exists... if this is success, someone point me to the failboat (my ears will thank you)

actually i would love to see this track played at a fmim party in nyc. anyone remember simon's nyc club pics from back in the day?

Lol he played that at TAO. We were dying. Crowd was eating his shit up though. Not my thing but I have seen him twice, WMC 08(Space Terrace) and TAO and the crowd was going off both times.

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Originally posted by GPC Lol he played that at TAO. We were dying. Crowd was eating his shit up though. Not my thing but I have seen him twice, WMC 08(Space Terrace) and TAO and the crowd was going off both times.

I still here you talking shit all day on new years day, "im david guetta bitch!!"

http://www.billboard.com/#/charts/dance-club-play-songs

check #1 on billboard this week, TA's favorite!

fitting that he's there right alongside pitbull, don't you think? man billboards has all the good music right there! why would you even bother searching for anything better?!


"who took the sunshine and turned it into microwavable popcorn for profit? ... and i am by no means anti-pop music, simply because pop is not a musical form"
-- dj linus - who stole the soul

the same rant made into a house track, who'd have thought?

There is and has been some really great pop music made though.

What more do you expect of those kids at the Guetta gig?

They're too busy with their damn Facebook, iPhones, TV shows, fashion trends (hipster, scene, hip-hop, etc.), video games, drugs, & sex to spend the time on an internet forum to share a specific passion. After a full day of work making money for a corporate suit to pay off bills/loans/debt, time with the significant other, & maybe some exercise, who can blame these people for just wanting to relax on the couch to watch some TV & get exposure to commercial music?

The rise of EDM in American pop culture shouldn't surprise anyone. Of course a lot of the names we used to love will sell out - musicians have been doing it for decades. You would pass up the life of a rockstar because remixing a song about taking shots is beneath you? There's an endless line of other DJs who would jump at that opportunity.

I officially have a mental crush on rich's psyche.

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Originally posted by couch-potato After a full day of work making money for a corporate suit to pay off bills/loans/debt, time with the significant other, & maybe some exercise, who can blame these people for just wanting to relax on the couch to watch some TV & get exposure to commercial music?

Lackluster excuse imo. I quit the hobby of djing/clubbing/having a raging weekend party life years ago when the ills of a consistant 80 hour work week really kicked in, I "sold out" and so began my addiction to the milk I suckle from the corporate teet. Yet I still have the time to make concious decisions about quality of music I listen to, music that has something to be expressed or said to me the listener other than "i have ableton and 20 minutes, lets make a hit!"

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Originally posted by couch-potato What more do you expect of those kids at the Guetta gig? They're too busy with their damn Facebook, iPhones, TV shows, fashion trends (hipster, scene, hip-hop, etc.), video games, drugs, & sex to spend the time on an internet forum to share a specific passion. After a full day of work making money for a corporate suit to pay off bills/loans/debt, time with the significant other, & maybe some exercise, who can blame these people for just wanting to relax on the couch to watch some TV & get exposure to commercial music? The rise of EDM in American pop culture shouldn't surprise anyone. Of course a lot of the names we used to love will sell out - musicians have been doing it for decades. You would pass up the life of a rockstar because remixing a song about taking shots is beneath you? There's an endless line of other DJs who would jump at that opportunity.

*thumbs up

Seems to me like a lot of people arguing the contrary would rather be sidekick Mo Williams than superstar Lebron James.

If you feel the adulation of a few that know about the industry is more satisfying than more money , more women, more fame , better technology , invites to the best celebrity parties then fair play to you because its obvious that stagnating in your career is more important than moving up the corporate ladder.

Personally , it sounds more to me like the minority Emo kids who go on about how messed up the world is because they dont agree with their point of view.

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Originally posted by Clovis There is and has been some really great pop music made though.

ya i'll stick to my commercial music criticisms, but i heard those lyrics just the other day and thought they were relevant to this thread. i'm sure there's still good pop music out there today, but it's marooned in such a vast sea of shit it's like finding a quarter in a septic tank... you begin to ask yourself if it's worth looking for.

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