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Posted by Snipey on May-08-2003 18:59:

in what way does VINYL improve the sound? I always thought it was an outdated media with lots of flaws..


Posted by Nabistai on May-08-2003 20:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Snipey
in what way does VINYL improve the sound? I always thought it was an outdated media with lots of flaws..


It doesn't. Technically it's impossibly to recognize if a song is being played by cd or vinyl.


Posted by Tiger777 on May-09-2003 21:34:

The only problem there is, is that a vinyl starts to sound worse after a while. The sleeves get damaged by the needle scratching on the vinyl.
It is an outdated medium, but it is still the best one to actually FEEL/SEE the music.
There is no audio difference 'cuz of the RIAA correction.


Posted by Ultraphu on May-12-2003 04:31:

My boss is going to buy me a setup for a gift, but I can't decide which to go with, CDJ's or Turntables.

My question is this, for someone who will casually learn how to mix and is just starting out, which should I go with? I don't have any plans to be playing inside any clubs anytime soon...


Posted by Tiger777 on May-17-2003 11:35:

vinyl = harder but more fun, expensive media
Cd = More expensive in players, but cheaper media.


Posted by Ghostface on May-18-2003 05:27:

I've got two cdj100s and a 1200MK2. Once you know how to beatmatch, its a skill thats transferable to both. Once I get a better PC though, I'll be uploading the vinyl to CDR and preserving it.


Posted by Ghostface on May-18-2003 05:27:

vinyl is def more fun though


Posted by zan on May-18-2003 06:55:

ive been spinning cds for 3 yrs now and i love it.


Posted by incyde on May-28-2003 04:19:

okay

i'm planning to get DJ equipment very soon and i've been trying to decide CD or vinyl.

i'm going to be practicing how to beatmatch and basically learning how to mix since i've never done it before. the way i figure is vinyls are for later, once you have a lot of skill and a lot of money. i have neither skill nor money to buy vinyl after vinyl (and afford replacing them after they get scratched or melted).

so i'm going to get CD turntables to start out with and learn and have fun, then if i ever get really serious and get some more income, then i can go get a pair of turntables and use both.

thank you everyone for helping me decide, i read a lot of this thread.


Posted by djshawnb on Jun-04-2003 15:45:

cd's cd's and cd's only

i just love cd's, used to play vinyl but i traded most of them for cd's. its new technology, but it doesnt matter if you play with cd or vinyl, its the same thing, just the formats are different, thats all.


Posted by Sjodalf on Jun-05-2003 15:58:

Re: okay

quote:
Originally posted by incyde
i'm planning to get DJ equipment very soon and i've been trying to decide CD or vinyl.

i'm going to be practicing how to beatmatch and basically learning how to mix since i've never done it before. the way i figure is vinyls are for later, once you have a lot of skill and a lot of money. i have neither skill nor money to buy vinyl after vinyl (and afford replacing them after they get scratched or melted).

so i'm going to get CD turntables to start out with and learn and have fun, then if i ever get really serious and get some more income, then i can go get a pair of turntables and use both.

thank you everyone for helping me decide, i read a lot of this thread.


you read my mind boy!
thinking about the same thing. Think I'm gonna start with CD-decks, and if I really wanna drag it even further I'm buying TT's later.
But it's also about price. Haven't afford to buy vinyls all the time, but maybe when I'm getting a real jobb and stuff.. then I can go over to spinning vinyl.

so wish me good luck guys!


Posted by KristineClub on Jun-16-2003 03:40:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGeek
^^^ i'd rather listen to a shit dj playing vinyl than good dj playing cdrs... why? because of respect.
I just saw Hybrid play Friday night and they used about 50% vinyl and 50% cdr. Are you telling me that you'd rather see some 14 year old kid with belt-driven tables who only found out what a turntable is last week than Hybrid????? Shut up, dude.


Posted by Mister_Michel on Jun-16-2003 12:08:

*quote:
Originally posted by TranceGeek
^^^ i'd rather listen to a shit dj playing vinyl than good dj playing cdrs... why? because of respect.
I just saw Hybrid play Friday night and they used about 50% vinyl and 50% cdr. Are you telling me that you'd rather see some 14 year old kid with belt-driven tables who only found out what a turntable is last week than Hybrid????? Shut up, dude*

That is indeed one of THE most stupid comments that I've ever heard on these board.

No wait, it definitely IS !


Posted by KristineClub on Jun-16-2003 19:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Mister_Michel
*quote:
Originally posted by TranceGeek
^^^ i'd rather listen to a shit dj playing vinyl than good dj playing cdrs... why? because of respect.
I just saw Hybrid play Friday night and they used about 50% vinyl and 50% cdr. Are you telling me that you'd rather see some 14 year old kid with belt-driven tables who only found out what a turntable is last week than Hybrid????? Shut up, dude*

That is indeed one of THE most stupid comments that I've ever heard on these board.

