TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Music Discussion
-- Dj Mag Top 100 DJ Poll 2011 Awards / Results
Pages (7): « 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7 »

TA is a joke.

no u

quote:

Originally posted by GDILMhandsinair Not sure about the wranglings behind it all, but moving the old Armada night into "BE" at Space this year just didn't work. Saw Schulz there and he hardly dropped a trance record into his set, very tech-orientated.

It certainly drew the crowds though. I went to see the night in August with Schultz and Emery playing b2b for 6 hours. Hardly a trance track in site, as you say. I wouldnt say it was tech orientated (I wish!), it was like a fizzy, high octaine electro fest imo.

I just dont think Schulz is doing much for the trance scene at present and hasnt for 18 months. I get the feeling that him, the rest of the Armada crowd, Emery and others are like rats deserting the trance ship which is unfortunate.

quote:

Originally posted by Bierheld Either someone who happened to have stumbled on TA at this exact time but is nevertheless interested in being a member of this community, or a promoter/bot employed by Armada to scour the internet for polls in which to spam their artists. Or a blind fanboy who does the same for no gain other then their own interests. Whatever those may be.

Interesting take on things. I notice you arent alone in your concerns about the number of October 2011 registrations. Not sure if its coincidence or some of you Vets are suffering from paranoia. Id have thought promoters would have joined before the Djmag vote. As you say, they could be here to discredit the result though I guess.

For the record, Im a lurker of around 10 years (probably alot longer) and actually joined as im beginning to get disillusioned with the scene and wanted to know if there is still any good hypnotic trance out there that Im missing. Most 'traditional' trance djs are leaving me cold at present and I dont even think you could stick the trance label to most of the big guns at present.

quote:

Originally posted by Lotherton Hall It certainly drew the crowds though. I went to see the night in August with Schultz and Emery playing b2b for 6 hours. Hardly a trance track in site, as you say. I wouldnt say it was tech orientated (I wish!), it was like a fizzy, high octaine electro fest imo. I just dont think Schulz is doing much for the trance scene at present and hasnt for 18 months. I get the feeling that him, the rest of the Armada crowd, Emery and others are like rats deserting the trance ship which is unfortunate.

Anybody that follows Schulz closely could have seen this coming. With all the fluffy vocal stuff that has come out in the last 18 months that he has went publicly on record about not being fond of, and the mission to focus on the clubs in the last year, his direction has not surprised me in the least. I think the biggest surprise though are the amazing mash-ups he has done this past year that succesfully fuses techno and trance. The mash-up he did called Universal Hypercombo which is never released. Taken from Push - Universal Nation and the bassline from Sasha Carassi - Hypercombo was insane and I am hoping he does more things like that instead of the farty bass electro stuff.

As I said many times before, I'm big fan of Schulz (productions & sets), but the guy started to suck heavily around mid-2010! He still tries to play some good underground stuff but unfortunately thats only 10-15% of his sets nowdays, the rest is noisy fiupiu garbage, which the new coldharbour 'army' thinks is the best music in the world.
So yes, Schulz has gone downhill, I don't know, maybe he wants more & more commercial gigs, he should answer. One thing is for sure - he's not the DJ he used to be and 2011 was his worst year.

quote:

Originally posted by Durrrtysouth Anybody that follows Schulz closely could have seen this coming. With all the fluffy vocal stuff that has come out in the last 18 months that he has went publicly on record about not being fond of, and the mission to focus on the clubs in the last year, his direction has not surprised me in the least. I think the biggest surprise though are the amazing mash-ups he has done this past year that succesfully fuses techno and trance. The mash-up he did called Universal Hypercombo which is never released. Taken from Push - Universal Nation and the bassline from Sasha Carassi - Hypercombo was insane and I am hoping he does more things like that instead of the farty bass electro stuff.

