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Originally posted by xKaoSx French Photographer Italian Security hired by US

i'm sure the fact that he was taking pics really pissed off those iraqis, who could france do such a thing - those poor iraqis - how can you blame them for doing these type of attacks. as we all know it's all the frenchs fault anyways

*edit - wow its so easy being a hippy

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Originally posted by Izzy i'm sure the fact that he was taking pics really pissed off those iraqis, who could france do such a thing - those poor iraqis - how can you blame them for doing these type of attacks. as we all know it's all the frenchs fault anyways *edit - wow its so easy being a hippy

France probably already called someone and said they surrender

I find it odd the way some people think. "If we stop attacking them, they'll listen to us", or some such nonsense.

It's always the same thing - if we just slow down a little, if we just be a little more diplomatic, then the real world will suddenly turn into an ideal world where everyone wants to live in peace and harmony.

I'd be curious to see examples of past instances where this "diplomacy" and "cautiousness" has accomplished anything productive. Damn hippies. Look at us, look at our biology, we evolved as a fighting species! Conflict is in our nature. Sure, war is not "nice", I wouldn't want to have to fight on the front lines, but that's all the more reason to admire the people who are brave enough to do so.

Well- GW Just said we're out of there on June 30th-

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Originally posted by DigiNut I'd be curious to see examples of past instances where this "diplomacy" and "cautiousness" has accomplished anything productive. Damn hippies. Look at us, look at our biology, we evolved as a fighting species! Conflict is in our nature. Sure, war is not "nice", I wouldn't want to have to fight on the front lines, but that's all the more reason to admire the people who are brave enough to do so.

I think you fail to remember the very diplomatic stance Ghandi took against the British Empire.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King I think you fail to remember the very diplomatic stance Ghandi took against the British Empire.

What, he invited the queen for one of those presidential state dinners too?

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen But, we were rebuilding and our civillian contractors were burned alive and dragged through the streets and hung from a bridge. How can we rebuild if we are constantly attacked?

I didn't knew CIA officers were in Iraq to rebuild...

Well ok lets look at it from this perspective. How many press people have the americans killed and how many "friendly fire" deaths? And what percenatge of the whole population of Iraq is press people? And are these press people "a threat".

Edit: What I mean is I will bet that the US has killed more press people than any Iraqi "insurgants".

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More than 600 Iraqis have been killed in Fallujah since Marines began a siege against Sunni insurgents in the city a week ago, most of them women, children and the elderly, the head of the city's hospital said Sunday.

>>>LINK<<<

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Originally posted by borron I didn't knew CIA officers were in Iraq to rebuild...

I don't know if you are being sarcastic but who told you they were CIA in the very first place. At any rate they are already dead and the U.S. needs to get the f*** out of Iraq. I am disgusted with Iraq, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and North Korea for that matter. There is nothing but a stream of negative news coming out of these places practically everyday in varying degrees.

The U.S. can do no right and everyone else does nothing but stand by and critic at a given opportunity. I can't stand Bush as much as the next guy and will vote Kerry but it is true what they say, there is a critic born every second. Hurry up June 30th and give back the Iraqis their nation so they can kill each other without wanting to take part in any peaceful political process. My rant for the day.

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Originally posted by Dervish Well ok lets look at it from this perspective. How many press people have the americans killed and how many "friendly fire" deaths? And what percenatge of the whole population of Iraq is press people? And are these press people "a threat". Edit: What I mean is I will bet that the US has killed more press people than any Iraqi "insurgants".

Apparently you know how the troops are supposed to differentiate civilians from the idiots over there. They dont know who they're fighting against. Anyone and everyone could be the enemy trying to kill them.

It's quite easy if shot at shoot back. If shot at and you start shooting back make sure of your target don't just shoot back at anyone and anything.

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Originally posted by Dervish It's quite easy if shot at shoot back. If shot at and you start shooting back make sure of your target don't just shoot back at anyone and anything.

Well you can roll your eyes if you like but read this, and if this sounds acceptable to you then I give up. You are a lost cause.

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If someone suspicious appears from the rear, blast them. The rules of engagement in Iraq have been aggressive, allowing troops to shoot when in doubt, even if an innocent Iraqi gets killed from time to time. This also encourages Iraqi drivers to stay a respectful distance from American convoys.

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Originally posted by Dervish It's quite easy if shot at shoot back. If shot at and you start shooting back make sure of your target don't just shoot back at anyone and anything.

Wow, if that's how Brits think then they really do suck as soldiers.