No wait, it definitely IS !

Ok, which part?? You have two people's quotes made to look like one. Please tell me that it's the geek who is an idiot.


Posted by Mister_Michel on Jun-16-2003 19:55:

quote:
Originally posted by KristineClub
Ok, which part?? You have two people's quotes made to look like one. Please tell me that it's the geek who is an idiot.


Yes I meant him I already thought my post was confusing, but I thought that the word 'indeed' would make it clear, appearantly not


Posted by J4883R on Jun-17-2003 11:07:

i was screaming "vinyl only" for so long, but now with tools like final scratch and the addition of quality cd decks to the market over the past few years.. the sky's the limit.

still, i'll choose analog over digital anyday.


Posted by Tiger777 on Jun-29-2003 15:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Mister_Michel
That is indeed one of THE most stupid comments that I've ever heard on these board.

No wait, it definitely IS !

Have to agree with you there... djeezes. It doesn't matter weather you play CDs or Vinyls, the only thing that matters is weather it sounds good or not...


Posted by Yan on Jul-08-2003 06:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Tiger777
Have to agree with you there... djeezes. It doesn't matter weather you play CDs or Vinyls, the only thing that matters is weather it sounds good or not...


Ditto, man. I spin them both..and it's just the music that counts. Although...money does play a big role in having the ability to own EITHER CD or Vinyl....jeez.


Posted by ChavezHype on Jul-08-2003 08:10:

the only thing i don't like about when people are discussing vinyl vs. cds is they go to the piracy issue. I'm not a fan of piracy, but when it comes down to it, when people say they want cd-decks they make it no secret the reason for getting them is for loading mp3s on their cds and playing them out (not to say i wouldn't). Just that, even for people that buy cd-decks make it seem that its alreadya given that they'll pirate music, since they say they can't afford vinyl. You CAN buy cd singles, there's plenty, maybe not as much as vinyl but its probably easier to find seeing as how in regular stores they sell them.
However i understand that starting out and not throwing money at vinyl is great since it may just be a thing on the side for some people. I think that cd decks are the future of the genres of mixing (trance/prog/techno all that stuff) seeing as how thats whats mainly done for djs for mixing. You can get precision mixing with cds, plus vinyl won't wear out - they're cds after all. When it comes to battle/hip hop its going to take alot of convincing over time, and it probably will never happen, seeing as how its lasted this long, even with the improved technology - people want to feel the vinyl under their fingers, understandable, but in no way necessary for the mixmaster dj - but more important for the scratcher.


Posted by RobVox on Jul-09-2003 12:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj-Steve
Ok, you pay for a vinyl record, but you pay the ISP you have to get that mp3 you want... You still have rights. And u r so *%@#$!#(%&* that you think that i proved your point! Re-read it and then come again to talk to me. I will ignore everything you say from now on in this thread because you know NOTHING about the stuff we are talking about!

Peace



The Hell??????? Is this comment for real????? "I pay for the 'internet' so piracy is legal for me?????


RobVox



www.robvox.com


Posted by Tiger777 on Jul-17-2003 20:06:

hmm... It made me think about something... When I buy a record of a particular song. And, the same night, I download the MP3 for own use, is that piracy? MY guess was no, 'cuz when I bought the record, I also bought the rights on that track for myself...


Posted by tdurden on Jul-18-2003 02:54:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ LIQUID
VINYL > * > cassette > 8-Track > CDs


FLAME FEST!!!


Me thinks "4-track", should be in there somewhere. There's probably not too many users in the forum that remember them, or even *heard* of 'em.


Posted by RaVeRSurGe on Jul-20-2003 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Shockwav
and this is why these threads should be stopped
because once again, it's turning into an argument
one is not better than the other
once again, it's like comparing apples to oranges
each has it's pros and cons
it's up to personal preference
let's just leave it at that

and as for the people starting these threads,
use that thing attached to your neck... your head
ultimately the decision to spin either cds or vinyl is up to you
no one can make that for you
research (i.e. use that search button people seem to ignore) and make a decision based on what you see
there is a whole internet out there, with loads of information
you can start with a good search engine and go from there


-totally agreed.


Posted by Dj Flesch on Jul-22-2003 00:47:

quote:
Originally posted by RaVeRSurGe
-totally agreed.


The arguement wasn't which is better for spinning, it was which is a better medium for music--at least it started out that way


Posted by _-MIl0 on Jul-25-2003 20:49:

Use both The ENd


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