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Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-28-2004 06:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
lol, you can keep comparing Bush to Hilter all you want, the are on 2 completely different spectrums.


They both rose to power with the help of masterful propagandists.

If you actually knew anything about history you would know that in the late 30's people loved Hitler and would defend his malicious intentions with great fervor.


Posted by Vlad on Oct-28-2004 06:39:

Who said I love Bush? lol. I just know he will do a much better job than Kerry. But hey, if you like to hope while getting taxes raised on you - then go ahead and vote for Kerry.


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-28-2004 06:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
I do enough reading to keep my mind satiated.

But please, induldge me.


Out of sheer kindness, I won't comment.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...p?s=&forumid=66


Posted by Vlad on Oct-28-2004 07:01:

Mostly everything in there comes from biast sources - especially since the majority of TA is liberal.


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-28-2004 07:28:

in case you get bored...

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Who said I love Bush? lol. I just know he will do a much better job than Kerry. But hey, if you like to hope while getting taxes raised on you - then go ahead and vote for Kerry.


Yeah, and like everything else, Bush has also done a bang up job on the economy!


http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=215211

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=201891

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=152402

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=204574

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=206307

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=153375

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=131931

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=139730

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=209084

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=147501

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=213415

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=208110

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=209036

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/c...03/cr071003.htm


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-28-2004 07:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Mostly everything in there comes from biast sources - especially since the majority of TA is liberal.


biased?


Posted by chrisxanthus on Oct-28-2004 12:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
lol, you can keep comparing Bush to Hilter all you want, the are on 2 completely different spectrums.


Let's see.

Bush was much like Hitler when he signed the R.A.V.E. Act into law. If you're not sure what this is go to www.protectlivemusic.org

Bush also likes to invade helpless countries for no reason.

Like I said before, I might have to move to Australia if Bush wins. I'm afraid of what he'll do and I don't want to be known around the world as someone who approved of what he was doing and re-elected him. Bush's actions are the main reason why the hatred of Americans is growing fast.


Posted by Wazup8012 on Oct-28-2004 16:19:

quote:
Originally posted by das_Mario
Seriously...posting anything about bumping off the president will get you special attention from Secret Service.

I'm not making this up....
Thanks. Yeah I know very stupid of me to write it too. I erased it. Just angry with him. He fucked up bad. Could be a hitman anyway. Too much killing.


Posted by Wazup8012 on Oct-28-2004 16:21:

quote:
Originally posted by chrisxanthus
Let's see.

Bush was much like Hitler when he signed the R.A.V.E. Act into law. If you're not sure what this is go to www.protectlivemusic.org

Bush also likes to invade helpless countries for no reason.

Like I said before, I might have to move to Australia if Bush wins. I'm afraid of what he'll do and I don't want to be known around the world as someone who approved of what he was doing and re-elected him. Bush's actions are the main reason why the hatred of Americans is growing fast.
WOW! I couldsn't have said it better myself.


Posted by DeRangedMind on Oct-28-2004 17:29:

http://www2.tranceaddict.com/forums...12&pagenumber=1

Look at the difference here


Posted by Miss Bliss on Oct-28-2004 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by chrisxanthus
Let's see.

Bush was much like Hitler when he signed the R.A.V.E. Act into law. If you're not sure what this is go to www.protectlivemusic.org

Bush also likes to invade helpless countries for no reason.

Like I said before, I might have to move to Australia if Bush wins. I'm afraid of what he'll do and I don't want to be known around the world as someone who approved of what he was doing and re-elected him. Bush's actions are the main reason why the hatred of Americans is growing fast.


You're comparing Bush to Hitler? Arguing the RAVE Act? *BARF* COME ON! Forget it. That's ridiculous. Everyone in the world is "like Hitler" because they let ethnic cleansing go on without stopping it (Balkans, Sudan)... my uncle is kinda like Hitler because he has a little moustache, too. For fucks saaaake!