Dude, once you get shot at, it's probably too late. This isn't a hollywood movie where the enemies can't aim their guns and fire 15 shots at you without ever hitting you. If you wait for them to fire, you're probably going to die.

And if the Americans said the British soldiers were "in the way", and that is the way British soldiers think, then I can understand the American position, since they probably have to spend half their time protecting those idiots who refuse to fire at anyone because they *just might* hit a civilian.

I'm surprised - for someone with so many friends out there in military service, you seem to have no conception, not even an imagination, of what it's like to be out there.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Wow, if that's how Brits think then they really do suck as soldiers. Dude, once you get shot at, it's probably too late. This isn't a hollywood movie where the enemies can't aim their guns and fire 15 shots at you without ever hitting you. If you wait for them to fire, you're probably going to die. And if the Americans said the British soldiers were "in the way", and that is the way British soldiers think, then I can understand the American position, since they probably have to spend half their time protecting those idiots who refuse to fire at anyone because they *just might* hit a civilian. I'm surprised - for someone with so many friends out there in military service, you seem to have no conception, not even an imagination, of what it's like to be out there.

Thanks- now I dont have to write all that.
much more eloquent anyways. :P

Actually my friends words were "Hesitant" and "Indecisive"
and I drew my own conclusions that they were pretty much in the way

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Originally posted by DigiNut Wow, if that's how Brits think then they really do suck as soldiers. Dude, once you get shot at, it's probably too late. This isn't a hollywood movie where the enemies can't aim their guns and fire 15 shots at you without ever hitting you. If you wait for them to fire, you're probably going to die. And if the Americans said the British soldiers were "in the way", and that is the way British soldiers think, then I can understand the American position, since they probably have to spend half their time protecting those idiots who refuse to fire at anyone because they *just might* hit a civilian. I'm surprised - for someone with so many friends out there in military service, you seem to have no conception, not even an imagination, of what it's like to be out there.

Yes I am sure you know far better than them..... yes I see now.

All is clear I've had a wonderful moment. You know better than people actually there. I understand that now.

Hurrah for you and your all seeing eye. I can but wonder in your all knowing and all powerful wisdom given your emence expericance and knowlage of the situation and your uncanny ablity to disect and understand all.

Fallacy! Fallacy! Fallacy! Fallacy!

What you propose is as stupid as it is ilegal.

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Originally posted by xKaoSx Thanks- now I dont have to write all that. much more eloquent anyways. :P Actually my friends words were "Hesitant" and "Indecisive" and I drew my own conclusions that they were pretty much in the way

You seem "Hesitant" and "Indecisive" in knowing exactly what your friends said if you don't mind me saying so.

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Originally posted by Dervish You seem "Hesitant" and "Indecisive" in knowing exactly what your friends said if you don't mind me saying so.

Actually Digi just misquoted something I wrote earlier and already corrected.

Resorting to personal attacks now are we?
You must be running out of ideas.

You should have been hesitant on buying those cheap headphones.
(sorry- was funny the first time and it still is )

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Originally posted by xKaoSx Actually Digi just misquoted something I wrote earlier and already corrected. Resorting to personal attacks now are we? You must be running out of ideas. You should have been hesitant on buying those cheap headphones. (sorry- was funny the first time and it still is )

I'm not running outta ideas. I'm running out of patience. You people don't understand what your saying is inherantly ilegal. It's murder or very least man slaughter.

PS you still haven't told me what type of headphones they are.

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Originally posted by Dervish I'm not running outta ideas. I'm running out of patience. You people don't understand what your saying is inherantly ilegal. It's murder or very least man slaughter. PS you still haven't told me what type of headphones they are.

I fail to see how you think it is illegal? You act as though they are having hunting trips every night searching out woman and children. You show me one credible report where they killed civilians on purpose.


Radio Shack?

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Originally posted by Dervish I'm not running outta ideas. I'm running out of patience. You people don't understand what your saying is inherantly ilegal. It's murder or very least man slaughter.

LOL, that's the best line I've heard so far.

What are you saying, that every soldier should just stand around waiting to be killed because taking any action would be murder? How can you advocate passivity in a war zone!?

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If someone suspicious appears from the rear, blast them. The rules of engagement in Iraq have been aggressive, allowing troops to shoot when in doubt, even if an innocent Iraqi gets killed from time to time. This also encourages Iraqi drivers to stay a respectful distance from American convoys.

That is illegal.

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Originally posted by xKaoSx Radio Shack?

Top of the line Stantons actually

Take a look at that too >>> [LINK]

EDIT: Actually that site looks a bit of a shit hole (Biased I mean). But the quotes would probebly be ok.

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