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| Originally posted by tu_face i think you will find that i do know shit from piss, how would you know either way? unlike the US of A, we have much less biased news covering many different sides. i am not disputing the fact that he was a terrorist. but the reason he was a terrorist in the first place was because no-one would listen to his people. why do you think he renounced terrorism and won a nobel peace prize? and please refrain from grouping people into 'cocksuckers', i don't suck cock thank you. |
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| Originally posted by AlphaStarred i wasn't referring to you, i meant people like Dave Piazza and trancevandyk...and i don't see why you had to close my thread out of frustration and as for 'cocksuckers' pardon me, i simply wanted to employ a blunt term...if it stirs your fancy i'll speak formally henceforth |
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| Originally posted by tu_face i didn't close your thread out of frustration, i closed your thread because it is against the rules to post threads about tits. it just happened to be the next thing i looked at after this thread. i dont moderate like that, and never will. |
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| Originally posted by AlphaStarred fair enough m8...you gotta admit you liked that pic tho |
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| Originally posted by tu_face are you completely ignorant of the entire argument which is happenening in the middle east?? as far as a muslim is concerned, allah did not tell the jews that the area which we now call israel was their promised land, which is mainly why they are shitting all over each other and have been for centuries. or did you not know that? |
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| Originally posted by AlphaStarred i wasn't referring to you, i meant people like Dave Piazza and trancevandyk...and i don't see why you had to close my thread out of frustration and as for 'cocksuckers' pardon me, i simply wanted to employ a blunt term...if it stirs your fancy i'll speak formally henceforth |
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| Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: and i keep telling you, the god of jesus is not the same god of mohammed. how can one god tell you two completely contradictory things at the same time?? because they are not the same god. |
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| Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: the land of canaan, (israel) was the promised land that god promised the israelites coming out of egypt. so the land is theirs, period. and it will always be. |
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| Originally posted by tu_face i know. i refer to my original quote, as i think you have lost what i was trying to say: unless of course you are a muslim, in which case god didn't tell the jews anything of the sort, hence the argument. please, read what i write before quoting me |
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| Originally posted by {b.s.e.} second only to "America" and "God" get off your soapbox, that man did ten thousand times the amount for people than you could ever hope to think about doing in your life. |
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| Originally posted by Dave Piazza FYI: Guess what country has the most UN violations? Not Iraq. But our persecuted friend Israel .  |
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| Originally posted by CynepMeH That's because UN is full of antisemitic biggots, just like you. US is the only country that seems to be understand that. Oh, I'm sorry - you didn't want to be classified as antisemite. Whoops, sorry I blew your cover. But I'm sure that you're going to convince me that you're not a Jew hater, and as a matter of fact you have quite a few Jewish friends, and even helped a Jew or something like that - you know, the standard response I hear from closet-case antisemites. C'mon, don't be afraid to stand up for what you believe in! Grab a gun, put on your white sheets and head out to fight for Palestinian cause. Don't just sit there... do something about it. Go out, kill a Jew or two, make this world a better place! That's what you really want, isn't it? C'mon, don't be shy - there are plenty of supporters of your school of thought here. Time to mingle! Or better yet, light up some torches, grab some gasoline soaked-crosses and dust off those KKK regalia. March on Christian soldiers! March on! fucking tossers.... |
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King If the Natives came with GUNS and terrorist groups in the thousands and with the help of the UN was granted 56% of the United states, for a NATIVE INDIAN POPULATED NATION only, eventhough they were the minority.. im sure YOU WOULD NOT APPRECIATE THIS!!!! |
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| Originally posted by CynepMeH Cyrus - did I ever tell you you're my favorite muppet? I suppose Can-o-duh was established on a patch of land not occupied by those pesky natives. Oh, shoot... I forgot, it's ok to bash America - they are the ones who killed them Injuns... We Canadians, were invited here by the local tribes... So them and us are really tight an' all, we just chillin' wit' da natives. Cyrus, where are your ancestors from? I'm curious, coz' you should go back there - since you have such a problem with people occupying other people's territory and taking their land. You should do your part - give up your belongings to the nearest natives - they should not be too difficult to find (hint: try a Reservation). |
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| Originally posted by CynepMeH That's because UN is full of antisemitic biggots, just like you. US is the only country that seems to be understand that. |
ok...
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| Originally posted by tu_face ok... so, let me get this straight, the whole world is antisemitic? are you sure it isn't just the whole world being sick and tired of the israeli government not doing what they have been asked to do by the UN? surely not... that would be logical. |
Parting note: Arafat's "Legacy"
Here are some of Arafat's "accomplishments"... Great Legacy to support:
Yasser Arafat, considered the founder of the modern-day terrorism, began a wave of murder against Jewish targets around the world shortly after taking control of the PLO in 1968-9. For example:
Among the murderous exploits he inspired were the following:
* the Savoy Hotel attack of March 1975, in which seven hostages and two soldiers were killed after Fatah terrorists landed on the beach and seized the hotel.