Are you saying that he wasnt fond of the proggy stuff he was doing or the electro orietated stuff that he's doing now?

quote:

Originally posted by Durrrtysouth Anybody that follows Schulz closely could have seen this coming. With all the fluffy vocal stuff that has come out in the last 18 months that he has went publicly on record about not being fond of, and the mission to focus on the clubs in the last year, his direction has not surprised me in the least. I think the biggest surprise though are the amazing mash-ups he has done this past year that succesfully fuses techno and trance. The mash-up he did called Universal Hypercombo which is never released. Taken from Push - Universal Nation and the bassline from Sasha Carassi - Hypercombo was insane and I am hoping he does more things like that instead of the farty bass electro stuff.

lethal traversing is amazing too, so is paranoize rapture.

those that have a problem with what he's playing, you did it to yourself by adding fuel to the 'where trance went wrong' video fire. he took offense to that and changed up his style. but hey this is TA, you can never seem to please.

i personally don't have a problem with what he's playing, ya there are electro/house in there, but there are still progressive/techno tunes he's playing, like such.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r450NiETOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN-gT6E7xVw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP9sJFAdqoc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9qQRUfBRRs

and i don't understand how anybody would have problems with caress 2 impress (msbrr), beat service outsider, in a green valley,angular momentum, etc.

I thought Dakota "Thoughts Become Things II" Album was really good. I can't see any reason to bash on Markus, one of, if not the best trance DJ/Producer combos there is. Especially among the more popular DJ/Producers.

quote:

Originally posted by Lotherton Hall For the record, Im a lurker of around 10 years (probably alot longer)

quote:

Originally posted by modthispny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r450NiETOw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN-gT6E7xVw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP9sJFAdqoc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9qQRUfBRRs

Decent enough tracks, I cannot deny. A whole night of them, tho', would probably grate for the same reason most trance DJs do: constant stop-start breakdowns/builds, ruining any sense of flow. Is there a whole set of his playing this stuff out there?

quote:

Originally posted by modthispny lethal traversing is amazing too, so is paranoize rapture. those that have a problem with what he's playing, you did it to yourself by adding fuel to the 'where trance went wrong' video fire. he took offense to that and changed up his style. but hey this is TA, you can never seem to please. i personally don't have a problem with what he's playing, ya there are electro/house in there, but there are still progressive/techno tunes he's playing, like such. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r450NiETOw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN-gT6E7xVw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP9sJFAdqoc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9qQRUfBRRs and i don't understand how anybody would have problems with caress 2 impress (msbrr), beat service outsider, in a green valley,angular momentum, etc.

I have heard some of those ID's at Space, They are amazing to hear on a proper sound system.

I think that may be the issue some people have, these tracks really come to life in the clubs and hearing them on your computer does not do it justice.


Video #4 is

quote:

Originally posted by Lotherton Hall It certainly drew the crowds though. I went to see the night in August with Schultz and Emery playing b2b for 6 hours. Hardly a trance track in site, as you say. I wouldnt say it was tech orientated (I wish!), it was like a fizzy, high octaine electro fest imo. I just dont think Schulz is doing much for the trance scene at present and hasnt for 18 months. I get the feeling that him, the rest of the Armada crowd, Emery and others are like rats deserting the trance ship which is unfortunate.

We were at the same night then! Should have tried Gatecrasher at Privilege instead

quote:

Originally posted by GDILMhandsinair We were at the same night then! Should have tried Gatecrasher at Privilege instead

Haha, very true. Was saying that to my wife at the time. Strangely, we went to Full on Ferry at Sankeys the night before and saw Richard Durand in their who was 'Crasher's 'special guest' the folowing night. He was going about completely unrecognised, saw me make eye contact and we couldnt get rid of him for half an hour! Nice guy though and nice that he still goes out when off duty and talks to punters. I must say that SvD was a pleasant surprise that night.

Going back to your point re. Be @ Space, I think Corsten has suffered from over exposure in Ibiza this year with a weekly residency then regular gigs at Cream and JS - I wonder if Space maybe more suited to an exclusive residency from him? However, Im pretty certain Armada etal will be back at Space next year. Whatever we may think they seem to pull in the crowds but for how long? I remember djs like Tall Paul and Seb Fontaine start to move away from the style that made them famous and they went from djmag top 10 to outside the 100 within three years. Its a fine balance for a dj to remain fresh and relevant and still maintain their core fan base.

quote:

Originally posted by Lotherton Hall I remember djs like Tall Paul and Seb Fontaine start to move away from the style that made them famous and they went from djmag top 10 to outside the 100 within three years. Its a fine balance for a dj to remain fresh and relevant and still maintain their core fan base.

