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Posted by Christopher B on Feb-23-2003 21:30:

I am very happy to see this. I hope to see larger and more frequent anti-war demonstrations all throughout the US.

Posted by NFA on Feb-25-2003 19:08:

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Originally posted by Mental Exodus
CHILDREEN OF MASS MEDIA LISTEN UP!

This goes beyond BUSH,THE USA,Iraq, Iran, Sadam, terrorism and most other buzz words designed to throw u off thru the ancient art of mass misinformation. Minus TWO.
and they are OIL AND New World Gov

Oil is A non-renewable energy source, and what required a billion years to create 3.2 trillion barrels of useable oil has taken 110 years to reduce to 1.8 trillion barrels. The planet's oil supply is its economic lifeblood. As this diminishes, so does the economic system in which the world's people live. As the economic conditions erode, instability arises, and if left unchecked, chaos ensues.

GUESS WHAT WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE EAST FOR GUYZ!(PUTTING THE NWO ASIDE)
UNTIL WE CHANGE OVER TO SOME OTHER FORM OF POWER OIL IS THE ONLY MAJOR ONE. NOW GUESS WHAT MAJOR WORLD POWERS DO TO MAJOR WORLD SOURCES OF POWER THAT ARE DWINDELING????? THEY CONTROLL THEM FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS.

NOTE: people have said that in anywhere from 25 to 80 years thers going to be no more oil for earth at reasonable prices. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR AMERICA AND EUROPE? THE MOST ENGERY/POWER HUNGRY NATIONS WHO CREATE MOST OF THE WORLDS GARBAGE????.

WE GO WHERE THE OIL IS UNTIL WE CAN USE SOMETHING ELSE.

yes. wars these days r fought 4 oil. the next stage will b war 4 water. and little is done to takle the problem at it's roots. the problem is that too much power is in the hads of the oil industry, the small elite that owns it, and the governments who r in their pockets.
now people like bush c oil as an essential part of capitalism. cutting oil usage, he says, is against the interests of america. it would damage industry, the stock-market, and ultimately the whole western way of life.
i disagree. capitalism is built on growth. the expansion of markets, the continuous increase of investment, production and consumption. oil provides much of the energy to achieve this, so removing it, according to those who have little imagination, would undermine the whole system. but oil is a limited resource, and were it truely fundamental to the system that takes infinity as a prerequisite to it's existance, capitalism would b short-lived.

so, the substitution of oil, and this is what many can't see, is fundamental to capitalism. and it's possible.
not only is it possible, it would b a benefit. energy efficiency and new, cleaner sources of energy, new materials and their use have an enourmous economic potential. research, production (or reproduction?)... a whole new industry for capitalism to thrive and grow on. oil could then b used in much better ways: for example with the oil burned in a second in a motorcar u can produce 1000 t-shirts.
a few people would loose some of their wealth: oil tycoons and the odd sheiik, but few people will cry 4 them.
the EU has begun to make it's first tentative steps in this direction, and i strongly encourage them to further these efforts.
this is another reason why bush and his administration are seriously wrong. if europe undertakes this new path with more zeal, it might well return to being the main world-power in 50 years time. some US industries r aware of this, but all efforts r stiffled by an overpowerful oil industry.
oh, and let us not forget the environmental issue. i'll write about when i have a few more minutes

and yes, world unity would b nice. but do u think it at all possible?

Posted by Mental Exodus on Feb-25-2003 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by NFA
yes. wars these days r fought 4 oil. the next stage will b war 4 water. and little is done to takle the problem at it's roots. the problem is that too much power is in the hads of the oil industry, the small elite that owns it, and the governments who r in their pockets.
now people like bush c oil as an essential part of capitalism. cutting oil usage, he says, is against the interests of america. it would damage industry, the stock-market, and ultimately the whole western way of life.
i disagree. capitalism is built on growth. the expansion of markets, the continuous increase of investment, production and consumption. oil provides much of the energy to achieve this, so removing it, according to those who have little imagination, would undermine the whole system. but oil is a limited resource, and were it truely fundamental to the system that takes infinity as a prerequisite to it's existance, capitalism would b short-lived.

so, the substitution of oil, and this is what many can't see, is fundamental to capitalism. and it's possible.
not only is it possible, it would b a benefit. energy efficiency and new, cleaner sources of energy, new materials and their use have an enourmous economic potential. research, production (or reproduction?)... a whole new industry for capitalism to thrive and grow on. oil could then b used in much better ways: for example with the oil burned in a second in a motorcar u can produce 1000 t-shirts.
a few people would loose some of their wealth: oil tycoons and the odd sheiik, but few people will cry 4 them.
the EU has begun to make it's first tentative steps in this direction, and i strongly encourage them to further these efforts.
this is another reason why bush and his administration are seriously wrong. if europe undertakes this new path with more zeal, it might well return to being the main world-power in 50 years time. some US industries r aware of this, but all efforts r stiffled by an overpowerful oil industry.
oh, and let us not forget the environmental issue. i'll write about when i have a few more minutes

and yes, world unity would b nice. but do u think it at all possible?

As for the world gov thing, people have told me that in about 60 years wee will begin to see the change over to a more global government. For now its all about converting the world to democratic nations with friednly interdependant relations with the rest of the world. This is the hard part.

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