* the Maalot massacre in May 1974 in which a school building was taken over while children from Tzfat on a school trip were sleeping there. Three teachers and 22 schoolchildren were killed.
* the Munich Olympics slaughter, in which eleven Israeli athletes were killed in September 1972.
* the Nahariya/Avivim school bus attack, May 1970. Palestinian terrorists crossed the border from Lebanon, ambushed the bus with a barrage of gunfire, and murdered 12 children and 3 adults, and left several others crippled.
* the Lod Airport Massacre, May 1972, carried out by three Japanese Red Army terrorists in an operation planned and supported by PLO faction PFLP-GC, killing 26 and wounding 78.
* the Kiryat Shmonah apartment building attack in April 1974: PFLP-GC terrorists penetrated the Israeli border town, entered an apartment building on Yehuda HaLevy St. and killed all 18 residents they found there, including 9 children.
Yasser Arafat - the founder of the modern-day terrorism
* the Coastal Road bus hijacking of March 1978, in which 11 Fatah terrorists ,who infiltrated by sea, killed a photographer and a taxi driver and hijacked a bus filled with adults and many children. The terrorists fired on passing cars from the bus, and when they were finally stopped, they began firing missiles. The massacre left 35 people dead and 100 injured.
* the brutal murder of three U.S. diplomats held hostage in Khartoum, Sudan, in March 1973. The terrorists demanded the release of Sirhan Sirhan, the Palestinian assassin of Robert F. Kennedy. Arafat was recorded as having given the execution orders.
* the Achille Lauro hijacking of a cruise ship in October 1985, in which wheelchair-bound Leon Klinghoffer, 69, was shot and thrown overboard into the ocean. Israeli intelligence later showed that the terrorists had been in contact, via the ship's radio telephone, with a PLF coordinator in Genoa, who in turn was in touch with PLO headquarters in Tunis for final instructions.
Arafat was famous for denying responsibility for the terrorism committed by his underlings. Ion Mihai Pacepa, a former Romanian intelligence official who defected to the West after working closely with Arafat, writes that Romanian dictator Ceausescu advised him how to do this:
"In the shadow of your government-in-exile, you can keep as many operational groups as you want, as long as they are not publicly connected with your name. They could mount endless operations all around the world, while your name and your 'government' would remain pristine and unspoiled, ready for negotiations and further recognition."
Describing Arafat in his memoirs, Pacepa writes that Arafat represented "an incredible account of fanaticism ... of tangled oriental political maneuvers, of lies, of embezzled PLO funds deposited in Swiss banks, and of homosexual relationships, beginning with his teacher when he was a teenager and ending with his current bodyguards. After reading that report, I felt a compulsion to take a shower whenever I had been kissed by Arafat, or even just shaken his hand."
Internationally, in 1972 alone, PLO groups blew up a West German electricity plant, a Dutch gas plant and an oil refinery in Trieste, Italy. In 1975, the presence of Arafat and his 15,000-strong army in Lebanon triggered a bloody civil war that raged on for nearly two decades, costing 40,000 lives.
Arafat was banished from Jordan to Lebanon in 1970 in the course of a violent war against the PLO by King Hussein, and from Lebanon to Tunis in 1982 following the Peace for Galilee War. He orchestrated the first "intifada," beginning in 1987, from Tunis, though it had supposedly started spontaneously.
In 1994, following the Oslo Accords, Arafat was allowed to enter Judea, Samaria and Gaza. Israel essentially forbade him from leaving Ramallah for the last three years of his life. Palestinian terrorists, funded and encouraged by the "statesman" Arafat, have murdered over 1,300 Israelis since the signing of the Oslo Agreement.
and why does the UN condemn israels actions??????? BECAUSE THE ACTIONS ARE WRONG. just because the UN condemns actions by a country doesn't make them racist towards that country. using that theory you could brand the UN as anti-asian, anti-american, anti-british, anti-korean etc etc etc.
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| Originally posted by CynepMeH Think about this for a second - why none of middleeastern countries, such as Jordan, Sudan, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, or any UAE countries help the Palestinian cause? Every one of these countries made it a point not to allow Palestinians to settle... why? |
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| How come you don't see Gypsies blowing shit up in Romania, claiming it to be their land? |
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| Oh, another point - when was the last time Israeli ventured into a crowded market and blew it up with explosives full of shrapnell? |
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| Originally posted by tu_face and you seem to be forgetting the terrorism BY JEWS that pushed israels borders out beyond those which were set by the US and britain. |
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| Originally posted by Dave Piazza Israelis were the first group of people to use today�s modern methods of terrorism. It worked to expel the Brits and the Americans. Isn't it ironic that now the Palestine people are using the same form of terrorism against the Jews to expel them from their lands? Just something for you Zionists to think about. Again the Israelis are not some innocent people being terrorized by Palestine people. Israel has done their fair share to create this mess also. It�s about time people start analyzing the problem critically and not opting out of this discussion because they fear to be labeled anti-Semitic. |
more food for thought
* by Jeff Jacoby, Boston Globe:
"In a better world, the PLO chief would have met his end on a gallows, hanged for mass murder much as the Nazi chiefs were hanged at Nuremberg. In a better world, the French president would not have paid a visit to the bedside of such a monster. In a better world, George Bush would not have said, on hearing the first reports that Arafat had died, 'G-d bless his soul.'
