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Posted by Intellekshual on Jan-27-2010 09:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Renzo
Is it gay if you play Just the Tip? Just the tip. Just the tip, to see how it feels.

Only if you like it.


Posted by Renzo on Jan-27-2010 09:25:

Of course I liked it. I was drunk and naive. And in love.

wat

Hold me, Selma. Hold me for this night shall soon pass.


Posted by Intellekshual on Jan-27-2010 09:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Renzo
Of course I liked it. I was drunk and naive. And in love.

wat

Hold me, Selma. Hold me for this night shall soon pass.

*squeez*

Gotta go catch my ZzZzz's. Bonne nuit. =)


Posted by FuzzQi on Jan-27-2010 09:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Enigmatik

I don't get what is so bad about gay and lesbian relationships? Homosexuals can build families too. And to what benefit is it to pressure people into making a choice to get along because that is the "norm" if the norm isn't what they want? Why shouldn't everyone have a choice of what kind of relationship they want to have with whom?


What I mean is the whole "yeah I am married"

"Oh, what's her name? Kids? Etc?"

"Elliot"

"Oh my"

And discussions similar to this thread all the time; it would be too much for me to keep up.


Posted by Moongoose on Jan-27-2010 09:50:

Why the need to keep up? You go trough the usual banter, and if the person youre talking too is uncomfortable or offended by your situation you go about your day. No need to entertain the bigots, theyll end up in a minority some day anyway, but the less thie issue is talked about the latter that day will come.


Posted by Jake Benson on Jan-27-2010 10:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
Why the need to keep up? You go trough the usual banter, and if the person youre talking too is uncomfortable or offended by your situation you go about your day. No need to entertain the bigots, theyll end up in a minority some day anyway, but the less thie issue is talked about the latter that day will come.


Bigots are the new faggots.

On an interesting note I found a logical anti-gay argument that I can't invalidate. If too many people become gay and they don't make efforts to reproduce and skews society to make less than 2.11 children per couple, then their culture will decline. That's not good. So we can't have that many gay people, unless of course we force the fags to mate with the Lesbians. I bet that's the grossest porn ever...HOLY SHIT I'M GONNA PRODUCE THIS PORN!


Posted by boris_the_bear on Jan-27-2010 10:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
To address your points:

1. I'm more pessimistic now. I didn't realise the statistics were as high as 51%. Surely you would call that 'regularly'?

I never said anything about abolishing marriage, or a traditional family unit. I do think, though, that it might be a little naive of you to think that the other 49% of people are doing a great job of parenting. If you're married with children, does that AUTOMATICALLY make you a good parent? I think not.

well i didn't say that either, did i? and the numbers were just a random guess. i'm just saying that a family is a mommy and a daddy. children should be raised in the natural environment and then set free to choose their own way in life, even despite all the issues related to the contemporary family.
quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
2. I didn't ask for proof about gay single parents raising children, I asked for your opinion on the matter.

Are you generally homophobic? If you found out that one of your best friends was gay, would you instantly change your opinion of them? I'm not asking in order to put you down, I'm just curious.

jesus christ, haven't we been over this in the jake benson thread a long time ago? (remember that "/i have succeeded" part? lol). i'm afraid i might not have the correct understanding of "homophobic" so i'll break it down:
- am i against gays in general? a yes/no answer is not applicable. it's the same as asking "are you against apples?";
- am i against same-sex relationships? no;
- am i against same-sex marriages? no;
- am i against same-sex couples adopting kids? yes;
- am i against using the word "family" for same-sex couples? yes;
- am i against our kids being taught that being gay is normal? yes.
- would i change my opinion about gays if i found out that my best friend was gay? no; i'd just have a great excuse to say "lol that's ghey dude"
- would i try it? life in unpredictable

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
Talk to one former eastern block peon and you've spoken to them all, they're basically the hillbilly's of Europe that spend most of their time drunk, unconscious or beating their wife/1st cousin. I mean Ben was about the only one who wasn't a complete inbred arsehole and capable of stringing a paragraph together, not dealing out gross generalisations or anything as is often the trend, just saying y'know

opinions like these are the general cause of all conflicts on earth. i don't even want to elaborate this further


Posted by FuzzQi on Jan-27-2010 10:39:

Ha, maybe I'm just a hetero because it's easier to explain to others


Posted by Jake Benson on Jan-27-2010 10:42:

Oh Boris...let's flame you just for fun...and because you're just so couture right now.

quote:
Originally posted by boris_the_bear
jesus christ, haven't we been over this in the jake benson thread a long time ago?


