TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Chill Out Room
-- Gulf War II - 24 Hours Countdown
Pages (7): « 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7 »

quote:

Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee oh and tiesto14...heres a link i want u to check out LINK

Yoepus said it best with his reply in the political forum:

quote:

forgod's sake Renegade. I have previously held you in very high regard, especially with your insightful post on religion associated human psychology. However, you have seem to be lower yourself at least in my eyes by believing in such propostorous childish arguments. Let me point it that it is 100% legal (and many would argue moral) to kill Enemy Combatents in time of war, with one exception - if they have surrendered (there are exceptions to that though too!). As an aspiring political scientist, I happen to know my UN Charter, my Hague and Geneva Conventions, and my Nuremberg. quote: Read the article (Section 6): "The conduct violated the Charter of the United Nations, the Hague and Geneva Conventions, the Nuremberg Charter, and the laws of armed conflict." Interesting, how in this good earth can the "killing of retreating soliders" be a violation of the UN Charter - A charter which does not even have any reference how wars should be conducted, it has no laws of war. It simpy has reference to when wars are justified (chapter 7). All three Geneva convetions don't have any reference to the "neutrality" of retreating combatants. Hague Convention is the "Convention for the Protection of Cultural Property in the Event of Armed Conflict" (http://www.icomos.org/hague/hague.convention.htm) and simpy is how to protect cultural relics and other formalities of conducting warfare. Nuremberg is equally irrelevant - it simply states who and under what circumstances one can be tried for war crimes (http://www.deoxy.org/wc/wc-nurem.htm). quote: Killing those who pose no threat to you - in violation of the laws governing warfare - is not "war", it's murder. Cold-blooded murder. But what laws governing warfare? Surely not the laws found in Numberg, Hague, Geneva, or the UN charter. Renegade, you used to be the sharp guy thinking before you believe what someone tells you, why are you blinded all of a sudden without questioning what you are told? It is obviously a false statement they are making here in section 6, and as occider pointed out even if it is not, where is the evidence? Please, revert to your old self be critical and critize (not only bush ).

quote:

Originally posted by tiesto14 in NOWAY does your link show any basis for u posting Bush is as evil as Hussein...TRY AGAIN.

hmm...over a page of just u and me defending our stances huh??

lemme quote myself from a few posts ago

quote:

k heres a (hopefully) closing statement its obvious why many are supportive of the war...its cos they are americans and of course one would be patriotic and support ur country..i wouldnt blame u for being patriotic.... we all have our views on this...however its not like things will change by us ponintlessly arguing it over here... now that the war has started, all we can do is hope it will end VERY soon and that it wasnt a just a waste of resources... i cant remember who assumed but no im not a muslim. im not even arab. i was born and raised in the middle east and have seen both sides to the stories.. and NO i dont think Hussein is a saint..but IMO Bush is as evil as him..

notice how only u sprouted up like an idiot??? now shutup and go to ur corner

quote:

Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee hmm...over a page of just u and me defending our stances huh?? lemme quote myself from a few posts ago notice how only u sprouted up like an idiot??? now shutup and go to ur corner

i sprouted up?..lol dude i have been defending America on TA since my first day here....not sure what u mean..lol...and wheres ur proof that Bush is as evil as Hussein?..i gave proof on Hussein...wheres yours?....thats right your opinion is based on SHIT>

and my own response, for good measure, after wasting 20 minutes reading that thhing

quote:

