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Oh so just because it's legal because the administration says so means that it's right?

Oh ok. Got it.

The administration? Try reading up on FISA before you make completely ignorant comments.

Transparency for 100, Alex.

http://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsro...urveillance-act

Seriously. Read.

Do you seriously expect that the government be completely transparent with its intelligence gathering methods? You honestly believe that? Like you're not joking?

Arguing about it on here is futile. Especially with you Rusty, because you just go and go and go and go and go and go and go. And it goes no where.

I'm going to reserve my comments for a face-to-face conversation to be had later this evening over a beer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6HhDRaksYM

Oh, and that link doesn't work.

Well you want to be a journalist. Nevermind, of course you think that.

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp my humble $0.02 for amurica... if you dont like big brother feeling the need to act like your overprotective mother in the name of "national security" stop pissing in everyone's pool around the globe.... Maybe, just maybe, if your gov didn't act like such ignorant cocks when it comes to international affairs and other things such as... oh i dont know.... assassinating people in foreign lands with drones..... they may be less inclined to try and blow you up?

Agree with you but what can the average citizen do but vote for the lesser evil?

By the way I know you were just speaking in general terms.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 How the fuck is he a hero? By EXPOSING something that's COMPLETELY LEGAL?

If the government is doing it, it must be legal. I like your reasoning.

Jog along you fuck. This thread is for patriots.

PATRIOTS

IF A COURT APPROVED IT, IT MUST BE ILLEGAL. WAIT

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Nobody is actually listening in on your phone calls. The government does not care about the perverted shit you say to your girlfriend or where you get your weed from. They do not have time to listen in on your conversations. The enormous volumes of traffic they are monitoring are far too great. Your privacy is basically worthless, because nobody cares about your life in the first place. As for the subject of voting, I consider it a complete and utter myth that it would make any difference to the introduction of such policies. This kind of thing will happen and continues to happen no matter which party or politician ends up in power, and there are far too many flaws on just about every level of the democratic system for good political policy to actually be consistently rewarded. The only merit voting has is to sustain the overall structure of democracy, whereby leaders must at least affect a pretext of caring for their people if they want to prolong their personal spasm of power. So don't worry about taking responsibility for anything, because you have no real influence anyway.

Couldn't have said it better.

Snowden is an idiot, Greenwald is an idiot, this whole thing is bullshit.

A good article on how the story has changed considerably from the first mentions:

http://www.zdnet.com/the-real-story...ism-7000016570/



Interesting tidbit:

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/...lman-92505.html

Greenwald claims he's been working with Snowden since February. Snowden get the job with BAH in March.



There is no scary story here - this guy is no hero.

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Originally posted by Desiderata Agree with you but what can the average citizen do but vote for the lesser evil? By the way I know you were just speaking in general terms.

The average person is FOR drone strikes and American government interfering overseas. So really the people in the states get whatever they deserve. With the federal government becoming more concerned about issues overseas and domestic government becoming more concerned about ripping private wealth off its citizens. Eventually things will come to a point it cannot continue anymore.

That reporter sounds like an idiot who "broke" a story that wasn't really a story for no reason and is now throwing hissy fits at anyone who questions the authenticity of it.

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange

Your understanding of the world is infantile. this is why grownups formulate policy and the great un-washed mill about doing sweet fuck all and influencing nobody.

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Originally posted by SherlockCrash Spacey Orange, you should know better then to question things. That makes you retarded. If you don't want to be retarded any longer, just accept everything that's happening around you without giving it a second thought. You will then be all knowing and can tell other, still retarded people on forums how stupid they are when they can't see the obvious; Secretly collecting information isn't the same thing as spying.

you have deep-seated intellectual, emotional and/or psychological issues. seek professional help and stop wasting time with paranoid nonsense. ie grow the fuck up dickhead.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Your understanding of the world is infantile. this is why grownups formulate policy and the great un-washed mill about doing sweet fuck all and influencing nobody.

that is rich, coming from someone who spends countless hours playing video games.

SICK burn

+1000 for Espacio Naranja

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange that is rich, coming from someone who spends countless hours playing video games.

fuck you�re dumb

IM not the one crying a river over the evils of the world and how I wish everything was different and sunshine and rainbows (whilst displaying a distinct lack of experience, knowledge and expertise over said evils). I on the other hand have a reasonable grasp of various issues because im a not an inbred imbecile. this is despite the ridiculous amount of hours I waste playing videogames.

so, basically for your comment to be relevant you would need me to
a) cry a river over stupid things
b) have absolutely no clue; and
c) rally against The Man on tranceaddict.

hence your retort is stupid and you should feel bad.

or

d) cast haste

Jews are responsible for this whole mess and are pulling the strings.

Shady Companies With Ties to Israel Wiretap the U.S. for the NSA
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/20...-companies-nsa/

"Investigators within the DEA, INS and FBI have all told Fox News that to pursue or even suggest Israeli spying ... is considered career suicide."

-- Carl Cameron, as quoted in "The Spies Who Came In From The Art Sale"

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa...i-spy-ring_news


U.S. Jewish NGOs to get 97% of Homeland Security's defense grant in 2012
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world...8373?block=true
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/islam...ewish-orgs.html

What was the Israeli involvement in collecting U.S. communications intel for NSA?
http://www.councilforthenationalint...s-intel-for-nsa

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...nse_728765.html

^^00:43...priceless, only in America.

Elections of 2012 ... Community Organizer good, Wealthy Entrepreneur Bad.


I would also like to use this post to say Diane Feinstein is an abhorrent wench that needs to die in her own vomit.



live long and prosper.

Apparently Russia is sympathetic to Mr. Snowden's cause:

http://rt.com/news/russia-consider-asylum-snowden-517/

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