Well as long as you keep talking like a fucking idiot then I'll keep frontin in yo shit with my gayness. I challenge you a game of horseshoes...a game of HORSESHOES!

quote:
Originally posted by boris_the_bear
- am i against same-sex couples adopting kids? yes;

I'm against you adopting children too.

quote:
Originally posted by boris_the_bear
- am i against using the word "family" for same-sex couples? yes;

I'm against using the word "straight" for you. You're clearly a fag. Common who name's their kid Boris. Might as well be Borat or Bruno.

quote:
Originally posted by boris_the_bear
- am i against our kids being taught that being gay is normal? yes.

I am against people like you who made it possible for me to grow up thinking I was different, maladaptive, and inferior just because I'm gay. It took me 15 years to figure out how to deconstruct destructive sociological mores on top of oppressive laws that still exist today.

quote:
Originally posted by boris_the_bear
- would i change my opinion about gays if i found out that my best friend was gay? no; i'd just have a great excuse to say "lol that's ghey dude"
- would i try it? life in unpredictable

You'd go gay for the night if I gave you the hottest girl and $10,000 bucks on the condition that I EFF you in the AYY. But actually I dunno you could be really ugly. Post pics please.


Posted by boris_the_bear on Jan-27-2010 10:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Oh Boris...let's flame you just for fun...and because you're just so couture right now.

always at your service, faggot boy

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Well as long as you keep talking like a fucking idiot then I'll keep frontin in yo shit with my gayness. I challenge you a game of horseshoes...a game of HORSESHOES!

wow. how did you hide that text? just curious

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
I'm against you adopting children too.

i'm ok with that

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
I'm against using the word "straight" for you. You're clearly a faggot yourself. After all your name is Boris. Might as well be Borat or Bruno.

you can even use the word "banana" for me. i don't mind.

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
I am against people like you who made it possible for me to grow up thinking I was different, maladaptive, and inferior just because I'm gay. It took me 15 years to figure out how to deconstruct destructive sociological mores on top of oppressive laws that still exist today.

woah.. hold your horses. i said homosexuality is not normal. i didn't say homosexuals are generally inferior or should be treated accordingly. for instance, if we have a bunch of sheep, then a white sheep would be a normal (usual) sheep and a grey/black/striped sheep would be not normal (striped sheep would be awesome actually). now all sheep are divided into those wearing a normal color and those wearing an unusual (not normal) color. where does it say that those unusually colored are inferior? same flesh, same bones, same fur.


quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson You'd go gay for the night if I gave you the hottest girl and $10,000 bucks on the condition that I EFF you in the AYY.

easily. i'd even try to enjoy it. 10,000 bucks is serious money
edit: oh, did you say something about the hottest girl?


Posted by kr00t0n on Jan-27-2010 11:25:

quote:
Originally posted by R.j.
Personally, I feel this world can only sustain some sense of decency if it abides by some (not all) traditional values that have defined it in various respects.

edit:
And no, I don't think homosexuals are filth. But when you really break it down, homosexuality, whether you think so or not, is in one sense or another unnatural.



Posted by Lilith on Jan-27-2010 11:35:

quote:
Originally posted by boris_the_bear
opinions like these are the general cause of all conflicts on earth. i don't even want to elaborate this further


Here's the double irony because you're dense.

Its not fun being marginalised about something is it? I have no validation about pigeon-holing you as a backwater hick, you have no reason to stick me or anyone else in the same broad brush stroke of generalisation either.
Its called equality, something people fight for all over the world

Secondly, this is an electronic music forum, what do you really expect. Back in the day electronic music wasn't popularised by people like you, it was popularised by a very large homosexual community.


Posted by Arbiter on Jan-27-2010 13:37:

I can't support marriage for homosexuals, seeing as I don't support marraige for heterosexuals.

Regarding adoption, I think that babies should just be bought and sold on the open market. So, if a gay couple wanted to purchase one, it would just depend on finding a seller who was willing to sell to them at a price they were willing to pay.


Posted by boris_the_bear on Jan-27-2010 13:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
Secondly, this is an electronic music forum, what do you really expect. Back in the day electronic music wasn't popularised by people like you, it was popularised by a very large homosexual community.

ok. i has understooded. tranceaddict is a very large electronic homosexual music forum



thanks for popularizing electronic music, fags!


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-27-2010 15:16:

Why are people convinced that homosexuality is some sort of plague that will spread if we condone it?


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jan-27-2010 15:28:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Why are people convinced that homosexuality is some sort of plague that will spread if we condone it?




Well, have you SEEN the mongoloid head on Boris? Missing link, imo.


