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Originally posted by politicsofdancin ummm , erm , uhhhh coz hawaii is not in asia? good god hence it doesn't make us asians.

I'm from Taiwan and I don't wear a Taiwanese flag to seperate myself from koreans, japs, and chinese people

which reminds me of that one joke from some guy saying how puerto ricans always carry around a puerto rican flag
hahaha

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Originally posted by PETRAN www.punidher man u are one of the most stupid idiots i ve ever met in my entire life. Hope u don't believe the things u said as:

In considering the following...

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Originally posted by PETRAN Probably the taliban whould have taken off his mask, unveiling a terrifying skull, that would than spit a massive flame and turn the poor guy into carbon, or maybe he would have thrown a hook into his head, pulling it with the entire skeleton off his skin(scorpion style). Now that would be cool.

...I have reached the conclusion that you need to stop smoking crack, and it would also be helpful if you just stopped talking altogether.

www.punidher man u are one of the most stupid idiots i ve ever met in my entire life. Hope u don't believe the things u said cause:

1) Yes middle east has oil thats why americans have done this war in the first place u idiooootttt not for the world peace

2) U mention a few wars and ALL of these "crises" u describe are not caused by anyone else BUT from americans themeselves who they need morreee and moorreee money

3) Bush is an uneducated cowboy and he is a shame to the whole earth


4) Americans are still in the map because of the second thing i mention(because they "stand" on others)You didnt mention the "yugoslavia" crisis recently

5) You give weapons to israel uuu iiddiiooot(again) because israel is populated by jewish and jewish people are the ones who control america.

6) OH, mind you america still owns the world-cup of killings/deaths at a major scale.

conclusion:

The Russians should have won the cold war.

(Sorry to all americans in here!!!:stongue

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Originally posted by wwu.punisher Name one good, positive thing that any government in the Middle East has done in the past 40 years for anyone other than themselves. NAME ONE. You will quickly find that that can't be done. They're nothing but a bunch of angry zealots arguing about who has the better imaginary friend.

WTF?? since when has the quality of a government been judged on how well they help other countries?


dude you need some education bro, seriously. hopefully it will broaden your horizons, then maybe you can see the story form others point of view.

have you ever taken a cultural anthropology class? or sociology???are you even out of high school?

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Originally posted by PETRAN The Russians should have won the cold war.

I was slightly nodding my head yes, until then.



lol. ima laugh at that for a while.

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Originally posted by wwu.punisher Call me an idiot. I could care less. I live in the richest, most powerful country in the world. If we're idiots, why have we been running the show for as long as we have? Why have we remained the most powerful nation on the planet through two World Wars, Vietnam, and three major conflicts in the Middle East? Why are we always the one that has to go in and set things straight?

They weren't calling all Americans idiots they are calling you an idiot. Please don't use "we" and "we're" in an attempt to include all Americans when you state your views. What part did you play in the "two World Wars, Vietnam, and three major conflicts in the Middle East"?


Three things bug the shit out of me when people post or talk about war and politics...


1) When someone either intentionally or inadvertently takes credit for the deeds of others when they personally played no part in the accomplishments that they are boasting about.

2) When someone from any country in the world feels the need to come onto a message board and post something that is basically saying "our country is better than yours".

3) When someone blames an entire population for the actions of others.

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Originally posted by wwu.punisher Call me an idiot. I could care less. I live in the richest, most powerful country in the world. If we're idiots, why have we been running the show for as long as we have?

Well, you know Idiot (you said you wouldnt mind), a bit of modesty can get you somewhere. You might live in the strongest country in the world, but you didnt get there without a bit of greed, slavery, third world country abuse, controlling other governments to your will, supplying extremist and dictators with deadly weapons, espionage and assassination...and the list goes on and on...but in all fairness your right, you do something right to keep yourself the wealthiest nation in the planet. Amongst the right and good your country has produced, is just as much evil and corruption that has raped this world of its humanity. This goes for alot of countries though, so I cant just squarely put the blame on America.

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Why have we remained the most powerful nation on the planet through two World Wars, Vietnam, and three major conflicts in the Middle East?

Well lets take a brief look at some of these wars, WW1, a good showing of American strength. WW2, now we all know the German's wouldn't of fallen hadn't been for their own ill-prepared demise in weakening their borders and falling to the Russians and their harsh winter, American's didnt win that war, it was pretty much handed to them. Let's not forget the first and only A-bomb used on a country, not once by twice (though I am sure no one will let American do that again). Now on to Vietnam, is this really considered an American victory? Now the Middle East, this is a funny thing, notice you always win because these countries have no army? Its like pitting a boxer versus a six year old girl, there was never a chance to begin with.

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Why are we always the one that has to go in and set things straight?

Because usually, America has more at stake if you don't interfer with other peoples business. If there isn't anything worthwhile for America to profit off of, usually they wont stick their heads into an issue and risk it all for the safety of the country. Just some thoughts Idiot. (yes I will refer to you as that from now) You talk about how the government is doing things from keeping the world from tearing the world apart, you ever think it could be America's involvement with everything that makes everyone want to tear each other apart?

this is shocking!!