Boy this article really had me fooled for a minute. It's got a very offical sounding name and it's a very official looking document but this "International War Crimes Tribunal" is not affiliated with the UN in any way! As a matter of fact it has NO jurisdiction or authoratative powers at all! It's part of an organization called International Action Center. Here's another "tribunal" being set up: International Action Center - 11 Jun 1999 RAMSEY CLARK ANNOUNCES THE FORMATION OF COMMISSION OF INQUIRY FOR AN INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIMES TRIBUNAL U.S./NATO WAR CRIMES WILL BE SUBJECT OF COMMISSION OF INQUIRY HEARING IN NEW YORK CITY ON JULY 31, 1999 A Commission of Inquiry for an International War Crimes Tribunal has been initiated by former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark. Mr. Clark is the chairperson of the International Action Center. The Commission of Inquiry will hold hearings to collect eyewitness, direct, and expert testimony, video footage, photographs, documents, and other evidence as part of an investigation into crimes against peace, crimes against humanity, and war crimes committed during the U.S./NATO bombing war against Yugoslavia. The Commission of Inquiry will include international jurists, human rights activists, trade unionists, medical personnel, environmental experts, rank-and-file soldiers from NATO countries, and people who have been in Yugoslavia during the bombing. It seems that this guy sets up a tribunal whenever the US or NATO utilizes its troops for anything haha! At any rate "article 6" states that: 6. The United States intentionally bombed and destroyed Iraqi military personnel, used excessive force, killed soldiers seeking to surrender and in disorganized individual flight, often unarmed and far from any combat zones and randomly and wantonly killed Iraqi soldiers and destroyed materiel after the cease fire. Well where is its proof for all of this? It merely says at the end that "The members of the International War Crimes Tribunal finds each of the named accused Guilty on the basis of the evidence against them and that each of the nineteen crimes alleged in the Initial Complaint, attached hereto, has been established to have been committed beyond a reasonable doubt". What evidence??? I didn't see any ... did any of you? And Renegrade even you must agree with me that this thing doesn't even remotely bear any impartiality. Hehe just look at the signatories of the "judges"! After their names there's a short snippet outlining each of their accomplishments. All of the signers are associated with anti-war movements!!! I was gonna eat my hat for a second there.

quote:

Originally posted by tiesto14 i sprouted up?..lol dude i have been defending America on TA since my first day here....not sure what u mean..lol...and wheres ur proof that Bush is as evil as Hussein?..i gave proof on Hussein...wheres yours?....thats right your opinion is based on SHIT>

what i implied by my quoted post is taht i tried to close this useless debate which will achieve nothing and then u posted

quote:

Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee its a pity that people like u exist...practice what u preach... on this case, ur asking me for proof, show me that u urself have proof of ur accusitions...just because they tell u on the news that saddam is evil, u believe it?? its a known fact taht geroge jr is just trying to finish what his father started 12 years ago.

WHY IS IT A KNOWN FACT? CAUSE YOU SAY SO? cause YOUR news source told YOU so? I NEVER HEARD BUSH SAY THAT HE WAS FINISHING ANY FAMILY BUSINESS, I THINK HE IS DOING THIS CAUSE SADDAM IS A FUCKING RETARD! saddam is fanatic who doesn't listen.... 12 years to throw away some weapons (that wouldn't work against the U.S.) and he didn't thow the shit out... why? CAUSE HE DIDN'T NEED TO USE THEM ON THE US, HE WANTED TO USE THEM ON HIS OWN PEOPLE!!!!!!! CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A DEFENSE!!!!!! any modern day army could whoop saddams ass blind folded..... Saddam didn't throw those weapons away because Saddam needed the weapons to threaten and intimidate his own people.... you think any one would listen to that fat fuck if he had no way to hurt them? if it wasn't for the gas/weapon leverage there would be riots in the streets.... cause no one is scared of his soldiers... their pussies..... FEAR is how saddam stays in power....

I CAN'T BELEIVE THEY STILL LET YOU POST..... YOUR A FUCKING IDIOT!!!!! hey T14, ask this kid to prove anything... anything... and he will prove nothing he makes it up..., he gets his facts from the sci-fi channel and comedy central... he is full of shit, he says he is from the middle east but couldn't tell you what camel looked like if his life depended on it.... lol the closest this kid has been to the dessert is a fucking sandbox...... he's posted one good thing since i have seen his name floating around here.... and THAT wasn't even good.... he's just posting to go against the grain, he doesn't care......... if every one was against the war and the minority was for the war thats what he would screaming..."save the people of Iraq, some body save them!!!!"

Politics is not a fashion, it's not cool to be invloved, it's not the IN thing to disagree or agree, people like you just love the attention, "oh look help I am being oppressed,just cause my views are diffrent," ....GROW THE FUCK UP, AND READ A BOOK FOR ONCE......TRY HISTORY!

quote:

Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee what i implied by my quoted post is taht i tried to close this useless debate which will achieve nothing and then u posted

NO NO NO NO...u said show proof...I DID...wheres yours?...thats right u want to back out cus u have ZERO proof to suggest Bush is as evil as Hussein...Bush maybe nuts and a cowboy buts not EVIL like Saddam....u LOSE>

quote:

Originally posted by HardTrance81 hey T14, ask this kid to prove anything... anything... and he will prove nothing he makes it up

he told me to show proof on Hussein and i did...he wont post shit...fuck him and his garbage opinion...him and the rest of these bastards......

quote:

Originally posted by tiesto14 he told me to show proof on Hussein and i did...he wont post shit...fuck him and his garbage opinion...him and the rest of these bastards......