Posted by Schadenfreude on Jan-27-2010 15:29:

I support homosexuals marrying and adopting, but only if they are chinese or black babies that would get eaten otherwise.

I was raised by 2 dads and look how good i ended up. lol end up.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jan-27-2010 15:47:

they can marry but they shouldnt be allowed to adopt.

i don't buy the whole genetic factor thing to homosexuality (it hasnt been conclusively proven) and thus it seems like a lifestyle choice. (so be it if it is.. i have no complaints) but if you are raising a child as a homosexual couple you are basically instilling a nurture effect that two parents should be of the same sex as they are constantly observing it.

If you think about this from an evoultionary perspective its great for population control.

You're basically breeding infertility.

The opposing side to it is that there are so many orphan kids out there that need parents. Homosexuals are predominatley wealthy especially when you have two males (two bread winners). So they can fair off to be good parents.

Its an odd predicament that would need to be looked at carefully.


Posted by Ania_xox on Jan-27-2010 15:52:

It is very difficult to become comfortable with an idea that goes against something that is deeply ingrained in your psyche. That doesn't give you the right to openly criticize. Straight people have no right to openly criticize the beliefs of gay people just as much as gay people have no right to openly criticize the beliefs of straight people.

I have yet to meet a person who treats gay people differently than straight people, even if they are not ok with homosexuality.
Everyone lives their life based on their own theories about everything. My dad doesn't believe in taking antibiotics because he thinks they are unnatural and bad for your system.

And I can't fucking stand the pompous need for some gay people to flaunt their gayness. It makes more of an issue of their sexual preference than any opposing party would. Attention whoring on steroids.

It's just as annoying as feminists who worship women like Simone de Beauvoir or Helene Cixous and walk around with Tshirts that say "Castration: a sure-fire way to stop rape"

Or some Jewish opportunists who live their entire lives scapegoating themselves based on the events of WWII
Gypsies and invalids were also mass murdered in the Holocaust.

Or certain black people who think that everything negative that happens in their lives happens because they are black. And jump at any opportunity to call someone a racist.


It's all fucking ridiculous nonsense. We are all entitled to our own beliefs, no?
If your beliefs differ from mine - that's cool.
You believe in reincarnation and I don't?
I am against abortion and you are pro-choice?
You think of the Quran as holy scripture and I rarely go to church anymore?
I am gay and you think homosexuality is unnatural?
That's cool. I'm sure we can still be friends despite our differences.


Posted by Schadenfreude on Jan-27-2010 16:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
they can marry but they shouldnt be allowed to adopt.

i don't buy the whole genetic factor thing to homosexuality (it hasnt been conclusively proven) and thus it seems like a lifestyle choice. (so be it if it is.. i have no complaints) but if you are raising a child as a homosexual couple you are basically instilling a nurture effect that two parents should be of the same sex as they are constantly observing it.

If you think about this from an evoultionary perspective its great for population control.

You're basically breeding infertility.

The opposing side to it is that there are so many orphan kids out there that need parents. Homosexuals are predominatley wealthy especially when you have two males (two bread winners). So they can fair off to be good parents.

Its an odd predicament that would need to be looked at carefully.


karim we don't live in Afghanistan and it is no longer 1952. Both males and females can be bread winners. I'm not talking about yeast infections either.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jan-27-2010 16:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
karim we don't live in Afghanistan and it is no longer 1952. Both males and females can be bread winners. I'm not talking about yeast infections either.


can and are are different terms.

Statistically men make more money then women. Those fat dykes just spend their money on cake


Posted by ivofivo on Jan-27-2010 16:06:

Never liked gays...don't understand their tendencies.

Not a personal preference really, just how they make me feel.

Was on an airplane next to 2 gays, I felt uncomfortable and violated

when they looked at me.

Gay marriage? Nah.

Depressed kids? Nah

Free speech. Win.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Jan-27-2010 16:09:

quote:
Originally posted by ivofivo
Never liked gays...don't understand their tendencies.

Not a personal preference really, just how they make me feel.

Was on an airplane next to 2 gays, I felt uncomfortable and violated

when they looked at me.





You realize that's YOUR problem, not theirs, right? Fuck, do you all dwell in the same cave?


Posted by Acton on Jan-27-2010 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by ivofivo
Was on an airplane next to 2 gays, I felt uncomfortable and violated

when they looked at me.


That's rather pathetic.


Posted by ivofivo on Jan-27-2010 16:17:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
You realize that's YOUR problem, not theirs, right? Fuck, do you all dwell in the same cave?


Oh its their problem alright. Cause if it wasn't they would be accepted with a snap of a finger.

Lets keep this world a safer place.


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