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Originally posted by Ishkur Hakim Bey, dude.

http://libcom.org/library/leaving-o...-part-hakim-bey

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Originally posted by Tasty Onions http://libcom.org/library/leaving-o...-part-hakim-bey

Yuck, thanks.

That is probably a more elaborate way of saying 'i like to touch little boys' peepees' than i could ever have imagined.

Oh well, I have Ted Kaczynski's book too.

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Originally posted by nefardec I was just reacting to your use of "archaic revival".

(and yes, Tasty, I'm well aware of that. It's rather irrelevant to what we're talking about, though)

Kaczynski's writings are kind of interesting, yes.

Just saying, might want to be aware of the whole picture.

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The other problem you have, aside from crippling stupidity and incredible naivity, is that you're still locked in an outdated model of how the music industry works.

It is ishkur who is living in the past. He needs to update his propaganda doctrine for this decade. He came here suggesting that djs only exist to promote their labels tracks and that we should avoid those ''promo-whores'' that only exist to ''spam their tracks to sell them!''

However!
A. Record sales are a pimple on the ass of a tick on the ass of an elephant compared to those djs whole income. Since actual profits are shit, If anything, this would suggest that they would spin more music they simply like but are not affiliated with. It doesn't have to a whole set of just their tracks so they can fit as many of them in a set as they can, promote them out and presumably sell them and make money (boogie boogie boogie they would be so evil and not cool to do that)
In other words big fucking whoop! Record sales are shit the quality of their sets would be more important to those ''sly'' Djs!
B. When called out on it he chose ignore it 3 times. (I am not going to lie he is a bit smarter than you)
C. You then made it a point to let me know which Djs Ishkur was talking about! The ones that break the big tracks!
D. Again I told you that it is 2011 not too many dance Djs are breaking tracks these days. Not unless they have some sort of major label support.
E. And then I took the chance to tell you that the independent scene was pushed out the way and that independent artists do not stand a chance as there is no viable business for them model anymore! Like John Fleming did with his post.
F. You then told me that the internet is here and people can use it to promote their tracks like Armin Van Buuren does (who is also on satellite radio lol)
G. I then offered you the rebuttal like yeah right these tracks will earn independent artists Dj gigs with out any affiliations....
H. You told me that you do need connections to make it these days and the playing field is not so level after all because ''we are talking about people with affiliations dumbass'' of course the people without any affiliations can't make it!

I mean... I could talk with you all day.

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Originally posted by TheoneIgiveall

You have a knack for being unintentionally funny while completely bleaching your post of any humorous content.

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Originally posted by TheoneIgiveall H. You told me that you do need connections to make it these days and the playing field is not so level after all because ''we are talking about people with affiliations dumbass'' of course the people without any affiliations can't make it!

ERROR.

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Originally posted by Ishkur I want to liberate all kopyrights in the name of Mu. For $35 each ($50 at the door). What you stand for is consumerism. The avowed mandate of the consumer is to be a (often mindless) devourer of the means of production. Your role is to swallow culture, not create it. To be a spectator of your own life, not a participant. Consumerism is a culture of passivity, of under-achievement, of purchasing the hollow shell of the ideal lifestyle (As Seen on TV), not working towards achieving it. Where every flavour of creativity, ambition, originality and diversity is mashed into the omnipresent control of market uniformity. You are a slave to the dollar value. Your personality is defined not as who you are or what you do or even what you can achieve, but by what you can acquire, what you can accumulate, what you can possess. You rely on things to define you. You rely on others to think for you. Ultimately, within our lifetimes, this will make the domain of free thought, free expression and free will literally impossible. Not through force, as totalitarian regimes have done in the past, but through applied docility, through conscious negligence -- the populace will do it willfully, discarding it as deftly as taking out the garbage and treating it as such. Consumerism is akin to avoiding someone murdering you by committing suicide. You are the death sigil of everything that's good, pure, and honest with every underground scene. And we don't need you. If you are paying for it, it is not a scene. You cannot purchase culture.

Back to you ish!

