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Originally posted by che REVIEW ANYONE??????????

seriously

Johnny Chaos

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Originally posted by MrSquirrel Ya didn't miss much. It was mostly just really loud (he turned it up to 11 I think lol). MrS

Well I am truly in awe once again by PVD's excellent set and energy! Was it me or did most of his set come from his Apple Laptop? I guess if you travel as much as he does for gigs all over the world...what a smart way of keeping your music close by your side instead of hundreds of vinyl that the airlines like to lose.

That *guy* after PVD if I wasn't mistaken was Johnny Chaos...a pretty good local DJ. But that LOUD ass crap he was playing..OMG. My ears are still ringing

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Originally posted by TranceBrothaIN That *guy* after PVD if I wasn't mistaken was Johnny Chaos...a pretty good local DJ. But that LOUD ass crap he was playing..OMG. My ears are still ringing

He could have been the new messiah but it still does not change the fact that he was waaaaaay too loud. Maybe HOB wanted him to get the people out by rupturin' their eardrums.

I did not care for the two or three tunes he spun before we took off either. So maybe that is it.

lol

Fuck I don;t want to get up and go to work at 630 tomorrow

MrS

btw... this is lunasea/daniela on porky's computer! :D

it was a good time but there were too many strung out crackies trying to dance and smashing into me...

this one mexican-sweaty-nasty-guido kept rubbing up against me and i kept pushing him REALLY hard and it didn't do anything, he just kept being annoying..! so finally, i was like.. THAT'S IT!!

so the next time he rubbed up against me, i farted on him


....he went away.

daniela here again! hoi!

oh yah, ps - i got REALLY fab pics of paul behind the booth and of the crowd whilst on stage.. when i get back to NJ ill post them for you guys!

aiyayayayayaya!!!!!!

PVD

Porky How did you get access upstairs? Behind the booth? Also I thought you were form Chicago not NJ?

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Originally posted by Dj Spiel Porky How did you get access upstairs? Behind the booth? Also I thought you were form Chicago not NJ?

That was lunasea posting on porky's account.

Sent me for a loop for a sec as well.

MrS

Re: daniela here again! hoi!

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Originally posted by Porky oh yah, ps - i got REALLY fab pics of paul behind the booth and of the crowd whilst on stage.. when i get back to NJ ill post them for you guys! aiyayayayayaya!!!!!!

Can't wait!!!! Hurry!

hey everyone,

does anyone have the tracklist for the event?? or possibly know where to find it?? i'm searching for it, but so far no luck. let me know people. thanks alot

pvd was using stanton final scratch the entire time, sorta didnt like that, cuz he didnt even pick up a record. but its the 21st century and i guess you gotta adapt, also, it's a whole lot better and easier to carry a laptop than a bunch of vinyl and cd's. final scratch is very risky, it's easy to make a mistake, and i for one, wouldn't trust a laptop(PC or MAC), cuz i can just imagine the embarassment if something jammed. regardless, it sounded great and the transitions were perfect. i believe i noticed one skip, but thats just my opinion.

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Originally posted by logikl pvd was using stanton final scratch the entire time, sorta didnt like that, cuz he didnt even pick up a record. but its the 21st century and i guess you gotta adapt, also, it's a whole lot better and easier to carry a laptop than a bunch of vinyl and cd's. final scratch is very risky, it's easy to make a mistake, and i for one, wouldn't trust a laptop(PC or MAC), cuz i can just imagine the embarassment if something jammed. regardless, it sounded great and the transitions were perfect. i believe i noticed one skip, but thats just my opinion.

Interesting, if true. Note that this is Paul van Dyk though. For what he makes in 15 minutes of DJing, he could buy the best laptop available anywhere. From what I've seen of Finalscratch, it's quite stable. Richie Hawtin played with it for a while and I never heard any reports of fuckups. And there are enough chances of fuckups with plain ol' vinyl... we've seen how crowded dancefloors can skip records at HOB...