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Originally posted by Boomer187 WTF?? since when has the quality of a government been judged on how well they help other countries? dude you need some education bro, seriously. hopefully it will broaden your horizons, then maybe you can see the story form others point of view. have you ever taken a cultural anthropology class? or sociology???are you even out of high school?

No, he boast's the life of a college student dorm resident. It's wierd I didnt know Clown College had dorms.

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Originally posted by Rodrico No, he boast's the life of a college student dorm resident. It's wierd I didnt know Clown College had dorms.

I wish I had a video clip of Ace Ventura going "OOhhhhhhh HA HA HA" in the fakest laugh ever recorded.

So this is turning into American Bashing Thread, When it shoudlnt matter if the person is american,english,german,french,ect. Why cant peopel stop talking shit and show some fricken respect to this man that lost his life in a horrific way. It makes me sad that people have to look at otherthings and find ways to give more reason to bash another when the real thing that matters gets left out. Its just sad to see humanity hating each other so much makes sme sick to be honest. Whats truely sad is there are people who truely find nothing wrong with what happened in this video. But the people need to drop the whole shit talking and fuckin show some damn respect. Life is always more important then who we are and where we come from.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by trancebrat
They weren't calling all Americans idiots they are calling you an idiot. Please don't use "we" and "we're" in an attempt to include all Americans when you state your views. What part did you play in the "two World Wars, Vietnam, and three major conflicts in the Middle East"?


Three things bug the shit out of me when people post or talk about war and politics...


1)
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Reasons why I stopped reading this thread within two pages.

GRR.

I dont hate America, please people, dont get me wrong, I go to States, I love the states, I love its people, but I am gonna point out the wrong in every country that I know enough about (just happens America's history is alot more easier to tap into than most other countries history, due to its shorter life span and its rise to superpower). I can't help that North American values are somewhat flawed and idiotic, I just like the point them out for others to see. I think theres tons of intelligent American's on here. I just like to bash and put down the ignorant super-patriotic ones that spew the crap, Idiot-boy (punisher) does...a bit of modesty never hurt.

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Originally posted by Rodrico WW2, now we all know the German's wouldn't of fallen hadn't been for their own ill-prepared demise in weakening their borders and falling to the Russians and their harsh winter, American's didnt win that war, it was pretty much handed to them. Let's not forget the first and only A-bomb used on a country, not once by twice (though I am sure no one will let American do that again).

Heh normally I would leave all political/history discussion to the polit forum, but I'm a 20th century European history buff so I'm compelled to comment on portions of your post. Now, while it is true that from July of 1943 onwards, after the battle of kursk, hitler had no hopes acheiving military victory agains the Soviet Union, that in itself does not imply defeat. What's important to remember is that the alliance between the US, Britain, and the Soviet Union was conceived out of desparation rather than true amicability, and the alliance was tentative at best.

Hitler himself outlined his plans in fuhrer directive 51:

"For the last two and one-half years the bitter and costly struggle against Bolshevism has made the utmost demands upon the bulk of our military resources and energies. This commitment was in keeping with the seriousness of the danger, and the over-all situation. The situation has since changed. The threat from the East remains, but an even greater danger looms in the West: the Anglo-American landing! In the East, the vastness of the space will, as a last resort, permit a loss of territory even on a major scale, without suffering a mortal blow to Germany's chance for survival.

Not so in the West! If the enemy here succeeds in penetrating our defenses on a wide front, consequences of staggering proportions will follow within a short time. All signs point to an offensive against the Western Front of Europe no later than spring, and perhaps earlier.

For that reason, I can no longer justify the further weakening of the West in favour of other theaters of war. I have therefore decided to strengthen the defenses in the West, particularly at places from which we shall launch our long-range war against England."

He then proceeded to make the western front the utmost priority in terms of arms and materiale in 1944 the implied strategy being he had 2000km of space to utilize in the East and approximately 500km of space to work with in the west before the allies reached the ruhr industrial valley. Essentially, the goal was to repel the allied invasion and avoid a two-front war. A concept quite feasible since the conditions for a land invasion encompass a very narrow time period, and furthermore the time required to amass replacements for a destroyed invasion fleet (particularly higgins boats) would have postponed any future invasion by at least a year or two. The effect of such could have conceivably destroy the alliance, and subsequentely compel Stalin to accept a negotiated peace settlement dividing eastern europe. A concept not so implaussible considering the molotov-ribbentrop pact of 1939, particularly due to the fact that the Soviet Union's population had been decimated.

As such, the allied invasion on D-day was indeed a critical turning point of the war's success and not quite the inevitable hand me down from the Russians that you seem to portray.

Now, on to the second matter of criticism for the atomic bombs, I think I've expressed my views quite thoroughly in this thread:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ht=atomic+bombs

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Originally posted by Rodrico I dont hate America, please people, dont get me wrong, I go to States, I love the states, I love its people, but I am gonna point out the wrong in every country that I know enough about (just happens America's history is alot more easier to tap into than most other countries history, due to its shorter life span and its rise to superpower). I can't help that North American values are somewhat flawed and idiotic, I just like the point them out for others to see. I think theres tons of intelligent American's on here. I just like to bash and put down the ignorant super-patriotic ones that spew the crap, Idiot-boy (punisher) does...a bit of modesty never hurt.