You are a modern Day Steve Dahl You hate the dance scene and what it stands for! You always did. Thanks to the stupidity of System-J it was a bit easier for me to expose you than I thought it would be. The advice you offer people here is absolutely laughable to any person with a hint of a brain. Worthless would be an understatement. You post here to try to cheat people out of their common sense but now in 2011 not too many people are drinking the purple Juice anymore. Like guys if you want to throw a classics night don't play any popular tracks people know! That is the key to the success of a good classics night! And no beegees on a disco night! Definately no beegees! Oh I always hated the fucking beegees! They were so polpulars I don't likes it! Oh and if you guys are running record labels the best advice I could give you is to not play your labels tracks! Tell the artists on your label sorry guys when I spin out I do not like to play the labels tracks! Those tracks are for the underground crate-diggers of the record stores that don't exist anymore! Definitely don't play your friends tracks either! Who knows they might not return the favor! Mo powa to me Steve Dahl hi hi! You definitely don't want people to think you are a mindless consumer a devourer of production mashing culture into an ''omnipresent control of market uniformity'' do you? nah you want to be a cultivator of culture, a stochastic libarator and keep it real like Z-trip and spin rap music on the David Letterman show!

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Originally posted by TheoneIgiveall He came here suggesting that djs only exist to promote their labels tracks and that we should avoid those ''promo-whores'' that only exist to ''spam their tracks to sell them!''

Can you find me a single recent setlist from any of these DJs where this is not the case?

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Originally posted by TheoneIgiveall Back to you ish! You are a modern Day Steve Dahl You hate the dance scene and what it stands for! You always did. Thanks to the stupidity of System-J it was a bit easier for me to expose you than I thought it would be. The advice you offer people here is absolutely laughable to any person with a hint of a brain. Worthless would be an understatement. You post here to try to cheat people out of their common sense but now in 2011 not too many people are drinking the purple Juice anymore. Like guys if you want to throw a classics night don't play any popular tracks people know! That is the key to the success of a good classics night! And no beegees on a disco night! Definately no beegees! Oh I always hated the fucking beegees! They were so polpulars I don't likes it! Oh and if you guys are running record labels the best advice I could give you is to not play your labels tracks! Tell the artists on your label sorry guys when I spin out I do not like to play the labels tracks! Those tracks are for the underground crate-diggers on the record stores that don't exist anymore! Definitely don't play your friends tracks either! Who knows they might not return the favor! Mo powa to me Steve Dahl hi hi! You definitely don't want people to think you are a mindless consumer a devourer of production mashing culture into and ''omnipresent control of market uniformity'' do you? nah you want to be a cultivator of culture, a stochastic libarator and keep it real like Z-trip and spin rap music on the David Letterman show!

I'm failing to see how your unflinching obduracy exposes much of anything if it's not your unflinching stupidity coupled with your unflinching insistence on being unfunny, unreadable, and unlikeable.

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Originally posted by TheoneIgiveall You are a modern Day Steve Dahl

To be perfectly fair, Steve Dahl did disco music a favor.

Disco, once a vibrant, energetic movement championed by the black and gay underground, had been smoothed-out, polished, and distilled into flakey, feather-lite pap. It was poppified into something milquetoast and lame, perfect for grandmothers and 8-year olds.

It needed to die, so the underground could reclaim it. The best disco music came out after the crash.

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Originally posted by Ishkur To be perfectly fair, Steve Dahl did disco music a favor. Disco, once a vibrant, energetic movement championed by the black and gay underground, had been smoothed-out, polished, and distilled into flakey, feather-lite pap. It was poppified into something milquetoast and lame, perfect for grandmothers and 8-year olds. It needed to die, so the underground could reclaim it. The best disco music came out after the crash.

agreed.

and it makes a great story.

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Originally posted by TheoneIgiveall It is ishkur who is living in the past. He needs to update his propaganda doctrine for this decade. He came here suggesting that djs only exist to promote their labels tracks and that we should avoid those ''promo-whores'' that only exist to ''spam their tracks to sell them!''

