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Sid i'll be moving to New Zealand with you

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Originally posted by pinkhelmet oi! us north shore ppl work hard to pay uni fees too, its not like the cash grows on trees here! so blahh to that comment! goooo johnny go!

well we'll all be working an extra 25% harder with this result

I don't like the way the Senate is heading..

likely majority in the Senate next year Now they are going to be able to do anything they want.

The most disappointing thing is the way Australian society is changing. We used to be a caring society that looked after each other, 'mateship', 'fair go' and all that. Now we are turning into a 'me first' American style society.

If its wasnt clear before the election it is now. The labor party and its supporters have truly lost the plot and lost any confidence they had in the electorate. THey showed no vision, no direction and throughout the election campaign tried to divide the nation with their health and education policy. THe us poor guys vs teh rich guys. I got news for you latham. We are all the same.


Romp fuck you make me laugh... your own party was the one trying to divide society and it backfired.


One more thing...to the labor state governments, your honeymoon is over, this landslide is as much lathams fault as yours. I for one dont want tolls Bracks!

I for one at least know the next 4 years will be the safest its ever been and could possibly be

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Originally posted by Romp likely majority in the Senate next year Now they are going to be able to do anything they want. The most disappointing thing is the way Australian society is changing. We used to be a caring society that looked after each other, 'mateship', 'fair go' and all that. Now we are turning into a 'me first' American style society.

Pretty much sums it up.

This is why i think the Liberals won the election:

* Inexperience of Mark Latham as a leader - he will make a great PM one day, but many people didn't trust him enough to vote for him.

* The Liberal's 'scare campaign' over interest rates and the economy.

* People thinking with their wallet.

* Christian Democrats Party Preferences

* Stupidity of the Population (just kidding! well...not really.. )


P.S. Never get a job counting votes for the election! It sucks!!!

P.P.S.Edit. There were 1 million people marching against the War in Iraq in Sydney, and yet NSW remains as Howard's stronghold after this election. How the fuck does that work? Don't people care about social issues at all?

BTW i drank a beer to Kerrys face on ABC

FUCKEN PRICELESS.... ohhh how i love it when he gets so upset

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Originally posted by A.J. * Christian Democrats Party Preferences

This is stupid because the ALP got the Greens preferences, and there were a truckload more of those. Without them, Labor would have absolutely bombed out more than what they did.

I don;t understand why anyone would vote Greens in the House of Reps A vote for the Greens there is a vote for Labor. Kinda defeats the purpose of voting for someone other than Lib and ALP doesn't it?
ALthough a vote for anyone but Liberal is a good vote in the Senate. I voted Howard in HOR, but I'm quite disturbed at the Senate situation Not too good at all.

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Originally posted by A.J. P.P.S.Edit. There were 1 million people marching against the War in Iraq in Sydney, and yet NSW remains as Howard's stronghold after this election. How the fuck does that work? Don't people care about social issues at all?

LOL, i think you miss the point. How many people WERENT marching?

and the fact a large majority had no idea what they were marching for in the first place, it was the 'cool' thing to do , get a day off uni or tafe sweet as !!!!

the quicker people get it thru the head... this election had nothing to do with the WAR...it was about local issues and local policies... in which labor had NONE.

Thats where you are wrong Paulie, labor had local policies.


Everyone just realised they were shit, socially divisive, wouldn't work and cost WAY too much (Medicare Gold = blowout waiting to happen).

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter Thats where you are wrong Paulie, labor had local policies. Everyone just realised they were shit, socially divisive, wouldn't work and cost WAY too much (Medicare Gold = blowout waiting to happen).

HAHAH yeh, what you wrote up there were their policies but instead of embarassing labor boys on this forum i prefered to write they had none.


Watta pos that medicare gold was... must of been one of his drunken ideas, or wait was that all of them. What seriously screwed them was their socially divisive education policies. No one needs that, then we got guys telling us australia doesnt care anymore pfft... do some research boys.

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Originally posted by matt_a This is stupid because the ALP got the Greens preferences, and there were a truckload more of those. Without them, Labor would have absolutely bombed out more than what they did. I don;t understand why anyone would vote Greens in the House of Reps A vote for the Greens there is a vote for Labor. Kinda defeats the purpose of voting for someone other than Lib and ALP doesn't it? ALthough a vote for anyone but Liberal is a good vote in the Senate. I voted Howard in HOR, but I'm quite disturbed at the Senate situation Not too good at all.