LOL, I told you he wouldn't. he is weak minded activist wann-be.....

hey DJ BEE JAY- sci-fi STANDS FOR SCIENCE FICTION!!!!! meaning everything on that channel is not true... consider a new source.......

quote:

Originally posted by HardTrance81 LOL, I told you he wouldn't. he is weak minded activist wann-be..... hey DJ BEE JAY- sci-fi STANDS FOR SCIENCE FICTION!!!!! meaning everything on that channel is not true... consider a new source.......

LOL

u 2 dont know how to think i suppose cos all u people know to do is read and believe

think abou this

he supports execution

he supports abortion

he blatantly talks about KILLING Hussein and his family...


hmm if those arent evil enough, i dont know what is

quote:

Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee u 2 dont know how to think i suppose cos all u people know to do is read and believe think abou this he supports execution he supports abortion he blatantly talks about KILLING Hussein and his family... hmm if those arent evil enough, i dont know what is

AT LEAST BUSH TALKS ABOUT IT...... AT LEAST IT'S WHERE YOU CAN HEAR AND SEE IT.... Bush is just saying that.. SADDAM ACTUALLY DOES IT... AND THEN HE LIES ABOUT IT...... THATS WHY HE IS DANGEROUSE..... CAUSE HE IS A LIER....... you getting this?HOW CANW E TRUST A MAN WHO MIGHT HAVE THE CAPABILTY TO MAKE NUKE IF HE LIES ALL THE TIME? AT LEAST NORTH KOREANS ARE HONEST ENOUGH TO TELL US THEY HAVE NUKES...... THATS WHY WE DON'T ATTACK THEM.... THEY ARE HONEST.....

and who are you to talk about seeing and believing..... there is overwhelming evidence saying saddam has killed...... plans to kill and will kill with out thinking, with out remorse..... AND YOU IGNORE ALL OF IT!!!!!! there must have been like one article out there saying one thing that might put a dent in bushes argument, and that is the only thing you are going on..........Do you think we made all this up? yeah we have some propaganda goin on but you can't give us this much credit.... if that was the case ww would have convinced the world by now.... we would have all you fucking idiots fooled and this would be over by now, done. end of story.....


by the way.... where are you SOURCES? show me a web page, with saddam running through a field with flowers and peace symbol painted on his forehead..... or helping starving people of iraq out.......;. YOU CAN'T. YOU KNOW WHY? CAUSE HE DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK ABUT THEM, HE DOESN'T COME OUT SIDE CAUSE THERE IS MARK ON HIS HEAD FOR MURDERING OVER 5,00 PEOPLE IN ONE SITTING........ STOP FUCKING POSTING UNLESS YOU HAVE INFO...... WE ARE TRYING TO HELP YOU BY TELLING YOU TO POST YOUR INFO...... CAUSE WITH OUT INFO TO BACK YOU UP, YOU LOOK LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT......

BUSH SUCKS!
Tony Blair is "Bush's little dog"

pffff those guys are childrens.

quote:

Originally posted by Ze TranceLover BUSH SUCKS! Tony Blair is "Bush's little dog" pffff those guys are childrens.

Childrens?

quote:

Originally posted by Ze TranceLover BUSH SUCKS! Tony Blair is "Bush's little dog" pffff those guys are childrens.