Still, to not see him messing with vinyls--that would be a little disappointing.

hey d00ds!!

yea, sorry for the mix up, i did post and say it was daniela under chris' name but i'm sure the "aiyayayaya" threw everyone for a loop LOL..

i haven't even uploaded pics yet my friend adam has my USB cord, i have to get it back!

*workin on it* hehe..

regarding final scratch: lemme tell ya, it's a whole lot harder to mix with that than to mix regular records.. paul doesn't do it bc it's easier for him.. he does it bc 1> the mixing is more precise, 2> the sound quality is better 3> less chances of mistakes (ie record skipping)

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Originally posted by LuNaSeA regarding final scratch: lemme tell ya, it's a whole lot harder to mix with that than to mix regular records.. paul doesn't do it bc it's easier for him.. he does it bc 1> the mixing is more precise, 2> the sound quality is better 3> less chances of mistakes (ie record skipping)

Sorry, but I've used it before and none of these things are true because:

1) How can it be more precise when one uses the exact same turntable and same pitch control as a turntable?
2) Many audio purists think that vinyl sounds better than CD and always will. Maybe if he's getting masters from producers as .wavs... But he's playing mp3s, and NO ONE has ever said that mp3 sounds better than vinyl, even if it's 320kbps.
3) Again, how can there be less chance of mistakes when finalscratch still relies on records? If a finalscratch record skips, the mp3 it's playing will skip too.

The only reason to use it is to save space/weight and maybe save the environment (mp3s don't take up landfill space ). And no it's not harder to mix with it--the idea is that it's just like using a record--that's its genius!

I hope it doesn't seem like I'm jumping down your throat. I just happen to disagree with everything you said.

Final

Ok. For many Weeks and Months I have been hearing about final scratch. Although this is a PVD forum can someone just please Explain to me What final scratch is and what is does? Thanks!

What is FinalScratch�?

FinalScratch� is the best and only real bridge for the professional and home DJ to enter and control the digital world. By using any standard turntable/mixer setup, a DJ can now manipulate digital music the way they have always done it...by hand and by vinyl. DJs can now mix both analog records and digital files the way they have always been accustomed to and prefer.

Just load any digital audio file onto your computer, then pick and choose from your own playlist. Your computer becomes your record box. As well for the professional, save and load any production, remix, or new edit you have created and play it that very moment or take it to gig the same night without the need to cut an acetate or make test pressings.

FinalScratch� allows mixing of digital audio files, controlled with any DJ turntable. The FS10K package includes three special vinyl records, the Scratch Amp to connect the computer to your existing turntable/mixer setup, and the Final Scratch software. An FS10K system, which supports 2 turntables, includes the Final Scratch software, the Scratch amp, and 2 FS vinyl records.


The FinalScratch� software allows the user to save the audio files in various playlists, called Record Boxes, as well to search and assign the audio files to either turntable. The software provides a visual representation of the music, needle position for each audio file, and remaining time of each audio file.

The vinyl records included in the FinalScratch�, which contain digital information, are used to mix digital audio files like MP3, WAV, AIFF, and audio CD. All mixing is done directly from the turntables, including pitch shifting, cuing, spinning up and down, and even scratching. The FinalScratch� records can be used in combination with traditional analog records when mixing your set.

The Scratch Amp acts as a powerful sound card to connect all the components together to form the system. It provides 2 sets of phono inputs and outputs and 2 sets of line outputs. The Scratch Amp processes the signal from the FinalScratch� records and sends it to the computer via USB.


