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WinMo 6.5 is a big improvement. I can't wait for the new WinMo handsets to be released (Omnia, SE, LG, HTC).
We're going to be seeing a lot more of these devices in the future.
A big improvement on a POS is still not good enough. They need an entire redesign for Win Mobile 7. I've seen some of the leaked redesigned home screen, but unfortunately the underlying system is still there.
I have had PDA's from the Palm m100, all the way through to today, including Winmobile 2k3, 2k5, 6.1.... The windows mobile OS has been the least intuitive, least stable, and least enriching OS i have ever used. Poorly made tabs, tiny scroll bars, and slow response times.
Sorry RJ, I know you work, or have worked for MS. Lets wait till it actually comes out before we give it any kind of praise, because up until this point, they have not earned anybody's trust.
Agreed, WinMo 6.5 isn't good enough. It's still just a polished turd. It needs to be completely rewritten from the ground up.
I won't touch WinMo until version 7.
Rogers� Q4 results are a mixed bag

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Rogers hikes Internet and cable fees
Cable giant's TV unit takes $294 million charge as ad sales slump
February 19, 2009
Chris Sorensen
Business Reporter
Rogers Communications Inc., which yesterday posted a $138 million fourth-quarter loss, is again raising rates for residential cable and high-speed Internet services as customers scale back spending.
The cable and telecommunications giant recently mailed customers a card detailing residential rates, effective March 1.
Rates will rise between 3 and 9 per cent for Rogers' high-speed Internet services, with the exception of its $99.95 per month "Extreme Plus" tier. Several cable TV packages will also see prices increase, including a 5 per cent hike for basic cable services to $29.99 per month.
Prices for Rogers home phone, raised last year through a 30 per cent increase to a "system access " fee charged to subscribers, will remain unchanged.
The latest increases are necessary to "ensure continued investment in our network and programming" and to address "increased costs like those from programming providers, " Rogers spokesperson Nancy Cottenden said.
The changes come as Rogers feels the impact of a slowing Ontario economy on its Internet and home phone businesses.
Rogers added just 40,000 new home phone customers in the fourth quarter compared with 65,000 net additions in the same period last year. Executives blamed a slowing economy and increased efforts by Bell Canada Inc. to win back customers with special promotions and competitive rates.
Nadir Mohamed, chief operating officer of Rogers' communications division and a leading candidate to replace the late Ted Rogers as the company's chief executive, said sales were also affected by a slowdown in Ontario's housing sector.
"Consumers are generally much more cautious," Mohamed told analysts during a conference call yesterday. "People are moving residences less and those are important sales points for us."
Rogers posted a fourth-quarter loss of $138 million, or 22 cents a share, on revenue of $2.9 billion. That included a $294 million charge related to the company's conventional television business, which has been hurt by steep declines in spending by advertisers.
By contrast, Rogers earned $254 million, or 40 cents a share, in the year-earlier period when sales totalled $2.7 billion. Rogers nevertheless increased its annual dividend yesterday to $1.16 from $1.
Rogers' key wireless business, which accounts for more than half the company's revenue, added 199,000 new subscribers in the fourth quarter.
The average cost of a postpaid user's monthly bill grew just 2 per cent to $74.71, driven mainly by a 36 per cent jump in network data revenue, Rogers said.
But operating costs were also higher in the wireless division as the company sold a greater proportion of high-end smartphones such as Apple Inc.'s iPhone and Research In Motion Ltd.'s various BlackBerry models. The devices carry a higher upfront cost for Rogers, which subsidizes the purchase price and attempts to recoup its money through three-year subscriber contracts.
Greg MacDonald, an analyst at National Bank Financial, said in a note to clients he expects average bills to grow 5 per cent.
Investors also appear concerned that Rogers' smartphone strategy � it sold about 400,000 iPhones and BlackBerrys in the quarter � may not be as profitable as the company has suggested.
Rogers shares fell nearly 8 per cent, or $2.65, to close at $31.70 on the Toronto Stock Exchange.
source:
http://www.thestar.com/business/article/589754