ANOTHER great opinion, with so much intelligence to back it up.... i give up... keep this thread....

quote:

Originally posted by HardTrance81 AT LEAST BUSH TALKS ABOUT IT...... AT LEAST IT'S WHERE YOU CAN HEAR AND SEE IT.... Bush is just saying that.. SADDAM ACTUALLY DOES IT... AND THEN HE LIES ABOUT IT...... THATS WHY HE IS DANGEROUSE..... CAUSE HE IS A LIER....... you getting this?HOW CANW E TRUST A MAN WHO MIGHT HAVE THE CAPABILTY TO MAKE NUKE IF HE LIES ALL THE TIME? AT LEAST NORTH KOREANS ARE HONEST ENOUGH TO TELL US THEY HAVE NUKES...... THATS WHY WE DON'T ATTACK THEM.... THEY ARE HONEST..... and who are you to talk about seeing and believing..... there is overwhelming evidence saying saddam has killed...... plans to kill and will kill with out thinking, with out remorse..... AND YOU IGNORE ALL OF IT!!!!!! there must have been like one article out there saying one thing that might put a dent in bushes argument, and that is the only thing you are going on..........Do you think we made all this up? yeah we have some propaganda goin on but you can't give us this much credit.... if that was the case ww would have convinced the world by now.... we would have all you fucking idiots fooled and this would be over by now, done. end of story..... by the way.... where are you SOURCES? show me a web page, with saddam running through a field with flowers and peace symbol painted on his forehead..... or helping starving people of iraq out.......;. YOU CAN'T. YOU KNOW WHY? CAUSE HE DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK ABUT THEM, HE DOESN'T COME OUT SIDE CAUSE THERE IS MARK ON HIS HEAD FOR MURDERING OVER 5,00 PEOPLE IN ONE SITTING........ STOP FUCKING POSTING UNLESS YOU HAVE INFO...... WE ARE TRYING TO HELP YOU BY TELLING YOU TO POST YOUR INFO...... CAUSE WITH OUT INFO TO BACK YOU UP, YOU LOOK LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT......

first off i want u to quote where i said that Hussein was peaceful and a saint. dont be such a fuckin airhead

just cos George says that Hussein is lying, u believe him??? what if he really IS telling the truth??

let me tell u something... if Hussein was really sooooo evil, wouldnt the millions in Iraq who are supposedly mis treated fight back and oust him themself??

i undedrstand that u are patriotic and support ur preseident. but heres my question to u....do u think its neccessary to ruin the world's economy without proof of an immediate threat at this point in time thru war????

now im gonna sit back and wait for ur next flame cos u dont know how to think and rationalize what im really trying to say

quote:

Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee just cos George says that Hussein is lying, u believe him??? what if he really IS telling the truth?? do u think its neccessary to ruin the world's economy without proof of an immediate threat at this point in time thru war????

and just cuz others say there is no immediate threat your going to believe them?

also i would rather risk the economy then find out the hard way, paying with my ass... that is IF he does have wmd.

quote:

Originally posted by -=Sky=- and just cuz others say there is no immediate threat your going to believe them? also i would rather risk the economy then find out the hard way, paying with my ass... that is IF he does have wmd.

oh ok...good for u then...


but dont complain when gas prices are high, there is a lack of jobs, u lose ur current job due to lack of funding to pay u and u live from hand to mouth during the recession

quote:

Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee first off i want u to quote where i said that Hussein was peaceful and a saint. dont be such a fuckin airhead just cos George says that Hussein is lying, u believe him??? what if he really IS telling the truth?? let me tell u something... if Hussein was really sooooo evil, wouldnt the millions in Iraq who are supposedly mis treated fight back and oust him themself?? i undedrstand that u are patriotic and support ur preseident. but heres my question to u....do u think its neccessary to ruin the world's economy without proof of an immediate threat at this point in time thru war???? now im gonna sit back and wait for ur next flame cos u dont know how to think and rationalize what im really trying to say

you should not ask a question if you cannot answer it yourself.... first of all, i beleive that saddam is lying because he was hesitant to have inspection (a sign of needing to hide something) .... so he looks like a lier... why should we beleive saddam any wayz? why do you beleive him?

think about it, you think a man has a gun, you ask him do you have a gun, he says no, you ask him can i search you, he says no, why? cause he might get caught in a lie, had he had no gun, he would have said go ahead.... search all you want..... he would have nothing to hide.....


"let me tell u something... if Hussein was really sooooo evil, wouldnt the millions in Iraq who are supposedly mis treated fight back and oust him themself??"

You never see any people fighting against saddam because the last time they did he killed 5,000 people by gassing them.... you think if will kill 5,000 (thats alot of people) who will stop him from killing a few hundred....