As long as you are bashing him and not America as a whole.

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Originally posted by Kurve So this is turning into American Bashing Thread, When it shoudlnt matter if the person is american,english,german,french,ect. Why cant peopel stop talking shit and show some fricken respect to this man that lost his life in a horrific way. It makes me sad that people have to look at otherthings and find ways to give more reason to bash another when the real thing that matters gets left out. Its just sad to see humanity hating each other so much makes sme sick to be honest. Whats truely sad is there are people who truely find nothing wrong with what happened in this video. But the people need to drop the whole shit talking and fuckin show some damn respect. Life is always more important then who we are and where we come from.

Exactly!

I meant the situation the Germans had left themselves after the ill-prepared battles on the Russian front, that had decimated the German army that was needed for the Western front. I didn't mean to come off that the Russians had handed down the war to the Allied forces (from what I gathered, the Russians didn't really do much other than taking back what was theres). I should of re-worded that more carefully, but definately an interesting read and link.

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Originally posted by Rodrico I meant the situation the Germans had left themselves after the ill-prepared battles on the Russian front, that had decimated the German army that was needed for the Western front. I didn't mean to come off that the Russians had handed down the war to the Allied forces (from what I gathered, the Russians didn't really do much other than taking back what was theres). I should of re-worded that more carefully, but definately an interesting read and link.

Oh no, you're absolutely correct that the Eastern front was critical towards acheiving unconditional victory against the Geramans. The greatest sacrifice in the war was given by the Russians. However, the war was truly a combined effort as any one single force could not have toppled the the Germans (with any sense of certainty) alone. I'm merely posing the argument that a German defeat in 1944 was by no means assured in any sense of the imagination. There have been many interesting analyses by numerous historians who have contemplated "what if" scenarios had Germany had 1-2 years more time to develop v-weapons or apply them correctly as was the case for the me-262.

Wow.

Some of you should spend more time cramming ecstasy up your asses and less time posting about modern politics and American history.

Oh, and Rodrico... You and VividBoy need to form a club.

I just saw the whole video via ConsumptionJunction and it was brutal.

Nicholas stopped screaming at the 3rd saw.

My stomach's still churning...those who haven't watched it, don't bother...

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Originally posted by Fire999 I just saw the whole video via ConsumptionJunction and it was brutal. Nicholas stopped screaming at the 3rd saw. My stomach's still churning...those who haven't watched it, don't bother...

He stopped screaming because blood was pouring out of the gaping hole in his throat.

I like how Europeans bitch to no fucking end when one of theirs dies, and talk shit like none other when an American dies.

In brief words what my teacher was explaining to me in class today regarding the situation, kind of an interesting point:

"He was explaining today why the Iraqi's are so messed in the head. He was saying how they have sex within their own family including their mothers, sisters, brothers, and whoever else you can come up with for hundreds of years, just to keep family wealth.

Which reportedly is causing defects in DNA which overtime has had the effect of messing up the whole damn population. Which is why they are so mentally stuck in their own little world of ALLAH and go and do everything by ALLAH this ALLAH that. Theyve basically turned themselves into animals, no human in the right mind would kill an innocent man in such a manner. There is a reason for them not being able to compete with us, their just mentally not capable. And all the screwing of family members over such a long period of times has taken its toll, and is going to take another 500 years to even straighten it out."

Summary of what he stated, anyone think this can be partially true?

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Originally posted by midaV Summary of what he stated, anyone think this can be partially true?

No.

And where does he teach? It's very troubling that you'd be hearing something like that.

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Originally posted by wwu.punisher Wow. Some of you should spend more time cramming ecstasy up your asses and less time posting about modern politics and American history. Oh, and Rodrico... You and VividBoy need to form a club.

I don't even know if thats a response worthy of my rebuttal. Oh wait something came to mind, Shut up, and actually we are joining a club, the boy scouts of America.

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Originally posted by midaV In brief words what my teacher was explaining to me in class today regarding the situation, kind of an interesting point: "He was explaining today why the Iraqi's are so messed in the head. He was saying how they have sex within their own family including their mothers, sisters, brothers, and whoever else you can come up with for hundreds of years, just to keep family wealth. Which reportedly is causing defects in DNA which overtime has had the effect of messing up the whole damn population. Which is why they are so mentally stuck in their own little world of ALLAH and go and do everything by ALLAH this ALLAH that. Theyve basically turned themselves into animals, no human in the right mind would kill an innocent man in such a manner. There is a reason for them not being able to compete with us, their just mentally not capable. And all the screwing of family members over such a long period of times has taken its toll, and is going to take another 500 years to even straighten it out." Summary of what he stated, anyone think this can be partially true?

If he taught you this, I would hope you ignored what he said, because this is the biggest piece of racist stupidity I've ever heard. This is something I expect Idiot-boy (Punisher) to say, what teacher is he, and where does he teach? I hope its not at a college level.

u know whats funny about this whole thread?

none of you can do shit to stop whats happening in the world right now...

go vote or something.

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