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hehe, you should stalk ********. really make him batshit insane.
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| Originally posted by tubularbills still a stalking tool. |
LOL
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| Originally posted by leph555 Once again, how much would we really be helping him like this. I hope someone knows him IRL here, so you can get in contact with his parents and the authorities. |
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| Originally posted by jennypie Right. It has nothing to do with the complex stressors of today's world at all. Food and exercise, yup. The ONLY two factors to consider when discussing how to treat depression. Lol. |
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| Originally posted by jennypie Furthermore, what you're talking about here equates to victim blaming...and while the average idiot still thinks this way about health and wellness (behavioural/lifestyle factors), people in the health care world have long moved beyond that type of thinking to recognize that there are a broad number of socioenvironmental factors that contribute to well-being. Or lack thereof. Your type of thinking isn't entirely wrong, of course healthy habits/lifestyle are beneficial to good health; however, this is under the assumption that everybody has the same access to good food, exercise, etc. You need to understand that for some people, whether they want to choose a healthy lifestyle or not, there may be several barriers to them attaining it. Yours is a simple answer to a much more complex problem than you clearly understand. |
everybody, everybody- he updated his original post, concluding that he's not gonna try eating OTC medicine to death again like last time
thread concluded. way to hide your obvious cry for attention that half the people called you out on by editing your post instead of simply posting a reply 
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| Originally posted by R!CH life is and always has been about pain, stress, and discomfort. today you stress about your bills, decades ago people stressed about nuclear winter, hundreds of years ago people stressed about infectious disease, thousands of years ago people stressed about lions eating them alive. our lives are no more stressful today than they were then, but somewhere along the line we've become less independent, less adaptable, less capable as individuals to affect our own circumstances. what has transpired is a systematic deconstruction of the individual's mental, social, and physical health through the multitude of cultural banes conditioned into modern society as norms. you're right that diet and exercise alone make an incomplete picture, but what's missing isn't psychiatric medicine, it's knowledge. there are proven techniques on how to manage and cope with stressors big and small by living mindfully of how you maintain your overall health. likely the stress in your life is a physiological response to a false sense of emergency and by learning to control your stress response, you can hone the knowledge it takes to manage the stress that arises under a healthy lifestyle that includes rigorous diet and exercise. not victim-blaming, self-reliance and self-empowerment. i recognize access to healthy food, exercise and the knowledge needed to properly cope with stress aren't equally accessible to people of different socioeconomic classes, but that is not an excuse to steer these people away from proper treatment, which should always begin with the most simple, basic and effective methods first. how are drugs and therapy going to help someone who is sedentary, malnourished, socially isolated, and oblivious to the impact of that lifestyle on his mood? before referring anyone to professionals, people should be given the tools to help themselves first. the tools are these fundamentals that so many people in this country are totally ignorant of. furthermore, what a prescription drug does to one's psyche is places an external locus of control over their circumstances, telling him he is incapable of overcoming such obstacles on his own and shouldn't even bother trying. |
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| Originally posted by Lira REACH FOR THE DEATH LASERS!!! It's hard to make such a happy genre sound evil. I think I failed  |
That's awesome
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| Originally posted by jennypie Who said anything about drugs? I'm merely pointing out your poor grasp of the issue. |
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| Originally posted by nchs09 Somehow, he managed to discard years of research..... just with his intuition lol. |
shame, 3 years of junior college and all you have to talk about is your 3 years of junior college
Lol, junior college? I'm in the top of my class in a 4 year special honours baccalaureate program at the 3rd largest university in Canada, idiot. Pretty sure I know what the fuck I'm talking about.
i bet you just came all over yourself typing that out then reading it back to yourself, didn't you? makes it all the more sad that with whatever the fuck that education of yours is worth, all you can talk about how much better it makes your opinion than everyone else's. if only that school could teach you how to communicate ideas clearly rather than condescendingly touting meaningless credentials to people who couldn't care less. you are so full of yourself you even typed out baccalaureate
Loll.. must...... resist.. the urrrrrrrrrge.. to make comments!
Oh yeah, my bf has a bigger dick than you and my dad can beat up your dad.
Don't be mad that only one of us is talking out of their ass. 
Faggot.
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| Originally posted by jennypie Oh yeah, my bf has a bigger dick than you and my dad can beat up your dad. Don't be mad that only one of us is talking out of their ass. Faggot. |
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| Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I hate to bring up DA again, and the last thing I want to incite is regret, because he made his own decisions and ultimately made the ultimate personal choice with his life, and that should be respected, but who knows if things could have been different had he talked to people about his depression? Who knows if he'd sought help because a large community of people urged him to do so? None of us can say for certain, but if he was *your* friend, you'd definitely agree that even the slightest chance was worth it, please realize this. |
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| Originally posted by Omega_Blue first of all, i have no problem with a thread discussing depression/suicide/whatever, as it can most definitely help with people who may be coping with a similar situation in their own lives. however, i still think this is a petty cry for attention but i don't feel like getting into a heated argument in c0r about it. if he tried killing himself before, he would've already gotten help for depression/suicide after he slept his way into a hospital 7 years ago. you don't ask the c0r for help about depression if you're in his shoes; you ask your counselor/psychiatrist/doctor who helped you 7 years ago when you tried to "sleepinal" yourself to death. you ask the c0r when you're craving attention from strangers. this thread, and the one 7 years ago, reeks of stinky attention-whorage, and the OP's behavior on the forums throughout the years gives me no reason to believe otherwise. and furthermore, do you know how hard it is to overdose from diphenhydramine? my old roommate used to eat a half a box of them or more to trip. you're not taking your suicide seriously if you're attempting to overdose on benadryl. |
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| Originally posted by MeLLyMeL Please refrain from talking about someone you clearly have NO CLUE about. Your post is off - way off. I prefer you talking about people in general then bringing up Raul as if you knew the slightest bit of info of what he was going through before he passed. |
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| Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On When people do not talk about things, there is confusion. Help us to understand, or don't. |
I've suffered from depression and had suicidal thoughts. Meditation and being in nature definitely helped me out.
