Guv All-Access Parties: On the decline?

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Posted by Dark_Archonis on Mar-07-2010 09:50:

I think the scene has become more fragmented, and at the same time more commercial. Some say that having a commercial scene is good for the underground, well not really.

As Guv and other Toronto clubs have become more commercial over the years, the rave scene for example in Toronto has continued to shrink and has basically almost died off.

The "underground" scene in Toronto isn't that great either, it's in decline I would say. Clubs like TIL, Footwork, Circa, none of these are underground places, they are quite commercial. Footwork especially has become quite commercial and popular compared to years ago. I know a lot of "Joe blows" and "Jane Does" (who know very little about electronic music) that go to Footwork on a regular basis. Most of the time they may not even know who is spinning, but they go there anyways.

As for expecting new and fresh talent or variety in Toronto, it's simply wishful thinking. It's never going to happen in Toronto unless the culture totally changes, and the chance of Toronto's culture changing (for the better) ... almost zero.

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Originally posted by Spin Laden
Montreal def has same issues with the crap Bal en Blanc parties.

Book the cheese but surround them with djs that will leave a lasing impression, kill two birds with one stone, imo. I remember a party in 2007 when ppl came to see Guetta but came away afterwards saying "that Fanciulli was pretty good, better than David Guetta". That's what you want the newbies to say since Guetta always plays identical to what you'd hear in a nightclub.

Bring the crap djs to fill the floor, but book the decent ones too to bring them back.

Who cares? A party on the scale of Bal en Blanc is more about the atmosphere and experience than the DJs. Toronto has no events anywhere near the scale of Bal en Blanc, so it doesn't have to deal with this "problem".

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Originally posted by The Highroller
So then how do artists become popular then? How do lesser known DJs become better known? How is it that scenes in other parts of the world are more diverse than ours (i.e. a larger number of artists filling large clubs/festivals, instead of the same tired DJs over and over like Guv)? By promoters taking risks and staying in top of trends.

How, well maybe the fact that other parts of the world have a different culture and society?

What do you expect in Toronto, where there is a culture of mediocrity and a culture of the almighty dollar.

Posted by Yohan on Mar-07-2010 13:37:

support gigs that has DJs that normally dont come to Toronto if you want to see more of those gigs

Posted by CAKE on Mar-07-2010 14:25:

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Originally posted by sizzle_3
Guetta in the main room

I remember i saw Guetta at Lot 332 right when "the world is mine" came out the place was full but not packed so you coulden't dance and Guetta was fucken rocked off his tree and played one of the best sets i have ever herd

Posted by Spin Laden on Mar-07-2010 16:27:

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Originally posted by Dark_Archonis
Who cares? A party on the scale of Bal en Blanc is more about the atmosphere and experience than the DJs. Toronto has no events anywhere near the scale of Bal en Blanc, so it doesn't have to deal with this "problem".

that is pretty evident last few years, wasn't in years past, however

Posted by jon jon on Mar-07-2010 17:28:

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Originally posted by Djsketchbag
Guetta was fucken rocked off his tree

lol why would you say that? he seemed pretty sober to me

Posted by Endlesswave on Mar-07-2010 17:42:

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Originally posted by jon jon
lol why would you say that? he seemed pretty sober to me

He was...he didn't seem wasted to me at all either. It was a fun night. No real flow to his set but it was fun nonetheless. TAs made the night, also Max Graham chilling in the booth is never a bad thing.

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