Or are you joking? Please tell me you're joking.


Posted by chrisxanthus on Oct-28-2004 20:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Bliss
You're comparing Bush to Hitler? Arguing the RAVE Act? *BARF* COME ON! Forget it. That's ridiculous. Everyone in the world is "like Hitler" because they let ethnic cleansing go on without stopping it (Balkans, Sudan)... my uncle is kinda like Hitler because he has a little moustache, too. For fucks saaaake!

Or are you joking? Please tell me you're joking.


I was not the one who originally compared Bush to Hitler. I was simply jumping into the middle of an argument. I honestly don't think Bush is anywhere near how horrible of a person Hitler was.

I really just want all people who love music to realize that the rave act was signed into law by George Bush. After congess passed it, he signed it.
This law attacks anyone involved in the throwing or promotion of any kind of musical event.
This is law thanks to Mr. Bush.

Also, there are two other wonderful acts that are before congess right now that further take rights from musicans and event promoters. Under the Ecstacy Awareness Act and The Clean Up Act the promoters even the dj's can go to jail for 9 years and have a huge fine just because someone gets caught with something illegal. Why the artists have to pay? Why should the promoters?
I'm sure you know how George Bush will vote on these.

Again I was not the person who started the Hitler vs Bush thing, so don't attack me .
I don't like Bush, but I'm quite aware of how horrible Hitler was and I know it would be an understatement to say Bush is a much better person.

I am however afraid of what Bush might do, and an attack on your freedom of speech among other rights is a facsist and even a communist move. Now I guess it's an American move. I might have to move.

www.protectlivemusic.org


Posted by chrisxanthus on Oct-28-2004 20:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
It's not like it takes much to fool the masses...

Time Magazine's person of the year, 1938:
http://www.time.com/time/poy2000/archive/1938.html


Time Magazine's person of the year, 2000:
http://www.time.com/time/poy2000/mag/opener.html


This is where the whole thing started and it wasn't my post.
Just in case you didn't see where things started.
peace


Posted by Member of X on Oct-28-2004 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by chrisxanthus
Let's see.

Bush was much like Hitler when he signed the R.A.V.E. Act into law. If you're not sure what this is go to www.protectlivemusic.org

Bush also likes to invade helpless countries for no reason.

Like I said before, I might have to move to Australia if Bush wins. I'm afraid of what he'll do and I don't want to be known around the world as someone who approved of what he was doing and re-elected him. Bush's actions are the main reason why the hatred of Americans is growing fast.


I was about to post to this too because comparing Bush (a rather ignorant human being) to one of the most despicable human beings on the face of the planet is proposterous and degrading to the tens of millions of people who lost their lives under his reign.

I thought the comment was way out of line!! That's bad taste man.


Posted by chrisxanthus on Oct-28-2004 20:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Member of X
I was about to post to this too because comparing Bush (a rather ignorant human being) to one of the most despicable human beings on the face of the planet is proposterous and degrading to the tens of millions of people who lost their lives under his reign.

I thought the comment was way out of line!! That's bad taste man.


Apparently you didn't read what I just said. I was not the one who started this whole thing, I was just trying to make a point. I was jumping on one side of an argument and I never said the two where anywhere close.


Posted by chrisxanthus on Oct-28-2004 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
It's not like it takes much to fool the masses...

Time Magazine's person of the year, 1938:
http://www.time.com/time/poy2000/archive/1938.html


Time Magazine's person of the year, 2000:
http://www.time.com/time/poy2000/mag/opener.html


This was post number one by Trancer-X


Posted by chrisxanthus on Oct-28-2004 20:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
lol, you can keep comparing Bush to Hilter all you want, the are on 2 completely different spectrums.


Here was the first reply by Vlad


Posted by chrisxanthus on Oct-28-2004 20:38:

I jumped in the middle of an argument to make a point. If you honestly knew anything about me, I'm sure you wouldn't think I have bad taste, but thanks for the insult anyways.