To be fair, a lot of older jocks lose positions in the poll because their older fans stop voting for them for various reasons (move onto other styles of music, move on from clubbing, move on from voting in popularity contests ).

quote:

Originally posted by Sykonee To be fair, a lot of older jocks lose positions in the poll because their older fans stop voting for them for various reasons (move onto other styles of music, move on from clubbing, move on from voting in popularity contests ).

This is true. But alot of older djs maintain their position in the top 100 too. Clearly all djs need to evolve their sound overtime. However, history suggests that radical genre jumping does not lead to medium or long term success. It just smacks of rats and sinking ships. Particularly annoying when your favourite djs do it and leave a massive void.

Random shot in the dark here, but do any of you live in Denver? If so, did you see Paul Van Dyk at Beta this year or GDF last year?

If it the poll were based on skill of the DJ and not popularity, there is no doubt in my mind that he would make the number one spot. I've seen most of the people in the top 30 and not one compares to the energy that guy brings.

And for those who are saying about trance DJ's not keeping to their style, do you think PVD has changed? I would definitely say that he has stayed genuine

quote:

Originally posted by Bimbley Random shot in the dark here, but do any of you live in Denver? If so, did you see Paul Van Dyk at Beta this year or GDF last year? If it the poll were based on skill of the DJ and not popularity, there is no doubt in my mind that he would make the number one spot. I've seen most of the people in the top 30 and not one compares to the energy that guy brings. And for those who are saying about trance DJ's not keeping to their style, do you think PVD has changed? I would definitely say that he has stayed genuine

His sound has evolved but he has largely remained true to the scene when he plays out. Agree, technically he is very good, in fact i think he has got better over the years with the introduction of live synths and remixing in his sets. His club sound certainly has energy too still, although he isnt really a showman and rarely interacts with the crowd. The one area he has not been as successful in is developing his brand and the Vandit enterprise. Armada win hands down in this respect, as did Pefecto in the 90's and early 000's (just as Oakie turned to crap). I dont think he really capitalised on being number 1 in the dj poll as others have. But maybe he didnt want to.

Did John 00 try to rush the poll only to be shut out completely? I can't recall whether that was this year or last that he sent that note out...

No man he doesn't want anyone to vote for him because these lists are too commercial and not good for the SCENE man

quote:

Originally posted by basilisk Did John 00 try to rush the poll only to be shut out completely? I can't recall whether that was this year or last that he sent that note out...

john fleming is the only dj I can think of whos spoken honestly about what a joke the top 100 is although there were a lot more djs commenting on it this year. I hope that even more speak out.

quote:

Originally posted by Lotherton Hall His sound has evolved but he has largely remained true to the scene when he plays out. Agree, technically he is very good, in fact i think he has got better over the years with the introduction of live synths and remixing in his sets. His club sound certainly has energy too still, although he isnt really a showman and rarely interacts with the crowd. The one area he has not been as successful in is developing his brand and the Vandit enterprise. Armada win hands down in this respect, as did Pefecto in the 90's and early 000's (just as Oakie turned to crap). I dont think he really capitalised on being number 1 in the dj poll as others have. But maybe he didnt want to.

That makes sense. If I'm not mistaken didn't Vandit recently merge with Armada? Either way I hope his new album is successful. Would love to see him continue his amazing career haha

Which DJ impressed you most live?

quote:

Originally posted by freakster john fleming is the only dj I can think of whos spoken honestly about what a joke the top 100 is although there were a lot more djs commenting on it this year. I hope that even more speak out.

Yes but he's still continuing driving that awfully shitty psy-trance crap

quote:

Originally posted by dj christian Yes but he's still continuing driving that awfully shitty psy-trance crap

we get it, you don't like psy-trance.

quote:

Originally posted by freakster john fleming is the only dj I can think of whos spoken honestly about what a joke the top 100 is although there were a lot more djs commenting on it this year. I hope that even more speak out.

In that case he doesn't understand that it just shows popularity of DJ's, nothing more nothing less IMO.
You could discuss if it is representable.

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.