"i undedrstand that u are patriotic and support ur preseident. but heres my question to u....do u think its neccessary to ruin the world's economy without proof of an immediate threat at this point in time thru war????"

by saying something like that it seems that the only reason why the world is even upset aboutthis is because their economies.... not because of the poor people suffering under saddam.....

and for the record, i don't care about bush, i feel he is doing okay as president but that doesn't mean i am loyal follower...... i agree with his position, not him. I WISH IT NEVER HAD TO COME DOWN TO WAR!!!!!!!! but we can only wait so long.. we can only talk so much... times need change NOW, we gave him 12 years...... you know how many children died in 12 years? we gave him 12 years to fix his shit, saddam loves weapons like drug attick loves crack.... we gave him time to straighten out...... and he clearly has not. SADDAM NEEDS TO GO, he has made a career out of killing, plundering, rackateering (fuck the spelling).... I wish ther was way we could all vote him out, or the iraqi vote him out but there is not..... we have to force him....

When I turned 18 i signed up for the U.S. military. you know why i signed up.
i signed up to fight for other preople, not only americans, but other human beings. Of every color, of every race, and from every nation..... i have been through some crazy shit in my life, but it was day in the park compared to what other people go through, and i wanted spend at least some portion of my life trying to help othe people get the same freedoms I HAVE..... i could not imagine not having a choice, or being forced to do anything.... it makes me so mad that other people live in fear of saying anything to their leaders... the poor women that walk through islamic streets covered in the summer heat.... women not allowed to read.... like slaves... I hear stories of what my mother whent through in brasil,when she lived in favala, or in sao paulo, or belo horizonte.... they used to kill children in the street.... it made me mad the world was like this, while i had video games, and ice cream, and mtv people were starving, dieing of cureable disease, being shot, murdered in their homes and raped in front of their families....... I think any proof of any one committing mass murder of any kind, should be killed! and SADDAM IS JUST THAT... he is more than just a dictator, he is a symbol of what is not right with the modern world and others like him need to see what happens when you hurt the people of the world..... that you will not get away with it..... saddam is going to be an example, not of american power... an example of what happens when you torture, kill, and steal, from an entire nation.... when this is done i hope iraq raises the oil prices and i will pay every dollar with a smile, knowing that it's going to iraq, and not saddam............... post what ever you want..... you don't change anything.... i am done with this

quote:

Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee u 2 dont know how to think i suppose cos all u people know to do is read and believe think abou this he supports execution he supports abortion he blatantly talks about KILLING Hussein and his family... hmm if those arent evil enough, i dont know what is

that depends on the individual i suppose....my sister is against abortion ..yet i support it...does that make her or me evil?..no o course not..

I support the death penalty and a few friends of mine dont...doesnt make u evil.

Evil is gassing your own people or putting people in plastic shredders....LEARN the difference

quote:

Originally posted by aloep Childrens?

LOL LOL

quote:

Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee just cos George says that Hussein is lying, u believe him??? what if he really IS telling the truth??

hes not...he fired Scud missiles already and told his commanders to use chemical and bio weapons....hes lying..its a fact.

quote:

Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee let me tell u something... if Hussein was really sooooo evil, wouldnt the millions in Iraq who are supposedly mis treated fight back and oust him themself????

no they are not strong enough...and u crack me up...i think your one of the few people in the world who DISPUTE the fact that Hussein IS evil...have u been living in hole?

quote:

Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee i undedrstand that u are patriotic and support ur preseident. but heres my question to u....do u think its neccessary to ruin the world's economy without proof of an immediate threat at this point in time thru war????????

funny US stock market has been going UP....

quote:

Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee now im gonna sit back and wait for ur next flame cos u dont know how to think and rationalize what im really trying to say

rationalize??..with someone who doesnt find Hussein evil?...dont think so

quote:

Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee oh ok...good for u then... but dont complain when gas prices are high, there is a lack of jobs, u lose ur current job due to lack of funding to pay u and u live from hand to mouth during the recession

gas prices have NOTHING to do with Iraq...they have to do with Venezuala if anything...and US unemployment has not moved since the war....live hand to month?...um we live in America not in the third world.

tiesto 14..ur such a tool


i said bush is as evil as hussein

i never said hussein wasnt evil u fucknut

quote:

Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee tiesto 14..ur such a tool i said bush is as evil as hussein i never said hussein wasnt evil u fucknut

ok fair enough...HOWWWWWWWWWWWWW do u coem to that opinion?

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.