Rogers just finished a conference call ahead of its upcoming earnings call and you know your pals at BGR would have all the goods for you. The most interesting topic covered? LTE! That�s right Verizon, your buddies north of the border aren�t just going to sit back and relax while you go all 4G on us. Here are some key points regarding LTE from the Rogers call:
Rogers� LTE network is currently ahead of its development schedule Recent tests have yielded 50 Mbps download speeds without any sort of optimization (woo!) Speeds at launch are expected to reach 70 Mbps The initial launch of the Rogers LTE network will take place in Vancouver and the surrounding area, in time for the 2010 Olympics (February 2010) The service will launch with a USB stick - Rogers is still talking to vendors - but it has no plans to have any 4G-enabled handsets available at that time The Rogers 4G network will expand outside of the Vancouver area during Q2 2010 Rogers will have 4G phones available by the end of Q2 2010 as it extends its 4G network Rogers noted that its 3G launch was a mess but it is taking measures to ensure that 4G goes much smoother Beyond LTE, Rogers discussed its cable business and the fact that it is currently running near capacity. At the same time, it knows it needs to expand upon its available HD content so Rogers wants to merge its three internet systems - cable internet, 3G and its Portable Internet system. The process will be slow going however as the current 3G system can�t handle the additional load but by Q3 2010 Rogers will have a stable and widely-deployed 4G network that will be more than capable of picking up the slack. As that time Rogers plans to move its cable internet network over to the LTE network in order to free up cable for more HD.
This migration will obviously take a bit of time as it must be staggered to avoid major outages, but Rogers cable customers should at least be happy to know that Rogers is working hard to beef things up and give you a more up to date service offering. Beyond that, Rogers will be dishing out dual-network modems � cable and 4G � and you know you can�t wait to get your hands on one of those puppies. This will allow Rogers to slowly move its internet service from cable to 4G, eventually shifting everything to 4G and using cable as a seamless backup in case of outages.
Thanks, RogersDude!
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Now didn't I tell you Roger's was ahead of development schedule from everyone else awhile ago? Very solid inside info I trust.
fully wireless internet is the future there's no question
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| Originally posted by dEsidEL fully wireless internet is the future there's no question |
. I would cancel my mom's cable subscription today, if i could teach her to torrent.
is it safe to buy those iphones found on craigslist?? they are unlocked and all.
Not willing to pay Fido 350$ + 85$ extra fee + 3 years of contract.
Probably as safe as buying any other piece of electronics off of craigslist.
Just make sure when you meet them, that you have a valid, active SIM card, and try it out on the spot. Don't be fooled for the Russian trick of 'dead battery"."dead battery".
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| Originally posted by Orko Probably as safe as buying any other piece of electronics off of craigslist. Just make sure when you meet them, that you have a valid, active SIM card, and try it out on the spot. Don't be fooled for the Russian trick of 'dead battery"."dead battery". |
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| Originally posted by malek don't you need to go to the store to activate the phone? |
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| Originally posted by Orko Isn't that the whole point of them being unlocked? And no. You can activate the phone through iTunes i believe at home. My buddy got a phone through a friend, and i reloaded the firmware on it. When it booted up, iTunes searched for a valid SIM card to try and register with. But, I believe the whole point of unlocking is to get around that BS. |
First activation must be done @ Rogers or Fido stores. After that it's no need for iTunes activations. Sometimes a jailbroken unit will ask you to plug it into iTunes for activation ... you can do that, or just reboot it and your ok from there.
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| Originally posted by Orko Certainly is a question. Maybe for crappy browsers like mom and dad, but for power users, and businesses, you will never match the speed and efficiency of a wired connection. "i'm sorry sir, but we cannot improve the speeds for your internet connection, there is a building in the way". |
"Sprint Has Palm Pre Locked Up in U.S. for Entire Year"
Now that's lame ... I have strong feeling the Canadian Pre is locked down to Bell. Since Bell has been picking up all the Palm units lately.
Still got a Vodaphone GSM pre coming ... not all hope is lost.
damn looks like some guy unlocked the wrong phone..
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Man shot inside Pacific Mall
February 20, 2009
Jesse McLean
Staff Reporter
A man has been taken to hospital with life-threatening injuries after being shot in the head inside the Pacific Mall.
A single gunshot rang through the mall around 8:45 p.m., just 15 minutes before the building closed for the night.
Steve Wong, a supervisor at Auto Parts in the mall, ran out of his shop to see a man slumped on the floor outside a mobile phone store, surrounded by security guards.
The shooter had already fled the scene.
"It's pretty scary. Nobody expects this to happen inside a mall," he said.
Police confirmed they are looked for a male shooter, wearing a black winter jacket.
Officers were stationed all around the mall, blocking pedestrians and vehicles from leaving the area.
"Nobody's leaving until we've collected all the information we can," said Const. Cathryn Harris of York region police.
Wong said he believes the violence will scare away some of the centre's customers.
"People won't want to come. They are shocked," he said.
Pacific Mall, located at Kennedy Rd. and Steeles Ave. E., is the largest indoor Asian mall in North America with more than 400 shops and boutiques.
source:
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/591002
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| Originally posted by VERTiG0 Agreed, WinMo 6.5 isn't good enough. |
TealOS brings Pre experience pre-Pre!

