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Originally posted by LKD simple...put it in my luggage.

Lol...

Night Liam...

in the new scene the bass is too mutherfuckin heavy and there ain't enough melody.

the 90s is unmatched in the sheer sickosity of beats. we need some more PLUR, some more good e, and more 1990s.

My first rave was in 95 with Sasha,Green Velvet and John Digweed....It was in an abandoned theatre...It was my introduction to LSD and I was only 13 yrs old.
There was a cover charge at the door but NO BODY PAID...NOW THATS WHAT I CALL A RAVE.

Im still hearing mixes from all those classic djs and they are still number one....

THEY SAY IF ITS TOO LOUD YOU ARE TOO FUCKIN OLD.
ITS JUST EVOLUTION.

P.S NOW I DONT THINK ANY OF THOSE DJS WOULD PLAY IN A ABANDONED THEATRE

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Originally posted by The Ear Times have changed and will continue to change. But for fuck sakes! I've had it with the glut of generic tech house that seems to be attempting to rape my ears with its repetitive droning of late. Can I just get some semblance of melody and composition brought back to the dance floor?

Thats one of the reasons I dont go out as much anymore. Although the djs we have are very talented its basically the same music (tech house) over and over at the same clubs every week.

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Originally posted by Brennen Thats one of the reasons I dont go out as much anymore. Although the djs we have are very talented its basically the same music (tech house) over and over at the same clubs every week.

you got to get out to diff parties.
there's a real resurgence in musical house over the past couple years.
get out there, enjoy it!

Love these threads.

Im all about the plur. I despise the pretentiousness of the 'club'....fuck even the fact that its called a 'club' is pretentious.

Having read this entire thread..or at least the relevant bits.. I gotta say. If youre after the rave mentality, support your outdoor festivals.

It seems like these are the only places where government regulations (capacities, drinking rules, closing time etc.) and commercialism havent had much influence.

Toronto as we all know regulates for sake of regulating.. so there is no chance of getting those 15000 person warehouses packed with ravers. One person will die of heat stroke due to not drinking enough and raves will be banned again.

Ive gone to a few WEMFs which were good with the exception of 16-17year olds who cant handle their drugs and the commercial aspect. More recently,i went to Eclipse in Quebec.

Eclipse embodies pure PLUR. No attitude, open minds and DJ's who do their legwork, instead of scraping the top 100 beatport charts.

this is where the plur lives on...

I remember when you bought a ticket for a Nitrous party, it came with a hit of acid

Nitrous, Pleasure Force & Better Days were the serious parties in that era.

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Originally posted by feelgood Eclipse embodies pure PLUR. No attitude, open minds and DJ's who do their legwork, instead of scraping the top 100 beatport charts. this is where the plur lives on...

100% agreed wit this. Eclipse is very special and we are lucky to have such an event. Cant wait till 2012.

Here's the thing. There's a shit load of good music out there, BUT, most DJ's are ego maniacs that prefer to a; play their own crappy music and b; get trashed. So it seems that DJ's would rather make it about them (and their posse) than take the time to figure out what the crowd wants/needs to shake it, and (the big one) treat DJing like a real fucking job.

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Originally posted by ohmeohmymel Here's the thing. There's a shit load of good music out there, BUT, most DJ's are ego maniacs that prefer to a; play their own crappy music and b; get trashed. So it seems that DJ's would rather make it about them (and their posse) than take the time to figure out what the crowd wants/needs to shake it, and (the big one) treat DJing like a real fucking job.

huh?

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Originally posted by ohmeohmymel Here's the thing. There's a shit load of good music out there, BUT, most DJ's are ego maniacs that prefer to a; play their own crappy music and b; get trashed. So it seems that DJ's would rather make it about them (and their posse) than take the time to figure out what the crowd wants/needs to shake it, and (the big one) treat DJing like a real fucking job.

Um for me I'd say it's the complete and polar opposite of this.

Instead of a dj playing true to what made them a dj and their sound AND at the same time pleasing the crowd, which creates for a happy medium. Many djs nowadays just play what the crowd wants to hear because they are lazy and it's easier to just drop anthem after anthem than create a decent set/vibe at a party.

Tons of great points shared here. IMO it is about personal experience. It's not that the scene sucks; just it has become such a molested version of itself. AND NOT THE GOOD KIND...BAD KIND. THINK UNCLE AND CHILDHOOD

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Originally posted by Endlesswave Instead of a dj playing true to what made them a dj and their sound AND at the same time pleasing the crowd, which creates for a happy medium. Many djs nowadays just play what the crowd wants to hear because they are lazy and it's easier to just drop anthem after anthem than create a decent set/vibe at a party.

Agree totally with this. Also, people are relatively impatient (the general crowd) so very rarely is it (as a whole) satisfied with something that builds and has melody or something you can appreciate in each beat. Personally, the 2000-2005 trance (and even some of the stuff produced later but never played) was and is my favourite. As for DJs, guys like Menno, Rank1 and Ronski Speed, at least when I've seen them seem to stick to the "old" days. That's strictly talking about trance. At least in Toronto there is still access to that and enough people who want to listen to it. Not much once you leave downtown and outwards into the GTA and beyond. I'm ok with anthems btw, there just aren't any REAL ones the way there used to be (i.e. almost every other track is an "anthem"). I dunno whether Vola is packed all the time, but it seems to attract the right artists. Hopefully there's a new generation of trance (and other EDM genres) addicts that allow the older type of sounds to be popular still. Otherwise, it's just "electro" til your ears bleed.

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