You can preference who you want in the Lower House so really there is no reason NOT to vote Green if you agree with their policies. I put Green 1 and Labor 2, knew my preference would go to Labor but wanted to show my support for the Greens too. There are people who vote Green 1 and Liberal 2 as well.

I dont even really want the Greens to be in power but the fact that you know they arent going to win makes it all the more reason to vote for them as a protest vote, knowing that you are still going to be making a choice between the coalition and labor.

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Originally posted by Paulie HAHAH yeh, what you wrote up there were their policies but instead of embarassing labor boys on this forum i prefered to write they had none. Watta pos that medicare gold was... must of been one of his drunken ideas, or wait was that all of them. What seriously screwed them was their socially divisive education policies. No one needs that, then we got guys telling us australia doesnt care anymore pfft... do some research boys.

how is not wasting tax payer money on rich schools that dont need it socially divisive? I went to one of those schools and it shits me that our hard earned cash is going into the coffers of those schools who have millions and millions.

Latham had some good policies and some bad ones but really it didnt matter. Only thing that mattered was people went for the safe option, they care the most about the economy and interest rates and they believed the Liberals dishonest campaign on that issue.

1 down 1 to go.


Bracks time to go.


DOnt know what it was like in NSW and the reason for a swing to liberal, but Victoria has local issues that bracks has been avoiding and latham got screwed because of it.

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Originally posted by Paulie 1 down 1 to go. Bracks time to go. DOnt know what it was like in NSW and the reason for a swing to liberal, but Victoria has local issues that bracks has been avoiding and latham got screwed because of it.

Oh please, get Bob Carr out! He's bough a plot of land in NZ, for when he loses the next election. Hahaha. I don't even think the Libs in NSW are much better, but Carr's ministers are fkn twats! They've raped everything. Don't get me started on public transport

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Originally posted by matt_a Oh please, get Bob Carr out! He's bough a plot of land in NZ, for when he loses the next election. Hahaha. I don't even think the Libs in NSW are much better, but Carr's ministers are fkn twats! They've raped everything. Don't get me started on public transport

tell me bout it...cant stand carr! but then as u said i dont think the libs here r much better so we r fucked either way

but still was happy 2 see johnny win the election

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Originally posted by Paulie the quicker people get it thru the head... this election had nothing to do with the WAR...it was about local issues and local policies...

That was what i was venting about - the fact that many people only voted with their wallet in mind and they chose to ignore issues such as being lied to repeatedly by our head of state, Weapons of Mass Destruction (oh yeah, where are they?), the War In Iraq, the environment, etc. The credibility of our leaders is pretty important in my opinion and Howard has repeatedly duped the Australian people about important national issues. I think that the War In Iraq should have influenced the election, but many people have short memories and i seriously think that most people don't really give a shit, which really saddens me.

I concede that Howard won fair and square. He is a fantastic politician, and a master of wedge politics. He ran the better campaign and he won because of it. However, i don't think he is a good leader for our country.

As for your comment about labor having no policies, i don't really know what to say to that....have you been living in a hole for the past nine months??? Latham clearly outlined different policies for Health, Education, The Environment, The Economy, National Security/Terrorism as well as other key areas. You may or may not agree with them but they were definitely there and he provided an alternative to the liberals, unlike Beazley.

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Originally posted by matt_a Oh please, get Bob Carr out! He's bough a plot of land in NZ, for when he loses the next election. Hahaha. I don't even think the Libs in NSW are much better, but Carr's ministers are fkn twats! They've raped everything. Don't get me started on public transport

I totally agree, dude. Bob Carr has to go. He has been there for too long and there have been to many stuff-ups for us to tolerate. I am a strong Labor supporter generally but we need a change in NSW.

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Originally posted by Paulie I for one at least know the next 4 years will be the safest its ever been and could possibly be

here here..

from the result of this election it looks more than likely that i will head overseas to work the year after next, i dont want to work in the industry when its on the brink of collapse and destruction

geez u bloody nurses, always striking and complaining, and now u head off to overseas!!

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Originally posted by Paulie I for one at least know the next 4 years will be the safest its ever been and could possibly be

you guys sen this?

>> senior cards

EDIT: for those that missed it the site was hacked and a "F*CK HOWARD" message was left on the site

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Originally posted by Philby geez u bloody nurses, always striking and complaining, and now u head off to overseas!!

always striking i dont think so, u all seen the upraw when they did and yet wat did nurse's achieve from it a whole pay rise of $2 a week
Of course someone will head overseas to work under better conditions, its the logical thing to do.

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