INFO FROM THE STANTON WEBSITE

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Originally posted by sti3 Sorry, but I've used it before and none of these things are true because: 1) How can it be more precise when one uses the exact same turntable and same pitch control as a turntable? 2) Many audio purists think that vinyl sounds better than CD and always will. Maybe if he's getting masters from producers as .wavs... But he's playing mp3s, and NO ONE has ever said that mp3 sounds better than vinyl, even if it's 320kbps. 3) Again, how can there be less chance of mistakes when finalscratch still relies on records? If a finalscratch record skips, the mp3 it's playing will skip too. The only reason to use it is to save space/weight and maybe save the environment (mp3s don't take up landfill space ). And no it's not harder to mix with it--the idea is that it's just like using a record--that's its genius! I hope it doesn't seem like I'm jumping down your throat. I just happen to disagree with everything you said.

To answer # 1 and #2 first off...the "vinyl sounding better" argument is only valid when speaking of music that was recorded in Analog form. Since most vinyl made today is just pressed using the same digitally recorded master as a CD, it is going to sound the same. Sure there will be a little color added because of imperfections in the vinyl but it is not an analog recording to begin with so the point is moot.

#2 answer can be correlated to the vnyl using the same digitally recorded master as the CD. Since final scrath can use the uncompressed audio files (AIFF is a file format that supports the 16bit, 44.100kHz, pcM encoding) it would be just like listening to a cd. You can easily pull tracks direct from a cd without encoding them as anything else, they just take up more space than mp3's. Since that powerbook Paul was using has at least a 40GB hard drive he could probably have several hundred tracks in there at the CD quality level or higher.

Hope that made sense...

MrS

haha mp3s my ass. paul requests 16-bit master waves and aiff files from the producers and label to put on his mac.

all the best,

arturo

ahh yes...there was one skip...i remember it...we noticed, he noticed, we laughed he *shruged* and laughed...tune kept on bangin...

the end.

does anyone know if pictures from the show are available somewhere?? wwbsite??

it'd be appreciated, thanks

See http://www.purefuture.com/photos/20...5pvd/index.html for the 'official' party pics... Couple more pics in various forums, like http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=141860 (first post, click the links)...

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Originally posted by arturob haha mp3s my ass. paul requests 16-bit master waves and aiff files from the producers and label to put on his mac. all the best, arturo

wowowowo...
arturo posting in the CTA forums lucky us....
way to lay the smack down man...
-nick

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Originally posted by ninja_k wowowowo... arturo posting in the CTA forums lucky us.... way to lay the smack down man... -nick

LOL!!! hehehehee


tthere's a time to lay the law down..................

this pix are so good omg. i saw michele from pamdjs! very cool girlie!

hey daniela,
are the pics ready yet? i can't wait ... (this is arn's friend radu btw.; we met briefly at pvd in central park)

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Originally posted by Trancer-adu hey daniela, are the pics ready yet? i can't wait ... (this is arn's friend radu btw.; we met briefly at pvd in central park)

i can't wait to get my pics too, i'm still waiting to get my USB cord back, damn it

i can prrrrromise i will have these pics tomorrow tho!! about fookin time!!

Show was absolutely great. And to be honest, I had reservations about going, because, as unpopular as this may be around here, I'm not a big fan of pvd's albums. Out there and back was a bit too lofty for my taste...Zurdo was just odd all the way around...and Reflections, while having several tracks that are just off the chain, was again lackluster as a whole in my humble opinion. I went to this show for one reason...the livesets of his I've heard over the years. All have been leaps-and-bounds better than his albums, and imo this show was no different.

I felt kinda Euphoric when he dropped Homage (Stone sober btw, had one 8oz whiskey coke for $5, /rude HOB) it was just amazing the mixing he was doing. As far as the technicalities of the mixing, I haven't a clue. I've never even attempted mixing tracks and prolly never will, my judge is my ear, and the judge was ringing for a few days The treble was definitely a few notches too loud, towards the end the breaks were nearly unbearable. In the end, I'll be seeing pvd whenever he is in driving distance.

Anyone know who the first DJ of the evening was? I enjoyed him as well, he seemed to play a bit harder trance than I usually like, but it was good stuff.

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