Posted by DR86 on Oct-28-2004 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
lol, you can keep comparing Bush to Hilter all you want, the are on 2 completely different spectrums.


Actually no they aren't. If you want to look at the situation from a purely political point of view, they are closer than you think. Hitler was a fascist, the extreme right. Though Bush claims to be a compassionate conservative which would place him between moderate and conservative on the right side of the spectrum, he's policies actually equate him to being a Contemporary Neo-Conservative.
Basically the next step, albeit a big one, on the right side of the spectrum is fascism.


Posted by fr0st on Oct-28-2004 21:17:

Comparing bush to hitler just makes me think less of librals and how much of a joke they really are...... They have to compare our current president to one of the most horrific people of our times.... And the people who actually believe this propoganda should be kicked in the head .


Posted by beema on Oct-28-2004 21:46:

Comparing bush to hitler is overdoing it, despite his administration's totalitarian leanings. Besides, Hitler was way smarter than some chimp like Bush. (not that I condone Hitler in any way)


Posted by beema on Oct-28-2004 21:49:







Posted by DanAX on Oct-28-2004 22:08:

Kerry, doesn't look like I have any other choice except Bush


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-28-2004 23:26:

quote:
Originally posted by DR86
Actually no they aren't. If you want to look at the situation from a purely political point of view, they are closer than you think. Hitler was a fascist, the extreme right. Though Bush claims to be a compassionate conservative which would place him between moderate and conservative on the right side of the spectrum, he's policies actually equate him to being a Contemporary Neo-Conservative.
Basically the next step, albeit a big one, on the right side of the spectrum is fascism.


Yeah, that's just part of it.

I'd be willing to bet that most of the people on this board don't even know what a Neo-Con is, or at least if they do they don't know what principles they stand for.

Anyway, if anyone here even bothered to do more than just look at the pictures from those two Time Magazine links that I posted, they would have realized that during Hitlers first few years in power he was adored by the unsuspecting Germans.

quote:
Fuhrer of the German people, Commander-in-Chief of the German Army, Navy & Air Force, Chancellor of the Third Reich, Herr Hitler reaped on that day at Munich the harvest of an audacious, defiant, ruthless foreign policy he had pursued for five and a half years. He had torn the Treaty of Versailles to shreds. He had rearmed Germany to the teeth--or as close to the tooth as he was able. He had stolen Austria before the eyes of a horrified and apparently impotent world.


quote:
His political career began in 1919 when he became Member No. 7 of the midget German Labor Party. Discovering his powers of oratory, Hitler soon became the party's leader, changed its name to the National Socialist German Labor Party (...). Outlawed in many German districts, the National Socialist Party nevertheless climbed steadily in membership. Time-honored Tammany Hall methods of handing out many small favors were combined with rowdy terrorism and lurid, patriotic propaganda. The picture of a mystic, abstemious, charismatic Fuhrer was assiduously cultivated.


quote:
What Adolf Hitler & Co. did to the German people in that time left civilized men and women aghast. Civil rights and liberties have disappeared. Opposition to the Nazi regime has become tantamount to suicide or worse. Free speech and free assembly are anachronisms. The reputations of the once-vaunted German centres of learning have vanished. Education has been reduced to a National Socialist catechism.


Okay, so now we're seeing curtails of our civil liberties, [link], (Patriot Act), "Free Speech Zones" which limit free speech [link] at Republican organized events, an ever mounting National Debt while the richest people in America get tax cuts. I mean come on, this is only a small sampling of the things that have happened within the last four years under Bush and his Neo-Con buddies. Do you people really want to see what else they have in store for us if he gets reelected? I sure don't!


Posted by Stassi on Oct-29-2004 00:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra Commander
http://www2.tranceaddict.com/forums...12&pagenumber=1

Look at the difference here

too bad its not their country.


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