It's not about selling tracks for a couple dollars. It's about selling a brand for a lot more. The tracks are merely the keepsake and currency. The brands control their currency like the US Fed controls the dollar, protecting against counterfeiting, etc. It's called brand equity.

If you don't understand this, you are the one living in the past.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Can you find me a single recent setlist from any of these DJs where this is not the case?

Deadmau5. Definitely Deadmau5.

Although he does not front as a DJ but as solo chemical brothers/underworld type of studio act he did never the less catch some slack for what people in the dance world might consider as ''whoring your own tracks''' when he created an essential mix sequence consisting of nothing but his own productions! Like fuck you this is my radio time!
You might be temted to think this was indeed the case however this incorrect.

See Deadmau5, a dj at heart, is a true cultivator of blip culture! A cultivator of the infinite beat. The unresolved song. His original productions melt into cohesive, undending streams of music where everything becomes the now!

This music was tailor made by him, for him. His music. His life in the fast lane. His radio time. His bottom line. Short takes, quick cuts. The TV remote-control clicker. High stimulation. Locked biorhythm. Heartbeat. Laser. Plasma screen. Toilet seat, Washing machine. Pizza Oven!

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Originally posted by Ishkur I want to liberate all kopyrights in the name of Mu.

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Originally posted by TheoneIgiveall Deadmau5. Definitely Deadmau5.

Post it.

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Originally posted by TheoneIgiveall See Deadmau5, a dj at heart,

Joel Zimmerman is not a DJ, and he'd be the first to tell you that.

You want to liberate all kopyrights in the name of Mu eh? Kopyrights with a K too eh?
Shiiiiiiet! That is bad-ass!



*cues music*

On the day I was born
the nurses all gathered 'round
And they gazed in wide wonder
at the joy they had found
The head nurse spoke up
and she said leave this one alone
She could tell right away
that I was bad to the bone


Bad to the bone
Bad to the bone
B-B-B-B-Bad to the bone
B-B-B-B-Bad
B-B-B-B-Bad
Bad to the bone

I broke a thousand hearts, before I met you
I'll break a thousand more baby, before I am through
I wanna be yours pretty baby, yours and yours alone
I'm here to tell ya honey, that I'm bad to the bone
Bad to the bone
B-B-B-Bad
B-B-B-Bad
B-B-B-Bad
Bad to the bone

I make a rich woman beg, I'll make a good woman steal
I'll make an old woman blush, and make a young woman squeal
I wanna be yours pretty baby, yours and yours alone
I'm here to tell ya honey, that I'm bad to the bone
B-B-B-B-Bad
B-B-B-B-Bad
B-B-B-B-Bad
Bad to the bone

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Originally posted by Ishkur Joel Zimmerman is not a DJ, and he'd be the first to tell you that.

No shit you don't say...

So where's that tracklist?

Tracklist as follows:

Stochastic Libarator
Locked biorhythm
Clandestine
Blip culture
Everything is the now
Lady gaga
The death sigil
The purple Juice
Underground disco
What time is luv?
Beegees
Saturday night Fever
Saturday Night Live
Short takes, quick cuts.
Frankie Knuckles
Frankie Bones
Frankie Wild
Frankie Goes to Hollywood
The TV remote-control clicker
Coffee Cream
Mustard

My dear, if you can't find any, simply admit your mistake and dutifully bow out of the thread.

No one will think lesser of you for it. Not that it's possible for anyone to think lesser of you at this point.

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Originally posted by Ishkur My dear, if you can't find any, simply admit your mistake and dutifully bow out of the thread. No one will think lesser of you for it. Not that it's possible for anyone to think lesser of you at this point.

Oh no see... these tracks are so underground that you can't just be a ''consumer''! You have to make a conscious effort to find them! And he has to make a conscious effort to produce them and release them too.
Only the true crate diggers digging the crates of the record stores that don't exist anymore will find those records steve!

You need medication, darlin'.

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Originally posted by enydo You need medication, darlin',

She wasn't always this bad was she? I mean, I remember it being bad, but this is just over the top nutjob mad.

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Originally posted by enydo You need medication, darlin'.

Nice try.

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