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Originally posted by LazarusDJ Prog mostly annoys the hell out of me because its bland and pointless and gives many arrogant people the impression that they're intelligent.

Ah, I see we have another victim of the ASOT/GDJB watered-down progressive crap. It's no wonder people think progressive sucks when you consider these radio shows. Thank god both shows fell on their asses over the last month or so. Before you proclaim progressive to be "pointless", try discovering some quality tracks and producers. I think maybe then you'd be inclined to change your mind. What an ignorant statement, especially the arrogant comment.

Cheese, techno, happy hardcore.

I dont really hate any electronic genre, but the one i dislike is the "noise genre"...

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Originally posted by DJ Intrigue Ah, I see we have another victim of the ASOT/GDJB watered-down progressive crap. It's no wonder people think progressive sucks when you consider these radio shows. Thank god both shows fell on their asses over the last month or so. Before you proclaim progressive to be "pointless", try discovering some quality tracks and producers. I think maybe then you'd be inclined to change your mind. What an ignorant statement, especially the arrogant comment.

I used to listen to alot of prog (Digweed, Sasha, Cattaneo, to name some DJs), and I can't say that most of the recent stuff is any more inventive than GDJB/ASOT prog. Holden is pretty creative, but I think he's starting to recycle his own sound too.

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Originally posted by Ory I used to listen to alot of prog (Digweed, Sasha, Cattaneo, to name some DJs), and I can't say that most of the recent stuff is any more inventive than GDJB/ASOT prog. Holden is pretty creative, but I think he's starting to recycle his own sound too.

I dunno man, listen to Sultan and The Greek. Their shit is crazy. Prog House at its best. Also, Rouzbeh Delavari he swings to the prog side too. Good stuff.

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Originally posted by mto I dunno man, listen to Sultan and The Greek. Their shit is crazy. Prog House at its best. Also, Rouzbeh Delavari he swings to the prog side too. Good stuff.

I'm not very familiar with them, but then I mostly listen to livesets and usually don't bother checking the tracklisting.

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Originally posted by Ory I'm not very familiar with them, but then I mostly listen to livesets and usually don't bother checking the tracklisting.

+1 kaka

i never ook for t/ls onyl if i want to find a trck i like.

they ay i see tit is if you go to a club u aint gonna kow th et/l, therefore showing the tracks you reallly like and the ones you think are danceable.

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Originally posted by Ory I used to listen to alot of prog (Digweed, Sasha, Cattaneo, to name some DJs), and I can't say that most of the recent stuff is any more inventive than GDJB/ASOT prog. Holden is pretty creative, but I think he's starting to recycle his own sound too.

I do agree with you on that, but what I really was referring to was the progressive sound between 1998-1999ish through about mid-2003. Those years contained some of the best progressive house/trance releases, IMO and it seems like people tend to ignore these years and focus constantly on the recent prog scene, which really pisses me off when people dismiss prog as boring and bland because most likely they haven't heard many of the tracks I've listened to within the above years.

Aside from the McProg ASOT/GDJB tunes, like you, I haven't been all that much impressed with the other progressive releases as of lately. On the contrary, I've found that John Digweed's Kiss100 radio show is the place to look (at least for me) for quality progressive at the moment. Many of the tunes played by Digger's and the guest dj's are decent and worth hearing.

I see what you mean then, and I agree.

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Originally posted by DJ Intrigue I do agree with you on that, but what I really was referring to was the progressive sound between 1998-1999ish through about mid-2003. Those years contained some of the best progressive house/trance releases, IMO and it seems like people tend to ignore these years and focus constantly on the recent prog scene, which really pisses me off when people dismiss prog as boring and bland because most likely they haven't heard many of the tracks I've listened to within the above years. Aside from the McProg ASOT/GDJB tunes, like you, I haven't been all that much impressed with the other progressive releases as of lately. On the contrary, I've found that John Digweed's Kiss100 radio show is the place to look (at least for me) for quality progressive at the moment. Many of the tunes played by Digger's and the guest dj's are decent and worth hearing.

Well the Twilo era was golden. When Twilo went to ashes, its sound went to ashes. I think the only proggy Twilo-like tune now days is Cabala - Vision of U (Nick Muir Mix). I think Cobalt talked about this issue in one of the threads. I have to say i agree with him.

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Originally posted by nss I could never get into progessive

Neither could I. And I like even happy hardcore, garage, power noise and speedcore

Wow...

ben a while scince scince I've seen an intelligent convo in TA...

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Originally posted by Abhay Wow... ben a while scince scince I've seen an intelligent convo in TA...

+1

I always start my sets with progressive trance/house, then it I play upliftting in the middle of the session,and finishing off with hard trance.

I personally can't play progressive all the way of my set, cos there always needs a drive to get the crowd moving .

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Originally posted by DJ Intrigue Ah, I see we have another victim of the ASOT/GDJB watered-down progressive crap. It's no wonder people think progressive sucks when you consider these radio shows.

Never listened to either of them as it happens. And you've just demonstrated my point about how prog-fans automatically feel superior to everybody simply because of their chosen genre.

I have trouble appreciating that kind of noisy harsh skinny puppy style.

I also can't stand the stuff with the breaking glass, nails on chalkboard, clanging and wailing stuff like this 'Dissecting Table' musician makes.

And the styles that are dominated by a sleepy bass lines and dull uninventive percussion, not DnB, not Prog, but that dull dark bassy dirty stuff, the boring kind.

I'm not sure what to call these genres, but they are definately very widely established styles of music that I don't enjoy very much.

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 And the styles that are dominated by a sleepy bass lines and dull uninventive percussion, not DnB, not Prog, but that dull dark bassy dirty stuff, the boring kind.

can you be alluding to Dub?

disco house... ewwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeee

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Originally posted by LazarusDJ Never listened to either of them as it happens. And you've just demonstrated my point about how prog-fans automatically feel superior to everybody simply because of their chosen genre.

Ok, then my apologies. BUT, your initial post came across as very ignorant to progressive when you called it pointless. It seemed like you didn't understand what progressive was all about (and you still may not, I don't know) and only formed that opinion based off of the current prog drivel by ASOT/GDJB, which unfortunately, many members on this board take. If progressive is not your thing, fine. Trance is not my thing. BUT, at least try to provide some reasons instead of making blatent assumptions on a whole genre's "arrogant listeners" and that music being pointless. It makes you seem uninformed and very easy to dismiss the some of the best progressive tracks (ie: 1998-2003) because of preconceived opinions based on some of the bog-bog or current mcprog you heard. Like I said, it just pisses me off when people shit all over progressive when they haven't heard some of the tracks I have. You may just simply not like progressive, but please, don't label all prog listeners as the close-minded "hate-everything-else" elitists you make them out to be.

Doesn't everyone feel superior to everyone else when listening to music? I mean, if you listen to a certain type of music and feel very passionately about it, don't you generally tend to regard it highly and feel your music is far greater than other genres simply because of how much emotion/feeling/passion you get from it. At least that's how I think, considering music is my life, and it has been since I picked up the saxophone in 6th grade. However, I'm not like certain members on this board and try to explain myself instead of slating something just for shits and giggles in every thread. So, do I feel superior? Yes in a way. Am I the so-called "arrogant prog-head" you refer to? Not really.

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred can you be alluding to Dub?

some dub, but that wasnt really what I was meaning.

Its that particularly boring variety of prog, I figured if people could create a genre out of music they dont like and call it dutch trance, I can pick out the flavor of prog I dont like and call it boring prog, that would be the genre I dont like the most, and it is by definition boring, just like dutch is by definition pompous.

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