Re: extreme depression
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| Originally posted by AnotherWay83 EDIT: thank you all for responding. dont know if any of you remember but years ago i tried 2 times to kill myself and ended up in the hospital both times, (only the old school peeps might remember, vivid boy might). since then i've been on anti-depressants and things got better, i guess the circumstances which were causing my depression didnt change, i had just learned to deal with it better. however now i think it's back =/ i've recently moved and things have been...up and down. the past few days were the worst, i would literally spend every single moment thinking and feeling like i'm in the worst hell imaginable. think of what its like to feel utterly lonely, completely lost, no one to talk to, feeling like nothing has any meaning or purpose, nothing can make you happy, and feeling that constantly in your mind, 24/7...thats how the last few days have been. i feel trapped as if i'm in some sort of prison with a life sentence all by myself on an island and just can't get out. it's really weird and hard to explain. i find that the more i think the worse i feel. my thoughts inevitably wander towards questions about life and meaning and all that deep shit i have no answers to, which just makes me feel that much more helpless. and thats the worst part...the helplessness to change my situation, to really change the way i feel. so today i decided that im just gonna shut off my mind...or at least spend as little time using it as possible. and i'm already feeling better  my mind is my worst enemy i think, and the less i use it the better i feel. so for now thats the plan im sticking to. im just gonna feel what i feel and not try and dwell too much on shit that happened in the past, recent or distant. and i think i'll be ok.thank you all |
Mindfulness is commonly defined as the state of being attentive to and aware of what is taking place in the present. Mindfulness is the process of cultivating appreciation for the fullness of each moment we are alive. It is present-moment awareness. When we are mindful, we are paying attention, on purpose, non-judgmentally. It is an acceptance of present-moment reality. It is the waking up to the fact that our lives unfold only in moments.
Jon Kabat-Zinn, founder and director of the Stress Reduction Clinic at the University of Massachusetts Medical Center, describes mindfulness as a conscious discipline that can be explained as the intentional cultivation of nonjudgmental moment-to-moment awareness. Mindfulness approaches are not considered relaxation techniques, but rather a form of mental training to reduce vulnerability to reactive modes of thinking that heighten stress and emotional distress. The result is that stress can be prevented through conscious living.
The focus of mindfulness is on the experience. Attitudinal qualities that facilitate mindfulness include the beginner's mind, non-judging, acceptance, non-attachment, and non-striving.
Rather than observing experiences through the filter of our beliefs, assumptions, expectations, and desires, the beginner's mind involves seeing things with an openess as if for the first time, without concern for "what if" and "if only".
The quality of non-judging represents detached observation. When we simply observe, without adding the mental analysis of the situation, we free ourselves to see things more accurately. We never can judge another person truly accurately. Because we cannot do this, we might as well release our need to judge. Non-judgment is the basis for accepting what is happening.
Acceptance is holistic and unconditional. Acceptance means we acknowledge experiences as they are. To bring our focus more into the present, we can simply turn off the mind chatter that is racing through our minds of what is not happening--about the future and past.
Non-attachment involves resisting the need to cling emotionally to anything--ideas, events, or periods of times to which we release our attachment.
Non-striving implies giving up our need to try to change anything. We simply give ourselves permission to allow this moment to be exactly as it is, and allow thing to be exactly as they are. For just a moment, we are no longer doing, we are just being.
When we live mindfully, focusing our attention on what is happening here and now, and allowing ourselves to be totally absorbed in the activity at hand, we become more effective and productive, whatever the task, be it skiing down a tricky ski slope or doing our best on a tough test. The extra mind chatter of future and past and the associated emotions of fear, worry, guilt and anger seem to diminish. As we do this, in as many moments as possible, we begin to understand that there is no other moment in time or point in space but that which is happening here and now.
Apart from those rare events of real danger, we live our present moments without any real threat or danger. The present moment usually involves no concern for stress. Stress occurs only when we allow our minds to think of things other than what is happening in our current experience. We focus our thoughts on potential future events, about the past, and about things that might be happening elsewhere. When we associate any kind of pain or discomfort with those thoughts of other times and places, we initiate the stress response as a natural reaction to the perception of false emergency. Mindfulness turns off the stress response and, as a result, facilitates relaxation, reduces stress hormones, and boosts the immune system.
Thought-stopping means stopping negative thoughts when they enter your stream of consciousness. When an unconstructive thought creeps into your mind, you can recognize your choice to think, and say "Stop!" In doing so, you replace the stress-producing, negative statement with a positive statement. Although this may take some practice, you actually can change the way you think.
Suppose you start to think, "I'll never be able to learn how to use this computer. I'm too old." Say, "Stop!" and replace the negative, stress-producing thought with, "I've learned difficult things before. I can do this." This simple technique works in part because it increases awareness. Consciously analyzing the thoughts that pass through your mind brings greater awareness to the messages those thoughts contain. Thought-stopping also brings an immediate end to negative messages and the resulting emotions that follow faulty thinking. The outcome of positive self-talk and thought-stopping is learned optimism. We have a choice about how we think. Optimism is a learned set of skills. Once learned, these skills persist because they feel so good to use.
dude, jenny will murder you
then she'll make a thread about it so everyone knows how pointless it is to challenge her perfect knowledge
therefore sending you into depression
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