When we saw those bizarre images of a Centro seemingly running webOS a few days ago, we declared that it could've been someone "hard at work on a webOS skin for Palm OS." Turns out that's exactly what was going on -- and after watching a video of just how thorough the makeover is, we're pretty blown away. Anyone either in love with the hardware of their Palm OS 5-based device or made physically ill by the thought of switching to Sprint to get the Pre might want to seriously consider TealOS' $14.95 asking price, because it'll get you quite a bit of the visual dazzle webOS promises -- cards (which don't appear to be live, but show you where you left off when you minimized), the wave launcher, translucent app menu, and more. Follow the break for the video of TealOS doing its thing.
[Via PreThinking, thanks Philip]
Just *got* it and will be loading it up in a few mins .... Talk about the true meaning of "Die Hard" fans of Palm OS5
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| Originally posted by dEsidEL damn looks like some guy unlocked the wrong phone.. source: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/591002 |
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| Originally posted by E2EK1EL Here some sad news, the store which this took place @ Pmall is called X Site. I always went to that shop only. They were super nice to me & always went the extra mile. Here's what happened, some black dude wanted to exchange or refund his units. Of course this won't be happening, all these phones are imported from Asia & it's not Corp store of Canadian carrier. So the black dude came back & shot one of the owner, Daniel Cheong. RIP Daniel |

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| Originally posted by rabbitjoker It's funny how people make comments like this about products they haven't even used... |

In response to the rapid increase in multimedia and ubiquitous traffic, DOCOMO is developing technologies for Long Term Evolution (LTE), or Super 3G, an advanced version of 3G that will serve as the stepping stone to 4G (IMT-Advanced). Using current and planned new 3G spectrum bands, Super 3G (LTE) will enable high-speed transmissions of up to 300 Mbps (megabits per second) in downlink, a major advance in the evolution of mobile systems. It will also cut down significantly on control and transmission delays, thereby helping to ensure the long-term competitiveness of the system.
One of the main characteristics of Super3G (LTE) is its dramatically improved data transmission rates, the goal being downlink at up to 300 Mbps and uplink at up to 75 Mbps, as agreed upon by the 3G Partnership Project (3GPP). A related characteristic is reduced delays thanks to shorter frame and simple protocol in the evolved air-interface and network architecture. In fact, latency is expected to be less than 100 msec for call setup and to be less than 5 msec in radio access network (RAN) during data transfer. Another key characteristic is significant improvement on spectrum efficiency. The ambitious targets for user throughput and spectrum efficiency are between two and four times those of HSPA.
Although Super3G (LTE) will use the existing 3G spectrum, advanced new technologies incorporated in its radio access system will enable for significantly improved performance. One such technology is orthogonal frequency division multiplexing (OFDM), which transmits high-speed data using numerous multiple sub-carriers in parallel, a method especially suited to areas with multipath propagation, such as urban environments. Another key technology is multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO), which uses multiple transmission and reception antennas on the same frequency to create different data streams that are multiplexed spatially. Radio access networks will use simple architecture for low latency and low-cost network construction. The core networks of Super3G (LTE) radio access will be all-IP networks, which eventually could be configured to smoothly accommodate more advanced 4G (IMT-Advanced) radio access systems someday.
The 3GPP is devising standardized specifications for Super3G (LTE), with DOCOMO's aggressive activities playing a key role in the process. In conjunction with significant advances in the standardization of the LTE RAN, DOCOMO began developing experimental equipment in July 2006. Following the construction of a prototype Super3G (LTE) experimental equipment, indoor and field trials began in July 2007 and February 2008, respectively, and resulted in the achievement of up to 250 Mbps in downlink. Future tests will evaluate transmissions in typical operating environments. Development of commercial equipment, which will be carried out in parallel with the evaluation of the prototype equipment, is targeted for completion by the end of 2009.
Hmmmmmm .... Japan's Super3G is beyond our 4G LTE & it moves 300mbs/sec. Wonder how fast their 4G IMT Advance will be for in the future?
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| Originally posted by VERTiG0 Given that so much of the news about 6.5 talks about how it's nothing more than a skin over the same WinMo we all know and mostly despise, I don't think I really need to use it. |
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/24/...-7-coming-next/
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| Sure, we're still anticipating -- but not necessarily merrily -- the release of Windows Mobile 6.5, but for those who wish to look even farther into the future, Microsoft head honcho Steve Ballmer said in a conference call this week that WinMo 7 will be out sometime next year. That jibes pretty well with what we've heard from Motorola and ZDNet before, although there's probably a dozen or so known unknowns that could push it well into 2011 or beyond. For now, however, we're willing to take Steve at his word. Hey, at least they're not gearing up for a Windows Mobile 6.75 in the interim... right? |
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