"...Arafat always inspired flights of nonsense from Western journalists, and his last two weeks were no exception.
"Derek Brown wrote in The Guardian that Arafat's 'undisputed courage as a guerrilla leader' was exceeded only 'by his extraordinary courage' as a peace negotiator. But it is an odd kind of courage that expresses itself in shooting unarmed victims -- or in signing peace accords and then flagrantly violating their terms.
"Another commentator, columnist Gwynne Dyer, asked, 'So what did Arafat do right?' The answer: He drew worldwide attention to the Palestinian cause, 'for the most part by successful acts of terror.' In other words, butchering innocent human beings was "right" since it served an ulterior political motive. No doubt that thought brings daily comfort to all those who were forced to bury a child, parent, or spouse because of Arafat's 'successful' terrorism...
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| Originally posted by CynepMeH Again, what are you doing for the cause you believe in other than sit her and mouth off? So, are you just gonna bark, little doggie, or are you going to bite? |
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| Originally posted by Dave Piazza First Learn how to spell. Second. I am doing my best to inform people on issues either through web boards or conversation in a classroom. I hope to encourage dialogue. This is the best I can do. Hopefully as more and more people get educated about the subject and exchange ideas we can finally create a well-throughout peace plan. |
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| Originally posted by CynepMeH Dave dave dav.... Such a shame that such a biggot is carrying one of the greatest Jewish names. A true testament to the irony that is your first name and your point of view. |
No Dave, you're wrong. I don't hate Palestinians... They are poor people in all meanings of the word. Their leader, Arafat, was not looking out for their interest. You see, compromise works like this:
Side A gives up something and Side B gives up something. Not, side A surrenders everything and Side B takes over.
Arafat believed in "all or nothing" approach - State of Israel did not exist in his vision of Palestine. All jews are driven into the sea or burried. That was his vision. So, you check your history, nimrod.
Here, more food from zionist media for your consumption:
Excerpts from reports about Arafat on the internet:
* by Prof. Alan Dershowitz, Jerusalem Post:
"Yasser Arafat was the godfather of international terrorism who dashed his people's hope for statehood, stole billions of dollars intended for the relief of their suffering, and indoctrinated their children with so much hatred that they willingly turned themselves into human bombs.
"He did manage to leapfrog the Palestinian cause over equally or more deserving causes... by wielding three immoral weapons: first, international terrorism on a scale previously unknown to the world; second, an alliance with oil-rich states willing to extort support for his cause by energy blackmail; and third, exploitation of international anti-Semitism against the Jewish state.
"...Never a man to tolerate dissent, he employed bullets rather than arguments to respond to his critics.
"Arafat was the inspiration for Osama bin Laden, because he proved to his eager student that terrorism works and that terrorists can be praised and rewarded by a craven world...
"The Nobel Peace Prize was cheapened by being awarded to this hater of peace. The Vatican was tarnished by its frequent welcoming of a man who violated every teaching of the Church. The United Nations was trivialized by its lionization of this coward. And terrorism was encouraged by the rewards Arafat received for his murders..."
* A short film by HonestReporting.Com:
"Under Arafat's leadership, the PLO innovated hostage taking, airplane hijacking, school massacres, and suicide bombings. Arafat stole billions of international aid money designated for Palestinians, depositing it in secret bank accounts.
"Don't let the media spin him as a Hero, Champion, and Freedom Fighter."
A special report on Arafat's terrorist legacy, by HonestReporting.Com, concludes by stating:
"Yet beyond the terrorism, extortion, embezzlement and intimidation lies Arafat's most unfortunate ongoing impact: The inculcation of murderous values in an entire generation of Palestinians, who have been educated - under Arafat's direction - to continue the fight of jihad against Israel, rather than compromise to end the decades-long conflict."
"How many generations will it take to undo Arafat's dark legacy?"
I like it when people who don't leave here talk all day.
I wanna see you live here,so shut up!
I don't agree with everything that we are doing but we are trying our best.
There was no chances for peace with arafat period,the man made so much money from his authority and he was a terorist himself that support and funded groups.
He was the one who said no at camp david.
So what do you want us to do when they attack us? huh? like you have done better?
What do you think england did in africa?
Don't try to be samaritans...
Do you think I'm happy being in the army now? do you think nobody wants peace?
Do you think its so easy? if it was easy then arafat would have said yes in camp david but they just want to get the whole land and you can't just tell us to leave...how would u feel if your country told you that you no longer can live in your house and you must leave?
Stop being hypos, kthxbye
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